I find your statement to be inaccurate to what the holy scriptures teach.
At the beginning, the scriptures are not ours yet! You can't make illegitimate claims on Christ and His word until you receive the Spirit of Christ.
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I find your statement to be inaccurate to what the holy scriptures teach.
If you have received the Spirit of Christ, the claims are legitimate.At the beginning, the scriptures are not ours yet! You can't make illegitimate claims on Christ and His word until you receive the Spirit of Christ.
If you have received the Spirit of Christ, the claims are legitimate.
There are also certain promises that can be obtained by someone who is just entering into faith with Christ.
What mistranslation? I wasn't even really quoting scripture...This is where the mistranslation comes in.
I am not saying that surrender to the Lordship of Christ isn't necessary.
I am saying, however, that faith in the blood of Jesus is essential.
We don't get something in return for surrender; surrender doesn't appropriate the blood of Jesus: faith does.So you'll agree to surrender, as long as you receive something in return for such surrender. That's not a surrender, that's a business deal!
What mistranslation? I wasn't even really quoting scripture...
We don't get something in return for surrender; surrender doesn't appropriate the blood of Jesus: faith does.
We surrender because the Holy Spirit moves upon us and we fall in love with Jesus.
At least, that is what did it for me.
By all means educate us as to what believing really means.The words believe, believer, and believing are mistranslations of the Greek word pisteuo. The English language doesn't have a corresponding verb to the noun Faith like the Greek does. So pisteuo couldn't be correctly translated into the English language. This is how your understanding was formed.
I'm not arguing with you on this; I agree with your above statement.Your not understanding!
NT saving Faith is a Continually surrendered life. Period!
I'm not arguing with you on this; I agree with your above statement.
However, surrender does not obtain forgiveness; only faith in the blood of Jesus does that.
By all means set forth what you believe.
Just know that I am a Berean who studies to shew myself approved.
Mmm-hmm...Ok , at the start of the salvation journey we are drawn or called by The Father to Christ.
Agree?
Mmm-hmm...