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Okay so, I looked and looked for where to post this picture and question, but I couldn't find any current events type sub forum, so I finally just slapped it down here. Sorry.

I'm giving this link for the purposes of the still picture of the Russian and American ships. I want to know WHICH is the American ship. Can anyone tell? Does anyone know?

I ask because it looks to me (from the wake behind it) as if the left ship has purposely veered toward the one on the right...the video just confused me more. Or maybe I could be seeing...not a veering toward but rather a throttle down and sharp turn to avoid an accident...? I'm just really confused and know nothing about how a ship works. Just want to know, in the still pic, am I correctly thinking the left side ship is...the American one?
www.foxnews.com/world/us-russian-warships-almost-collide
 

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The U.S. ship is the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Chancellorsville. The ship captured in the video is a Russian "Udaloy Class Anti-Submarine Warfare Destroyer", ship number 572, commissioned in 1988.


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The risk of this encounter is that apparently the ship slightly behind another ship will be "sucked" toward the stern of the forward ship due to the propeller wash, causing a collision.


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Okay so, I looked and looked for where to post this picture and question, but I couldn't find any current events type sub forum, so I finally just slapped it down here. Sorry.

I'm giving this link for the purposes of the still picture of the Russian and American ships. I want to know WHICH is the American ship. Can anyone tell? Does anyone know?

I ask because it looks to me (from the wake behind it) as if the left ship has purposely veered toward the one on the right...the video just confused me more. Or maybe I could be seeing...not a veering toward but rather a throttle down and sharp turn to avoid an accident...? I'm just really confused and know nothing about how a ship works. Just want to know, in the still pic, am I correctly thinking the left side ship is...the American one?
www.foxnews.com/world/us-russian-warships-almost-collide

One thing for sure, it is a deadly game either one or both are playing. Russia and U.S played the cat and mouse games during the cold war quite often. It only takes one bad day, one captain with a fuse, one misunderstanding of an intent or an order and the whole thing goes to hell.

I hope both sides have read the book, "The Bedford Incident".

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That's funny because when I posted this thread, my first thought was: I bet Willie will come explain it to me.

But no, that video doesn't clear it up. Its the same video I saw. I just see 2 ships getting ready to collide and both look like they are headed forward and wound up almost colliding. I would think they could have both participated to avoid each other and not cut it so close...
 

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I mean, I know the American ship says the Russian ship did an unsafe and risky maneuver but I can't see that part I guess.
 

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I think we need to pray nothing comes from this, because getting in a fight with Russia is a bad idea. It would mean bad news for the United States...
 
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That's funny because when I posted this thread, my first thought was: I bet Willie will come explain it to me.

But no, that video doesn't clear it up. Its the same video I saw. I just see 2 ships getting ready to collide and both look like they are headed forward and wound up almost colliding. I would think they could have both participated to avoid each other and not cut it so close...
This can be compared to an ambulance traveling down the hiway, carrying a seriously injured person. The ambulance would put the patient in danger by swerving for any reason, right? Thus, they have their lights on, just like the American ship had flags raised that told everyone they were in aircraft receiving mode, and had to maintain a steady course and speed so as not to endanger the helicopter they were recovering.

The Russian ship decided to play a game, and see how close they could come since they already knew the American ship would have to stay on their steady course.

This is akin to a reckless teen coming up behind an ambulance and darting around it, skinning as close to hitting the ambulance as he could before passing two feet away...… all on a slippery wet road.
 
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I think we need to pray nothing comes from this, because getting in a fight with Russia is a bad idea. It would mean bad news for the United States...

Ummmmmm, I don't think your prayer will be answered as you ask. There's a far DIFFERENT future for the world, and certain events will propel us with or without our good wishes:

Dan. 11:40 “At the time of the end the king of the south [the U.S. and her allies] shall thrust at him [?Russia/Iran?]; but the king of the north [Russia] shall rush upon him like a whirlwind, with chariots and horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall come into countries and shall overflow and pass through. 41 He shall come into the glorious land. And tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites. 42 He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt; and the Libyans and the Ethiopians [ancient "Ethiopia" included SUDAN] shall follow in his train.


I'm expecting events to overtake us this summer, but we'll have to wait a see ...

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This can be compared to an ambulance traveling down the hiway, carrying a seriously injured person. The ambulance would put the patient in danger by swerving for any reason, right? Thus, they have their lights on, just like the American ship had flags raised that told everyone they were in aircraft receiving mode, and had to maintain a steady course and speed so as not to endanger the helicopter they were recovering.

The Russian ship decided to play a game, and see how close they could come since they already knew the American ship would have to stay on their steady course.

This is akin to a reckless teen coming up behind an ambulance and darting around it, skinning as close to hitting the ambulance as he could before passing two feet away...… all on a slippery wet road.

Oh, see, I hadn't heard ANY of that. In not at home where I can click on a tv and was just not finding that info online. Thanks willie
 
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Yeh...I am pretty sure I had a dream of this event last night. I did not see this until after I was writing about it this morning. If not CRAZY resemblance...
 

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Doesn't it???

There was water. I was sitting in it and I was watching a missile moving slowly across the water with a man following it. He told someone not to touch it. He almost did anyway. Then it switched to someone who just bought a "new" house. She was ecstatic about it, but it was falling apart and looked like it was unlivable.
 
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Doesn't it???

There was water. I was sitting in it and I was watching a missile moving slowly across the water with a man following it. He told someone not to touch it. He almost did anyway. Then it switched to someone who just bought a "new" house. She was ecstatic about it, but it was falling apart and looked like it was unlivable.
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Ummmmmm, I don't think your prayer will be answered as you ask. There's a far DIFFERENT future for the world, and certain events will propel us with or without our good wishes:

Dan. 11:40 “At the time of the end the king of the south [the U.S. and her allies] shall thrust at him [?Russia/Iran?]; but the king of the north [Russia] shall rush upon him like a whirlwind, with chariots and horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall come into countries and shall overflow and pass through. 41 He shall come into the glorious land. And tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites. 42 He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt; and the Libyans and the Ethiopians [ancient "Ethiopia" included SUDAN] shall follow in his train.


I'm expecting events to overtake us this summer, but we'll have to wait a see ...

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This can be compared to an ambulance traveling down the hiway, carrying a seriously injured person. The ambulance would put the patient in danger by swerving for any reason, right? Thus, they have their lights on, just like the American ship had flags raised that told everyone they were in aircraft receiving mode, and had to maintain a steady course and speed so as not to endanger the helicopter they were recovering.

The Russian ship decided to play a game, and see how close they could come since they already knew the American ship would have to stay on their steady course.

This is akin to a reckless teen coming up behind an ambulance and darting around it, skinning as close to hitting the ambulance as he could before passing two feet away...… all on a slippery wet road.

Thank you Willie.
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Doesn't it???

There was water. I was sitting in it and I was watching a missile moving slowly across the water with a man following it. He told someone not to touch it. He almost did anyway. Then it switched to someone who just bought a "new" house. She was ecstatic about it, but it was falling apart and looked like it was unlivable.


That reads to be 'right on'.

God knows all things...and we can stay 'tucked under His Wing.' :)
 

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Yes, we might have another war soon. But, when have we NOT been so engaged, somewhere? It is rare for us not to be in a conflict.

Yeah, you're right. It's just another war, like the war against poverty, the gang wars in our streets, the warring factions in politics. -- Nothing to be worried about!




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Apparently some would disregard the SIGNIFICANCE of Ezekiel 38 & 39 and Daniel 11:40-44 as though it were of no consequence. But I suppose when nuclear weapons are employed it will be of little significance to the world. In fact it might not even make the news ...

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Doesn't it???

There was water. I was sitting in it and I was watching a missile moving slowly across the water with a man following it. He told someone not to touch it. He almost did anyway. Then it switched to someone who just bought a "new" house. She was ecstatic about it, but it was falling apart and looked like it was unlivable.

That's an interesting dream...is that all you recall of the details?
 

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Yeah, you're right. It's just another war, like the war against poverty, the gang wars in our streets, the warring factions in politics. -- Nothing to be worried about!




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Apparently some would disregard the SIGNIFICANCE of Ezekiel 38 & 39 and Daniel 11:40-44 as though it were of no consequence. But I suppose when nuclear weapons are employed it will be of little significance to the world. In fact it might not even make the news ...

Bobby Jo
Pessimillennialists self-consciously preach the progressive future failure of the gospel and therefore the inability or unwillingness of the Holy Spirit to transform the world positively in terms of kingdom standards. But, I believe all the places where God said WE shall inherit the Earth.
 
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That reads to be 'right on'.

God knows all things...and we can stay 'tucked under His Wing.' :)

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, you can't take someone else's prophecy (Psalms 91 for the JEWS). Your citation was for the Jews and was fulfilled EXACTLY per the premise provide by J.R. Church in his book "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms". But if what you attempt were possible, the I'm quite certain that the American Indians would have prevailed in that same expectation.

Nah, it doesn't work that way. There's a MUCH different future for the church and it will be more like Psalms 44 -- also written for the JEWS -- but may have parallels for the church.


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