Does he believe he is God?

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The temple of God is not a building made by human hands.
Really? Since when did you arrive at this conclusion? Just because the Church is metaphorically the temple of the Holy Spirit does not preclude or exclude actual literal, physical, and visible temples.

1. Solomon's temple was built with human hands.
2. Ezra-Nehemiah's temple was built with human hands.
3. Herod's temple was built with human hands.
4. Antichrist's temple will be built with human hands.
5. God's final temple will be built with human hands.

While Stephen and Paul did say (within context) that God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, it was in the context of being the omnipresent Creator ("seeing that He is Lord of Heaven and earth") who cannot be confined to a temple. At the same time the Shekinah glory and presence of God did come into the tabernacle, as well as Solomon's temple, but then departed.

However, God will again come into His temple and sanctuary on earth during and after the Millennium. This is the vision given to Ezekiel for the future (Ezek 44:1,2,4).

Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut... Then brought he me the way of the north gate before the house: and I looked, and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD: and I fell upon my face.
 

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Really? Since when did you arrive at this conclusion? Just because the Church is metaphorically the temple of the Holy Spirit does not preclude or exclude actual literal, physical, and visible temples.

1. Solomon's temple was built with human hands.
2. Ezra-Nehemiah's temple was built with human hands.
3. Herod's temple was built with human hands.
4. Antichrist's temple will be built with human hands.
5. God's final temple will be built with human hands.

While Stephen and Paul did say (within context) that God does not dwell in temples made with human hands, it was in the context of being the omnipresent Creator ("seeing that He is Lord of Heaven and earth") who cannot be confined to a temple. At the same time the Shekinah glory and presence of God did come into the tabernacle, as well as Solomon's temple, but then departed.

However, God will again come into His temple and sanctuary on earth during and after the Millennium. This is the vision given to Ezekiel for the future (Ezek 44:1,2,4).

Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut... Then brought he me the way of the north gate before the house: and I looked, and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD: and I fell upon my face.

So you believe God will defy the word of God and will dwell in a temple built with human,hands?

Acts 7:48 However, the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:
 

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The king of the north is not an antichrist.


No, but you're talking about him and one who will "stand in the temple showing himself that he is God." That's not the King of the North, either. That's the antichrist.

So who, exactly, are you talking about?

The temple of God is not a building made by human hands.

The one the antichrist will inhabit is.
 

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No, but you're talking about him and one who will "stand in the temple showing himself that he is God." That's not the King of the North, either. That's the antichrist.

So who, exactly, are you talking about?



The one the antichrist will inhabit is.

This tread is about Trump who has metioned he is the chosen one just after quoting a man who says he is like the second coming Of God and thanking that man.Its also about Trump casualy mentioning killing tens of millions of people.
 

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I am not surprised about it, but I certainly do not accept it either. I am surprised that he still has supporters

Hmmm , not sure if I would or wouldnt support him. Looking from the outside in, it appears to me that America has two choices in its upcoming election:

1 . Vote for a patriotic demagouge

2. Vote to turn over its sovereignty to the UN (as Canada continues to do)

Perhaps the primaries will wind up giving you better options..
 

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Hmmm , not sure if I would or wouldnt support him. Looking from the outside in, it appears to me that America has two choices in its upcoming election:

1 . Vote for a patriotic demagouge

2. Vote to turn over its sovereignty to the UN (as Canada continues to do)

Perhaps the primaries will wind up giving you better options..

I am much more afraid of Nationalism and Fascism than I am about a bunch of national leaders sitting around talking to feel important. I do not buy into the one world conspiracy either so trying to run from that story by following a dictator doesn’t make sense to me
 

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The king of the north is not an antichrist.
The temple of God is not a building made by human hands.

What do you mean by the king of the north not being an antichrist? The new updated 'Antiochus' is what people generally understand the 'antichrist' to be.

I agree that Trump is some sort of antichrist, these statements coming hours before the last day of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.

(Daniel 9:2 refers to 70 years of Jerusalem desolations, then goes into Daniel 9:24's 70 weeks, then 7 weeks, then 62 weeks, then half a week which starts the great tribulation. In other words, May 14, 1948 + 70 Hebrew calendar years to 5 Iyyar, 5778 (dusk April 19, 2018) + 70 weeks to anoint the 'most holy' (the last day of which was dusk Aug 21, 2019 to dusk Aug 22, 2019 which in USA timezone = roughly 12:30 pm Eastern Aug 21, 2019 to 12:30 pm Eastern Aug 22, 2019.)

Put another way, the conspiracy theorist functioned as the 'priest' that 'anointed' Trump as the 'most holy' on the last day of the literal 70 weeks following the literal 70 years of Jerusalem desolations. No coincidence.

It seems that when Trump is killed off (?), then 'Michael will stand up' (they want to pawn VP Mike Pence off onto Israel as its defender.)
 

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More hate. More lies.
No one here hates Trump.I just happen to know who he is.Also know what hes going to do.

PS,Donald Trump said he never asked God for forgiveness. Did you ever attempt to preach the gospel to him so he would have known,to repent or did you say nothing to him?

Or does Trump believe he needs no forgiveness?

Not sure how close you all pay attention to Trump.When i first heard this it didnt suprise me.
Trump casually discussed killing tens of millions of people.

Trump just casually discussed killing tens of millions of people in horrifying nuke fantasy

I know Trump doesnt use nukes for several years yet so dont panic
 

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What do you mean by the king of the north not being an antichrist? The new updated 'Antiochus' is what people generally understand the 'antichrist' to be.

I agree that Trump is some sort of antichrist, these statements coming hours before the last day of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.

(Daniel 9:2 refers to 70 years of Jerusalem desolations, then goes into Daniel 9:24's 70 weeks, then 7 weeks, then 62 weeks, then half a week which starts the great tribulation. In other words, May 14, 1948 + 70 Hebrew calendar years to 5 Iyyar, 5778 (dusk April 19, 2018) + 70 weeks to anoint the 'most holy' (the last day of which was dusk Aug 21, 2019 to dusk Aug 22, 2019 which in USA timezone = roughly 12:30 pm Eastern Aug 21, 2019 to 12:30 pm Eastern Aug 22, 2019.)

Put another way, the conspiracy theorist functioned as the 'priest' that 'anointed' Trump as the 'most holy' on the last day of the literal 70 weeks following the literal 70 years of Jerusalem desolations. No coincidence.

It seems that when Trump is killed off (?), then 'Michael will stand up' (they want to pawn VP Mike Pence off onto Israel as its defender.)

I dont label someone "antichrist" by what other people believe.I understand the term,antichrist by what John taught an antichrist is in the bible.
According to John,who termed the word antichrist in the bible.An,antichrist is someone who claims Christ has not come.The person denies Jesus is the Christ.
The Pharisres were antichrist for instance.Most of the people in Israel today are antichrist.

Daniel does not lable the king of the north as an,antichrist and does not say what he believes or says about Jesus.
He does worship himself .But Daniel does not state the king of the north is an antichrist .
 
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No worries keep doing you....Blind leading the blind ,you would(IMO) follow trump 2 hell as would most of his supporters....

I would say most of the people in Israel love Donald Trump as much as his supporters by this verse.

Daniel 11:32 With flattery he will corrupt those who violate the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
But there are a few people in,Israel who know God and his word who Trump cant corrupt.

What im curious about is will Netanyahus cashless society be ready to be implemented at this time.
 
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I would say most of the people in Israel love Donald Trump as much as his supporters by this verse.

Daniel 11:32 With flattery he will corrupt those who violate the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
But there are a few people in,Israel who know God and his word who Trump cant corrupt.

What im curious about is will Netanyahus cashless society be ready to be implemented at this time.
You have no clue what prophesy speaks concerning what His Will and purpose for Trump and Netanyahu serve in fulfilling His Will and prophetic promise....just as He has appointed those to serve Him in righteousness He also appointed those who serve their place in serving Satan's purpose....all so that His Will be done on earth as it is done in heaven. And He tells us to pray for our leaders...not complain about them.
 
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You have no clue what prophesy speaks concerning what His Will and purpose for Trump and Netanyahu serve in fulfilling His Will and prophetic promise....just as He has appointed those to serve Him in righteousness He also appointed those who serve their place in serving Satan's purpose....all so that His Will be done on earth as it is done in heaven. And He tells us to pray for our leaders...not complain about them.

Actually Netanyshu himsrlf has already saidIsrael,will have a cashless society and has already started it.
As for Trump.Hes been,talking about killing tens of millions of people.

As for the bible.Its says what they will do.Anyone who pays attention to it knows what they will do.
 

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Actually Netanyshu himsrlf has already saidIsrael,will have a cashless society and has already started it.
As for Trump.Hes been,talking about killing tens of millions of people.

As for the bible.Its says what they will do.Anyone who pays attention to it knows what they will do.
Sure it does...lets not forget how the far left liberals enjoy killing babies...it is the one thing that provokes God to act quicker than anything ....Pharoah learned that lesson the hard way...so did Herod.
 

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I would say most of the people in Israel love Donald Trump as much as his supporters by this verse.

Daniel 11:32 With flattery he will corrupt those who violate the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.
But there are a few people in,Israel who know God and his word who Trump cant corrupt.

What im curious about is will Netanyahus cashless society be ready to be implemented at this time.

Something has to happen because it's written, I feel once Russia China and Iran come around we will have a one world government. Who loves all 3 of them ?

Agree with you about Israel as the good and the bad figs returned to form that nation ,but I seriously think the good ones are outnumbered.
 

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Ive read of a man who would stand in the temple showing himself that he is God.
Ive considerd the temple to be a body of believers and have held that belief for decades.

The most powerful man in the world has no problem with anyone believing he is the Messiah and wouldnt correct anyone for stating such but insted would thank them.

Trump Declares Himself “King of Israel,” the “Second Coming of God”

Does this man,believe he is the Messiah?

Daniel 11:36 Then the king will do as he pleases and will exalt and magnify himself above every god, and he will speak monstrous things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been decreed must be accomplished.

According to this verse he is a very successful man untill the time of the end.
This article written by Vanity Fair distorts the truth. Trump never claimed to be the King of Israel. I watched the interview and he was talking about trade with China and how other presidents refused to hold China accountable for their unfair trade practices with the US and other countries. He said he was the chosen one to have to deal with China because others in office refused to do it.
If you are going to quote him then be honest about what you quote.