Calvinism

[CharismaticLady]

And I’ve was served this rotten meat your trying to peddle 30 yers ago, rejected it then also

I really don't know what you personally believe to comment.

 

[reformed1689]

I didn't lie.

Yeah...ok...

 

[Waiting on him]

I asked him about how he used the word "saved."

You guys seem to like playing semantics.

 

[Waiting on him]

Reported.

Don’t care same as dung

 

[Waiting on him]

I really don't know what you personally believe to comment.

Your right about that

 

[CharismaticLady]

Some hold Calvinism as their understanding of the gospel (which is fair). Others hold it as the gospel itself (which is "another gospel" than preached by the Apostles). Calvinism as the gospel is powerless.

Luther's version was worse, but not by much.

 

[reformed1689]

Have you ever been baptized with the Holy Spirit? If you have, you know that is not out of context. We who have been filled with the Spirit live this life, not the one that always sins as you try to preach.

Who said always sins? I said it is impossible to be living on this earth and not sin ever again. The Bible does not teach that anywhere. It teaches the opposite. It does not give license to sin. We are to repent. You still haven't dealt with James 5 by the way. Just said it is too advanced theology, despite the fact I have a degree in theology, and that I was drinking milk. All you provide is ad hominem, strawman, and red herring arguments. You have no idea what you are talking about and you lie if you say you have not sinned since your salvation. It's a lie straight from hell.

 

[Giuliano]

So what? Actions speak louder than words. Many things are implied in Scripture, but people continue to look for explicit statements.

And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God. But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests? (Acts 9:20,21)

What does Acts 9 have to do with how the word "saved" is used by the authors of the Bible? Try to stay on topic. While I agree that some things can be implied in the Bible, it is also our duty to read the actual words written without substituting others so the passages fit our preconceived notions, justifying some tradition of men. People can invent almost anything and justify it by saying the Bible implies it.

 

[reformed1689]

Reported.

Reported for what?

 

[Waiting on him]

Reported.

How about dung from doughnuts, is that more palatable?

 

[CharismaticLady]

Who said always sins? I said it is impossible to be living on this earth and not sin ever again. The Bible does not teach that anywhere. It teaches the opposite. It does not give license to sin. We are to repent. You still haven't dealt with James 5 by the way. Just said it is too advanced theology, despite the fact I have a degree in theology, and that I was drinking milk. All you provide is ad hominem, strawman, and red herring arguments. You have no idea what you are talking about and you lie if you say you have not sinned since your salvation. It's a lie straight from hell.

I would bet your degree is in Calvinism, not the whole gospel of Jesus.

 

[John Caldwell]

Your serious aren’t you?

Yes. The author of Hebrews admonished his audience for a lack of spiritual growth. In the context they never grew out of the "milk" stage. There was other things they should be taught but they could not digest those teachings due to their infancy.

I believe the context was a type of legal adherence to their ideas of the Old Testament (I believe the epistle written to Jews caught up in the transition between Judiasm and Christianity).

So yes, very serious. We have to get out of the habit of indoctrination and sending out. We have to start discipling people, otherwise we just produce more people like @David Taylor - well meaning but not yet weaned. These babes become stumbling blocks for other people.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Yes. The author of Hebrews admonished his audience for a lack of spiritual growth. In the context they never grew out of the "milk" stage. There was other things they should be taught but they could not digest those teachings due to their infancy.

I believe the context was a type of legal adherence to their ideas of the Old Testament (I believe the epistle written to Jews caught up in the transition between Judiasm and Christianity).

So yes, very serious. We have to get out of the habit of indoctrination and sending out. We have to start discipling people, otherwise we just produce more people like @David Taylor - well meaning but not yet weaned. These babes become stumbling blocks for other people.

Paul said the same thing of the Corinthians (1 Corinthians 3:2)

 

[CharismaticLady]

Good night

 

[Grailhunter]

Luke 6:37 KJV
[37] Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


Tecarta Bible

I do not mock Calvinism, I condemn Calvinism

Its about the evils of Calvinism. I fellowship with several denominations. I will stand with the Pentecosts when the Holy Spirit is moving and people are speaking in tongues and pray that I am next. I will listen to stories of the visitations of the Virgin Mary and pray one day I will see her. I will go to the altar call for the laying on of hands and oil for healing. I am tolerant of many of the formulas for the construct of the Trinity. I will defend many religions. But I draw the line at those religions that slander God or deny that Christ is a God, or want to push Christianity into occultism. I believe that life is a walk with Christ and who knows if He will straighten the Calvinists out on the evils within. If not I will be before Christ as a defender of God and they will be explaining why they preached He is monster. I post these gifs so they know they cannot hide the truth from the world. The world of Christianity knows the wrongness and evilness of Calvinism. And if I save just one soul from this horrid religion, I have done well.

 

[Giuliano]

I would bet your degree is in Calvinism, not the whole gospel of Jesus.

My guess is he's not been around many people who didn't share the same teachings very much. He may think we're all raving mad because in his corner of the world, everyone agrees with him. He was taught a certain way and thought his teachers had to know what was right. Everyone agreed with them. That meant they had to be right, no?

 

[Waiting on him]

Yes. The author of Hebrews admonished his audience for a lack of spiritual growth. In the context they never grew out of the "milk" stage. There was other things they should be taught but they could not digest those teachings due to their infancy.

I believe the context was a type of legal adherence to their ideas of the Old Testament (I believe the epistle written to Jews caught up in the transition between Judiasm and Christianity).

So yes, very serious. We have to get out of the habit of indoctrination and sending out. We have to start discipling people, otherwise we just produce more people like @David Taylor - well meaning but not yet weaned. These babes become stumbling blocks for other people.

Ok, where is hell?

 

[reformed1689]

I would bet your degree is in Calvinism, not the whole gospel of Jesus.

And you would be wrong.

 

[reformed1689]

Its about the evils of Calvinism.

What evil? Be specific.

I will stand with the Pentecosts when the Holy Spirit is moving and people are speaking in tongues and pray that I am next.

Unbiblical.

I will defend many religions.

Really? Heresy.

I believe that life is a walk with Christ and who knows if He will straighten the Calvinists out on the evils within.

Again, what evil?

If not I will be before Christ as a defender of God and they will be explaining why they preached He is monster.

Who preaches God is a monster? I know I don't.

And if I save just one soul from this horrid religion, I have done well.

The Christian religion? Hmmm..

 

[Grailhunter]

What evil? Be specific.

Unbiblical.

Really? Heresy.

Again, what evil?

Who preaches God is a monster? I know I don't.

The Christian religion? Hmmm..

I am saying Calvinism and predestinationists, believes that an entity created heaven, and earth and mankind. I am not sure if they believe if their god took free-will away from Mankind or they never had a chance. For them a sovereign god means everything is a puppet show. From there Mankind if forced to be good or bad by the will of god, by what they call predestination. In effect this belief puts Satan out of business and their god takes over. Pretty much makes judgment day a mute point, since all judgment occurs before they are born.

If every action and thought is under the control of their god, it nullifies, choice, free-will, belief, faith, scriptures, love, grace, prayers, salvation, and good deeds because all of that was forced on them so none of that is to their merit or free-will. Alternatively this entity forces people to be bad, forces them to sin and then damns them to hell. By no sin of their own they are damned to be tortured forever, no free-will, no escape, no mercy, just predetermined damnation.

Historically those that believe they are the “elect” have committed the worst of atrocities. The term “elect” is used to edify themselves, doctrines to damn others to edify themselves. All Christians that believe, are the “elect” not the few that slander God. Evil lurks on the Internet, this is a warning to those that run into it. They come talking of love and scriptures, but it is all a lie! Who need scriptures if you are forced to believe?