When Christians do Satan's Work

[CoreIssue]

There must be a million versions of historical correctness

That is why one has to be very careful.

The best thing to do is to find somewhere that deals with subjects in a non-biased and non-agenda way.

 

[marks]

Scary thought so many standing on what they’ve been taught by men! Foolish pride refusing to say I was wrong. Been there.

Best thing for me is if I'm wrong, figure it out quick! So I can be right!

Much love!

 

[marks]

That is why one has to be very careful.

The best thing to do is to find somewhere that deals with subjects in a non-biased and non-agenda way.

Like here!!

 

[Waiting on him]

That is why one has to be very careful.

The best thing to do is to find somewhere that deals with subjects in a non-biased and non-agenda way.

Is there such a place, and don’t say duckduck.

 

[marks]

Is there such a place, and don’t say duckduck.

Goose!

 

[Waiting on him]

Goose!

Lol!

 

[Waiting on him]

Just playing CI

 

[Jane_Doe22]

This is the part that concerns me more. Our own lenses. Our own theologies that we are married to, that we will always interpret Scripture according to.

An example for me, not to sidetrack the thread, would be the pre-trib rapture view that the 7 seals are absolutely no question about it part of the 'Tribulation'. I hear this all the time from those who think that way, but I fail to see the support in Scripture.

I used to think that way, but only because I was taught that way. Teaching - there's another lens!

Now I don't think that way any longer, since I don't see the support in the text. Now. Can we willing abandon cherished notions that we come to see have no support in Scripture?

If so, we show we are subject to the Bible, willing to accept whatever we believe it to be saying, EVEN IF it means showing myself a fool for having thought something so ridiculous, but now am willing to change.

Can we not realize the words in Ephesians 4 and reach a unity of faith and knowledge of Christ?

Much love!
Mark

There's actually several equations here:
1) Can we separate out these lens?
2) Should we seperate out these lens?
3) Is a person willing to separate out these lens?

The answer to each of those questions varies person to person. Honestly, as an inter-faith nerd, I spend a lot of time studying the lens people use (whether they do so consciously or not). And I.... frankly I find that many people cling to their lens (particularly the lens of their personal tradition) with a great amount of personal pride and fear of the "other".

 

[Waiting on him]

There's actually several equations here:
1) Can we separate out these lens?
2) Should we seperate out these lens?
3) Is a person willing to separate out these lens?

The answer to each of those questions varies person to person. Honestly, as an inter-faith nerd, I spend a lot of time studying the lens people use (whether they do so consciously or not). And I.... frankly I find that many people cling to their lens (particularly the lens of their personal tradition) with a great amount of personal pride and fear of the "other".

Not saying there isn’t, but there should be no vail.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Not saying there isn’t, but there should be no vail.

"Vail" and "lens" have to very different connotations. Was "vail" the word you wanted to use here?

 

[CoreIssue]

Is there such a place, and don’t say duckduck.

Well, you cannot escape using search engines.

But you can avoid the biased liberal ones, such as Google, Bing and Twitter, just to mention a few. The censor, alter and give false results. Very much in the liberal non-Christian pockets.

DuckDuckGo is one of the best. There's also Startpage.

 

[Waiting on him]

"Vail" and "lens" have to very different connotations. Was "vail" the word you wanted to use here?

I equate them to be the same

 

[CoreIssue]

Lol!

Better than Moose.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I equate them to be the same

Thank you for clarifying your definition.

 

[CoreIssue]

I equate them to be the same

A lens colors or alters the size of something.

A Vail hides things.

 

[Waiting on him]

A lens colors or alters the size of something.

A Vail hides things.

Both change perspective

 

[CoreIssue]

Both change perspective

Actually one changes perspective and one hide something.

 

[Waiting on him]

Actually one changes perspective and one hide something.

I we could see all that’s hidden would our perspective change?

 

[CoreIssue]

I we could see all that’s hidden would our perspective change?

Did when the veil in the sanctuary was at the crucifixion.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I we could see all that’s hidden would our perspective change?

Speaking my thoughts: while in the mortal life, there's always going to be a vail (aka things we just don't know) and you're always going to be looking through a lens (which does focus/alter perspectives). These are two unavoidable facts. The best thing any of us can do is to conscious of that, and humble enough to accept the Spirit's guidance & growth throughout our lives, rather than fearfully/pridefully clinging to those imperfect lens.