Estimated Dates of the Events of the 1 Year Great Tribulation of the Earth

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The Torah was given to an earth that has sinners, which is why it was made for the torahless. And until sin exists, the Torah is still needed, because it defines what sin is.
sounds a lot like the reason we make gun laws? For those who ignore them? which might be your point, dunno, but i wonder if you could rephrase the second sentence, "until sin exists?" you lost me there, ty
 
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ps fiat currency is fine, no sin in unmanipulated fiat at all imo. No sin in the manipulated stuff either if one is ignorant of that now, is there? What is a sin for you may not be a sin for others, right? And once you have learned that maniped fiat is a sin you should also be aware that we are all swimming in sin anyway. Throw away any plastic today bro? i mean pls

why does gold have value, someone pls tell me
why is gold more valuable than lead?

Just as adultery is sin for everyone that commits it, so in likewise the possession of paper money and fiat currency is sin to everyone who possess it. The difference between the value of gold and the value of paper money and fiat currency is that the value of gold is based on its weight, which is not imaginary, 1 ozt is 1 ozt and 1 ozt today is the same 1 ozt tomorrow, whereas the value of fiat currency is a perceived imaginary value, a figment of the imagination, because its value doesn't represent anything, not even the value of the paper itself, which before was issued as paper money to represent gold, then was devalued, which made it a "false weight", then its representation of gold was taken away, which then became "fiat currency", a worse type of "false weight" after its initial devaluation, because it no longer has anything to do with weight nor gold, for even the former names of fiat currencies were names of weights, "dollars", "pounds", "shekels", "pesos", and so, in modern times people were left buying and selling with mere names and numbers, "the name of the beast" and the "number of the name", which are the two forms of the mark of the beast. This is forbidden currency, because of the thievery that is committed through its devaluation and debasement of money, and fiat currency through paper and mere numbers is the worse type of debasement of money possible. And this form of money also exists by the mutual consent of the people who use it daily, which is why everyone who possess it is worthy to be cursed by it.
 

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Just as adultery is sin for everyone that commits it, so in likewise the possession of paper money and fiat currency is sin to everyone who possess it.
well wadr so you say, but cannot prove Scripturally imo. The ignorant--which i'm sure you get means "those who dont know yet" and not "stupid," iow i am ignorant of many things--are not accused of sin, right? For an extreme example a little kid who has just been given his first dollar, he is in sin?

further replies to your post will be edited into this one ok
The difference between the value of gold and the value of paper money and fiat currency is that the value of gold is based on its weight, wh
but see you have deftly avoided the real Q, why is gold worth more than lead
 

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whereas the value of fiat currency is a perceived imaginary value, a figment of the imagination, because
well so you say, and i had to go check but wadr Lincoln's Greenbacks were not Demand Notes i guess, they were fiat, yet they do not seem to be fitting into your model very well. BTC sorry bitcoin is fiat and one is worth $ten Gs bro.
holla.

And no offense but if the gold/lead Q is not addressed ntmy, and i gotta go k
"And while sin exists" is what I meant.
ok fwiw you can still edit that for posterity if you like.
and do you know about the secret invisible track-back button, there just to the right of "said:" in every quote banner?
Actually ive been here a couple years now (new record for me, usually banned in six months no matter how much i confess/repent, Catholics are just awesome imo) and i'm just now realizing that in the right light (i'm doing this in the dark, which i never have done before) a very faint "up" arrow might be perceived...oh wow, play with your contrast, bada-bing)
This is forbidden currency, because of the thievery that is committed through its devaluation and debasement of money, and fiat currency through paper and mere numbers is the worse type of debasement of money possible. And this form of money also exists by the mutual consent of the people
ps i do agree with you to a point, but evabody uses it by agreement right--you dont agree and i dont agree and lotta others dont agree, right--so why not let whoever wanna use it use it, ok with me bro, i do not condemn anyone wanna use $ much anymore. And wadr i doubt that it is the best reflection of The Mark, although imo it is...intrinsic to it, sorry reader, but you get me anyway i guess;
money, fiat, dollars even, no sin imo. Love of money, diff story i think
 
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well so you say, and i had to go check but wadr Lincoln's Greenbacks were not Demand Notes i guess, they were fiat, yet they do not seem to be fitting into your model very well. BTC sorry bitcoin is fiat and one is worth $ten Gs bro.
holla.

And no offense but if the gold/lead Q is not addressed ntmy, and i gotta go k

ok fwiw you can still edit that for posterity if you like.
and do you know about the secret invisible track-back button, there just to the right of "said:" in every quote banner?
Actually ive been here a couple years now (new record for me, usually banned in six months no matter how much i confess/repent, Catholics are just awesome imo) and i'm just now realizing that in the right light (i'm doing this in the dark, which i never have done before) a very faint "up" arrow might be perceived...oh wow, play with your contrast, bada-bing)

ps i do agree with you to a point, but evabody uses it by agreement right--you dont agree and i dont agree and lotta others dont agree, right--so why not let whoever wanna use it use it, ok with me bro, i do not condemn anyone wanna use $ much anymore. And wadr i doubt that it is the best reflection of The Mark, although imo it is...intrinsic to it, sorry reader, but you get me anyway i guess;
money, fiat, dollars even, no sin imo. Love of money, diff story i think

First of all because God forbids this form of money. That is sufficient enough reason to not possess it nor use it. And secondly, because it impoverishes the world. What an Egyptian makes in minimum wage in one day is sufficient enough to buy food for one day in the USA. Do you not understand how terribly evil this is? All because of the form of money we have today.
 

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First of all because God forbids this form of money.
horse puckey, wadr. Or i mean Quote that, ok.
You forbid that form of money, awesome. Dont use it then.
i avoid it myself. If everyone else on the planet, after seeing inflation with their own eyes, wanna use it, what is that to me? See no offense but you are expecting the world to conform to your standards, rather than you leaving the world, imo
aint happenin bro
What you bless will be blessed, and what you curse will be cursed
 
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horse puckey, wadr. Or i mean Quote that, ok.
You forbid that form of money, awesome. Dont use it then.
i avoid it myself. If everyone else on the planet, after seeing inflation with their own eyes, wanna use it, what is that to me? See no offense but you are expecting the world to conform to your standards, rather than you leaving the world, imo
aint happenin bro
What you bless will be blessed, and what you curse will be cursed

God forbids it, not me. I am simply repeating what God forbids. "You shall have righteous balances and weights". Paper money and fiat currency is not a righteous weight, it is a false weight. And it fulfills the mark of the beast prophecy. If you wish to continue using it, then continue using. I am not holding you by the neck forbidding you to use it. But know that you will indeed be condemned for it, by God. Your choice.
 

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God forbids it, not me. I am simply repeating what God forbids. "You shall have righteous balances and weights". Paper money and fiat currency is not a righteous weight, it is a false weight. And it fulfills the mark of the beast prophecy. If you wish to continue using it, then continue using. I am not holding you by the neck forbidding you to use it. But know that you will indeed be condemned for it, by God. Your choice.
well see I have this thing, God also forbids me to reply to you anymore until you have addressed why gold and lead do not have equal value ok.

but for others, i will say that we have standardized weights and measures now, and you are trying to conflate that with our money, which again i agree, but you are not God's Mouthpiece after all, and others will not necessarily agree with us in this area. We were taken off of the "gold standard" right out in the open, bro, and since you dislike the Q i will say that gold has value, and only has any value over that of lead, bc we all agree that it does, same, ezack same, as fiat iow. Hence a lover of gold is just as much a sinner as a lover of manipulated fiat, yes?
 

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well see I have this thing, God also forbids me to reply to you anymore until you have addressed why gold and lead do not have equal value ok.

but for others, i will say that we have standardized weights and measures now, and you are trying to conflate that with our money, which again i agree, but you are not God's Mouthpiece after all, and others will not necessarily agree with us in this area. We were taken off of the "gold standard" right out in the open, bro, and since you dislike the Q i will say that gold has value, and only has any value over that of lead, bc we all agree that it does, same, ezack same, as fiat iow. Hence a lover of gold is just as much a sinner as a lover of manipulated fiat, yes?

You don't have to believe me, but what I am saying is the truth. Suit yourself.
 

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You don't have to believe me, but what I am saying is the truth. Suit yourself.
word.
i was going to anyway :D
and you bam do the same ok

"what i am saying is truth" (Gospel) i mean pls bro, listen to yourself now lol
why not just tell me where i can go bow to your altar, maybe leave a little something in the plate, be a lot quicker eh
 

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He's an immature young man, and they can never admit when they are wrong, or don't know the answer. They just hide. He knows very little about why there is a New Covenant, and the ramifications.

Yes, I did notice the lack of Jesus name in his posts.
 

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Concerning the tefilin (phylacteries) being a requirement:

Mat 23:1, Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mat 23:2, Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3, All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4, For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Mat 23:5, But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
Mat 23:6, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Mat 23:7, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
Mat 23:8, But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
Mat 23:9, And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Mat 23:10, Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Mat 23:11, But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Mat 23:12, And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
 
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Concerning the tefilin (phylacteries) being a requirement:

Mat 23:1, Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mat 23:2, Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3, All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Mat 23:4, For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Mat 23:5, But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
Mat 23:6, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Mat 23:7, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
Mat 23:8, But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
Mat 23:9, And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Mat 23:10, Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Mat 23:11, But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Mat 23:12, And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

The Messiah didn't say that because wearing phylacteries and tzitzit is no longer required, because even the Messiah himself worse tzitzit and phylacteries, but because the Pharisees made theirs wider and longer to seem to appear more righteous. And even in regards to fasting, they did it in such a way to make sure that everyone saw they were fasting. Their obedience was not genuine, they did it for public admiration.
 

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The Messiah didn't say that because wearing phylacteries and tzitzit is no longer required, because even the Messiah himself worse tzitzit and phylacteries, but because the Pharisees made theirs wider and longer to seem to appear more righteous. And even in regards to fasting, they did it in such a way to make sure that everyone saw they were fasting. Their obedience was not genuine, they did it for public admiration.

Jesus was also under the Law of the Old Testament so, of course He, being a true Jew would have to follow the law and hence, He fulfilled the entirety of the Old ways...when He rose, everything changed and the shackles and laws (that man could NEVER keep) were no longer required...be free in Jesus Christ.
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