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God is our Father. And our Creator. He creates by His Word. We are created by the Word of Jesus to be the Child or the Son. If Jesus is the Word then who is the Real Son?
A couple of questions you might consider is 1) What is Real to God?... and 2) What is a Son to God? How does His understanding differ from that of carnal men?God is our Father. And our Creator. He creates by His Word. We are created by the Word of Jesus to be the Child or the Son. If Jesus is the Word then who is the Real Son?
Jesus is both the Word and the Son, and also the Creator. You seem to be thoroughly confused.God is our Father. And our Creator. He creates by His Word. We are created by the Word of Jesus to be the Child or the Son. If Jesus is the Word then who is the Real Son?
Jesus is both the Word and the Son, and also the Creator. You seem to be thoroughly confused.
Please supply your evidence or reasoning that shows that only one title or name can be used bu Jesus. Jesus is God the Son, part of the triune God.
He is also the 'logos' the word,
the Lamb of God, the second Adam and many other titles that I cannot remember.
We are not created to be 'the child/son' but are adopted into God's family.
A couple of questions you might consider is 1) What is Real to God?... and 2) What is a Son to God? How does His understanding differ from that of carnal men?
It is not what I think but what has been revealed in Scripture. While there is no doubt that the triune Godhead was involved, Jesus is clearly desiginated as the Creator.But you think Jesus is the Creator?
How can the Father become the Son and the Son become the Father? Could that be true for you or anyone else? That would be absurd.Jesus did not ever become God. God the Father became God the Son
Ok. Let us talk about it.
God is the Creator. And He creates by The Word He speaks.
Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.*n1
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Seems to me God is the Creator.
Isaiah 40
28 ¶Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, theLord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there isno searching of his understanding.
But you think Jesus is the Creator?
It is not what I think but what has been revealed in Scripture. While there is no doubt that the triune Godhead was involved, Jesus is clearly desiginated as the Creator.
JESUS WHO IS THE WORD IS THE CREATOR
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. (John 1:1-4)
JESUS THE IMAGE OF GOD IS THE CREATOR
15 [Christ] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn [pre-eminent] of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. (Colossians 1:15-17)
HEBREWS 1 -- JESUS WHO IS GOD IS THE CREATOR
8 But unto the Son [Christ] he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
Interesting! Jesus is the Word of God only to the extent God has spoken. What He has not spoken is not yet the Word and therefore is not yet part of Jesus. Wrapping one's head around that without God's help is nigh onto impossible... but then again:God spoke everything into existence...HIS WORD...who is The Word of God? Well, Jesus Christ is The Word. NOTHING in His creation was created without His WORD (Jesus Christ) If you have seen/known Jesus then you also know the Father...they are inseparable.
I once read something on here that intrigued me, somebody posted about Jesus not knowing: "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." The poster suggested that the reason that the Son does not know the day or hour is because God The Father has not "spoken" it yet.
No...the Son did not become the Father...but the Father did become flesh and dwelt among us.How can the Father become the Son and the Son become the Father? Could that be true for you or anyone else? That would be absurd.
God the Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit
God the Son is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit
God the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son
Then Jesus would not be fully God.What He has not spoken is not yet the Word and therefore is not yet part of Jesus.
You continue to be confused in spite of everything. Let's hope you do not confuse others.No...the Son did not become the Father...but the Father did become flesh and dwelt among us.
I am not confused in the slightest...but Isaiah 9:6 proclaims clearly what I am trying to say...that Jesus' Name (the name of the son that was given) is among other things the everlasting Father.You continue to be confused in spite of everything. Let's hope you do not confuse others.
Confucius say: Those who are confused love their confusion.
Suddenly Confucius has a say in what is believed by Christians.Confucius say: Those who are confused love their confusion.
Then Jesus would not be fully God.
I think that we should refrain from speculating about things we know nothing about.