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You will probably see the mountain in the Transfiguration as physical too then. There again we find only a select few went up. Nine disciples got left below. There was a cloud there too.

Some may see the mountain in Mark as physical too.

Luke 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

Where could such a mountain be?

In the center of the flat earth, naturally!

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Gosh.... And here I thought that Scripture spoke of having our hope "in Him", not in an escape pod.
That's right, it's the ultimate escape pod! One day, I will in fact become just like Jesus! And since I know it's going to happen then, that moves me to be more like Him now.

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Hey, Anyone reading this….. If God offered you the choice between staying here till you were at least a hundred, and loving as many people as you could (as Jesus did), or being snatched out of here in an "escape pod" 12 minutes from now...…. Which would you choose?

It's a serious question.
 

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You are forgetting what it says in 1 John 3:2-3.

In placing my expectation and hope in the coming rapture, I purify myself even as He is pure.

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure." I John 3:2-3


The "hope" is to see him as he is. To presume that such sighting will fit any man's rapture definitions is adding things that are not in those verses. Already every person who has any "eyes to see" at all from God sees Him... that is now... even if it may still be as through a "glass darkly".

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face:..." I Cor 13:12
 

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John heard a trumpet and was caught up to Heaven. Does that mean anything?
 

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Hey, Anyone reading this….. If God offered you the choice between staying here till you were at least a hundred, and loving as many people as you could (as Jesus did), or being snatched out of here in an "escape pod" 12 minutes from now...…. Which would you choose?

It's a serious question.
I've considered this very seriously, and I would stay.

Part of my prayers are for as much time in this world as possible.

Much love!
 

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Hey, Anyone reading this….. If God offered you the choice between staying here till you were at least a hundred, and loving as many people as you could (as Jesus did), or being snatched out of here in an "escape pod" 12 minutes from now...…. Which would you choose?

It's a serious question.
We work while it is day, the night is coming in which no man can work. What we do here impacts our next destination, and we have this one opportunity to accomplish what can be accomplished here.

I for one want to bear as much fruit as possible, and fruit comes in its own season. I want to be around for more seasons.

Much love!
 

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We work while it is day, the night is coming in which no man can work. What we do here impacts our next destination, and we have this one opportunity to accomplish what can be accomplished here.

I for one want to bear as much fruit as possible, and fruit comes in its own season. I want to be around for more seasons.

Much love!
We can all pray to be kept from evil, as Jesus prayed for his disciples when he wanted them to stay in the world.

John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
 
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Giuliano

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But I do think they were real mountains, fwiw.

Much love!
How about Jonah?

Jonah 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,
2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.
 

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How about Jonah?

Jonah 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly,
2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.
Why not? Isn't he talking about this sea creature swimming with him to the bottom of the sea?

Some suggest that this refers to Jonah dying and coming back to life. Your thoughts?

Much love!
 

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We can all pray to be kept from evil, as Jesus prayed for his disciples when he wanted them to stay in the world.

John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

And, we can pray to be delivered from evil, instead of being tested with it, "lead us not into tempation, but deliver us from evil".

And on the day Jesus comes to call the remainder of the church to be with Him, up into the sky we'll go, until it's time to return with Him.

Much love!
 

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Why not? Isn't he talking about this sea creature swimming with him to the bottom of the sea?

Some suggest that this refers to Jonah dying and coming back to life. Your thoughts?

Much love!
He said he was at the "bottoms of mountains." How could that be at the bottom of the sea?

I definitely relate it to the crucifixion. Jesus used different language, and I don't read this to mean only that his body was in the tomb since "heart" would be hard to apply:

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
 

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Each person will have to decide for himself, of course, which is meant; but often there are things on the earth that correspond to things in Heaven. As time goes by and the kingdom makes progress, the earthly comes closer and closer to being like the Heavenly. Thus we pray, "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven." There is the earthy Jerusalem today; and then there is the City coming down from Heaven, the "new Jerusalem."

Some day the earth will be perfectly conformed to Heaven.

Not buying it. My church is going through the book of Deuteronomy presently. And it's pretty clear that Mt. Horeb was a physical mountain.

Gosh.... And here I thought that Scripture spoke of having our hope "in Him", not in an escape pod.

It appears that you have again failed to look up the scriptures in question.

Hey, Anyone reading this….. If God offered you the choice between staying here till you were at least a hundred, and loving as many people as you could (as Jesus did), or being snatched out of here in an "escape pod" 12 minutes from now...…. Which would you choose?

It's a serious question.

Considering that those left behind will be so left in order that they might be the recipients of God's wrath on a Christ-rejecting world; and considering that everyone by the time the rapture happens will have made a final decision concerning eternity, I think that I would choose to go up and take part in the wedding feast.

Jhn 9:4, I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

"For now we see through a glass, darkly;

And if that is the case, we do not (now) see Him as He is.
 
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Not buying it. my church is going through the book of Deuteronomy presently. And it's pretty clear that Mt. Horeb was a physical mountain.
It's something everyone will have to decide for himself, I guess. I agree definitely that there is a physical mountain; but I think there is a spiritual one too.
 
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