Agree . He would not have ‘crucified the Lord of Glory ‘ if he had one inkling of what he had done.
(On my iPad , can’t find the verse ... )
It was the end of his power over mankind.
The glory of the cross was all Gods....His Plan , since before the creation of the world.
And Jesus said...” I come to do Thy will O Lord”
Helen...I don't think you are understanding HR's doctrine. It's a twisting of the word. It is the belief system of
the Conquistadors who raped and pillaged with impunity even while trying to get the native inhabitants of the new world "saved"...by putting their trust in the cross. They even carried a cross before them as they cut off their noses, ears, and hands to make them work harder to find gold and silver... .and to warn others what would happen to them if they didn't. All of this with the pretense of a trust in the cross of Christ and what Jesus did for them.
All of the crimes of Christianity stems from
this disconnect between faith and works.We will all be judged by our works NOT our beliefs. Do you deny that?
HR claims his works of the flesh are meaningless...not chargeable to him...because of belief.
Is that what you believe, Helen? God only looks for approval of a sacrifice and doesn't care what we do with our hands and feet? God doesn't care what you do in the flesh? Really?
The truth is that the Holy Spirit makes us MORE responsible for our sins...not less as HR says.
Hr said..."Since the sin debt of those who place their faith in Jesus has been paid by God, the child is sinless before God in spirit but not the flesh." (post #34)
This is pure Gnosticism. Something the early brethren wrote entire books against and is the subject of correction in 1 John 1. It divorces a person's sins from the responsibility of these. It makes grace a license to sin without consequence. It's all paid for in advance? Utter foolishness.
Jesus made the law MORE exacting ...like even thinking evil was wrong... like lusting after a woman being the same as adultery. Why would He do that if He didn't care about what we did in these bodies we have been given on loan? So then was this done to show us that God cares LESS about sin now? He is just looking for beliefs?...religious positions? Self-gratifying doctrinal posturings?
Really? I thought you were more in tune with the purpose of God than that.
Has the word become...the soul that sins...it shall live?
Whereby we were once
dead in sins are we now made
alive in sins? Born again sinners?
Ask HR about this.