Calvinism

[Waiting on him]

No, I didn't. Because I haven't the slightest idea HOW that happens.

Maybe something to look into?

 

[CharismaticLady]

This is an issue in our churches. People convert and are indoctrinated and sent out to preach and teach. There is no spiritual growth, just the acquisition of knowledge and philosophy. We have babes in Christ misleading other babes from true discipleship.

No wonder they are so illiterate. But we are also to blame (those like me) because we saw a lack of doctrine and perhaps minimized the actual meat of the Word to focus on "correct" theology.

Can you just imagine if I did try to teach him a little "advanced," the meat of the gospel? He'd be more confused than he is now.

 

[John Caldwell]

I've taught the answer for years. He's just not ready, nor open.

Many of us were like that at one time. We learn and grow.

He'll grow out of it....or he wont. We can only hope and pray.....toss a few pearls his way.

 

[John Caldwell]

Can you just imagine if I did try to teach him a little "advanced," the meat of the gospel? He'd be more confused than he is now.

I think to him the "meat" of the Word is Calvinism. The flesh cannot understand spiritual things. That is his first obsticle - to turn from human philosophy and simply trust God and His Word. This is repentance and has to come first.

 

[Waiting on him]

I do not mock Calvinism, I condemn Calvinism

Luke 6:37 KJV
[37] Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


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[Willie T]

Maybe something to look into?

You've got more than 20 years to go till you are my age. I wasn't able to do it, so let us know how you are doing as time goes by. Taylor is even about 20 years younger..... maybe he will figure it out.

 

[Waiting on him]

Can you just imagine if I did try to teach him a little "advanced," the meat of the gospel? He'd be more confused than he is now.

That seems rather sanctimonious.

 

[reformed1689]

This is advanced theology you are not ready for. You are still not digesting milk!

16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

Says the one who lies about healing dogs.

 

[reformed1689]

You do with your beliefs that a Christian sins, erroneously pointing to Paul.

Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. 3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

More Scripture out of context.

 

[John Caldwell]

That seems rather sanctimonious.

It is actually a biblical principle. Until one grasps the basic things of the faith that person cannot understand more advanced teachings.

 

[Waiting on him]

You've got 30 years to go till you are my age. I wasn't able to do it, so let us know how you are doing as time goes by. Taylor is even bout a dozen years younger..... maybe he will figure it out.

If I thought I was going to make it to 81 I’d have taken better care of myself.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I think to him the "meat" of the Word is Calvinism. The flesh cannot understand spuritual things. That is his first obsticle - to turn from human philosophy and simply trust God and His Word. This is repentance and has to come first.

Yes repentance. But they think it is confessing each sin as they commit them, rather that acknowledging that our whole nature is weak, and we need Jesus to save us and empower us through the Holy Spirit to change our desires, so that we will not commit willful sins of lawlessness again.

 

[Waiting on him]

It is actually a biblical principle. Until one grasps the basic things of the faith that person cannot understand more advanced teachings.

Your serious aren’t you?

 

[CharismaticLady]

That seems rather sanctimonious.

I'm sorry to say you may not be ready for meat either.

 

[CharismaticLady]

Says the one who lies about healing dogs.

I didn't lie.

 

[CharismaticLady]

More Scripture out of context.

Have you ever been baptized with the Holy Spirit? If you have, you know that is not out of context. We who have been filled with the Spirit live this life, not the one that always sins as you try to preach.

 

[John Caldwell]

Yes repentance. But they think it is confessing each sin as they commit them, rather that acknowledging that our whole nature is weak, and we need Jesus to save us and empower us through the Holy Spirit to change our desires, so that we will not commit willful sins of lawlessness again.

Some hold Calvinism as their understanding of the gospel (which is fair). Others hold it as the gospel itself (which is "another gospel" than preached by the Apostles). Calvinism as the gospel is powerless.

 

[Waiting on him]

I'm sorry to say you may not be ready for meat either.

And I’ve was served this rotten meat your trying to peddle 30 yers ago, rejected it then also

 

[Giuliano]

Galatians 1:15-16 KJV
[15] But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, [16] To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Is Christ in us not saved? Also notice Paul didn’t consult his flesh.
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I asked him about how he used the word "saved."

 

[CharismaticLady]

I know people that have warmed pews for 30 years and don’t know shit from shiny rocks. You admitted yourself you were one of these.

Reported.