The loser of an argument never goes down easy – and your insistence in beating this dead horse just makes me have to exposeyour LIE that many more times. . . .
Here is an
statement from Gerhard Mueller, Pope Francis’ Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith:
“If Amoris Laetitia intended to rescind such a deeply rooted and such a weighty DISCIPLINE, it would have expressed itself in a clear manner and it would have given the reasons for it. However, such a statement with such a meaning is not to be found in [the document]. Nowhere does the pope put into question the arguments of his predecessors.”
Notice the term “DISCIPLINE”, which I bolded and rendered in ALL CAPS.
You are WRONG here and you were WRONG all along - but you kept insisting that you were right.
LOL
This is toooo funny.
1. You didn't state the source.
2. Please note that Mueller is the head of the CONGREGATION OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH. He's trying to show that THERE WAS NO CHANGE,,when, in fact, there was.
3. I posted this document days ago. It's an OFFICIAL document of the Vatican:
and in the Letter written in 1994 by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Annus internationalis Familiae.
source: Declaration of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts
4. Of course Mueller would say that....he AGREES WITH THE CHANGE.
5. Here is the source of your above statement...next time please post a source just like I have done.
Others will be bored by now,,,but the following is MORE than what YOU have stated and which will show that the Vatican is backtracking and TRYING to say there is no change.
IF a discipline can be changed..WHY would the Pope try to back track?
What would be THE BIG DEAL of a small change in DISCIPLINE?
Also, let it be shown that a teaching and a discipline can be WITHIN a doctrine.
Here is more of your source:
the blue is mine...
May 4, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – The head of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, considered second only to the pope as the Vatican’s authority on doctrinal matters, has responded to the question of whether Pope Francis’ recent exhortation, Amoris Laetitia, has opened the door to giving Communion to divorced and civilly remarried Catholics.
Cardinal Gerhard Müller’s response is unambiguous: the Church’s teaching cannot be changed, and the exhortation did not do so.
[THE CHURCH'S TEACHING CANNOT BE CHANGED.
DOCTRINE CANNOT BE CHANGED....SO this is CLEARLY not a discipline as you've stated.
If it was a discipline there would have been no problem.]
The clarification from Cardinal Müller on the much-debated footnote 351 is likely to be the highest-level clarification to come out of the Vatican. When Pope Francis was recently asked about the footnote by journalists he said he did not remember it, nor what it said.
[Pope Francis CANNOT REMEMBER footnote 351...HOW CONVENIENT]
The cardinal gave his remarks during a recent trip to Spain. As reported by Die Tagespost, and translated by Maike Hickson at 1Peter5, Cardinal Müller spoke directly to arguments interpreting Amoris Laetitia as saying, in the words of the newspaper, that “the door has been opened for the remarried to be admitted to the Sacraments in individual cases.”
The newspaper reports that the cardinal stated, “with decisiveness,” that this is not the case, and that statements by previous popes on the matter still stand.
[CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE OR REMARRIEDS WOULD NOT BE RECEIVING COMMUNION!]
“This applies clearly to the reception of Holy Communion by remarried divorcees,” said Müller. “What has been taught by John Paul II in Familiaris Consortio and by Benedict XVI in Sacramentum Caritatis is still valid in an unchanged way.”
Arguments that Amoris Laetitia changed Church practice on Communion for the divorced and remarried are based largely on footnote 351, which comes in the context of a chapter devoted to the Church’s pastoral care for couples in “irregular” unions, and which states that this help can “in some cases include the help of the Sacraments” – with reference to Confession and the Eucharist.
At face value, this humble footnote was taken by many, including several German bishops, among them Cardinal Reinhard Marx, as marking a change from Pope St. John Paul II’s teaching in Familiaris Consortio. Cardinal Walter Kasper, while not making specific reference to the footnote, has also stated that it “seems clear” the exhortation allows Communion for the remarried divorcees.
In Familiaris Consortio Pope John Paul II had stated that couples in adulterous second unions can only receive the Eucharist if they separate, or, if they cannot separate for “serious reasons,” then they live together as “brother and sister” – i.e. without sexual relations.
However, Cardinal Müller clarified that this Magisterial teaching cannot change, and that, even if the pope intended to do so, the conditions for changing such a serious matter are not present in Amoris Laetitia.
[Oh, look again. Muller said that THIS VERY MAGESTERIAL TEACHING CANNOT BE CHANGED.....
AGAIN...CONFIRMING THAT THIS IS A DOCTRINE BECAUSE DOCTRINE CANNOT CHANGE...and as YOU have plainly stated....discipline CAN....so YOU ARE WRONG
BoL...admit it and let's get this over with]
If Amoris Laetitia intended to rescind such a deeply rooted and such a weighty discipline, it would have expressed itself in a clear manner and it would have given the reasons for it. However, such a statement with such a meaning is not to be found in [Amoris Laetitia]. Nowhere does the pope put into question the arguments of his predecessors. They are not based upon the subjective guilt of these our brothers and sisters, but, rather, upon the visible, objective way of life which is in opposition to the words of Christ.
The statement from Cardinal Müller on the much-debated footnote 351 is likely to be the highest-level clarification to come out of the Vatican. When Pope Francis was recently asked about the footnote by journalists on a plane ride back from the Greek Island of Lesbos, he said he did not remember it, nor what it said.
source: Cardinal Müller: Pope’s exhortation does not allow Communion for divorced/remarried - CatholicCitizens.org