At the very least, I can at least walk in the truth concerning the matter. And I can pray for what I see I lack if I see my poverty of spirit.
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More like the other way around. We can love others without the anointing of Christ....but we can't love others as Jesus did without His love. We receive His love by entering into Him.
I'm afraid that many have learned to expect the righteousness of God to be as filthy rags just as their own since they can't testify to a power over sin in THAT state. So then they are actually still in their own righteousness and strength but only calling it God's.
So we see by the words of these that they have not yet entered into Christ to take on His attributes of righteousness and holiness. It is like the emperors new clothes...of righteousness. Ministers will say...see you have now the robes of the righteousness of God. But the person is naked and blind still. So we are in the time of the Laodiceans. But who can discern that?
This tales an honesty that is more deep than their indoctrination into error. A righteousness that exceeds that of the Pharisees. Very rare nowadays.
So we see by the words of these that they have not yet entered into Christ to take on His attributes of righteousness and holiness. It is like the emperors new clothes...of righteousness. Ministers will say...see you have now the robes of the righteousness of God. But the person is naked and blind still. So we are in the time of the Laodiceans. But who can discern that?
This tales an honesty that is more deep than their indoctrination into error. A righteousness that exceeds that of the Pharisees. Very rare nowadays.
So we need to abide in Christ and not sin. In Him is no sin. Enter in Him. Walk in Him.
Now if this was easy many would testify of this victory in the resurrection power of Christ. But this is what Paul said he was after.
A good spy who has tasted the power of grace in the promised land of His love will tell you that we can have victory in Christ.
see here lays the problem clarity .several have said a Christian cannot sin..which is %100 wrong.. then later the abiding in Christ the walk with Christ/walk in the spirit is Bible . see this takes discipline all through the power of the spirit . the flesh man will arise to the occasions . we must be on guard as colossians 3 says set your affections on things above.. it also says moriarty the flesh.. none of this is possible w/o being led by the spirit
You are speaking of being led by the Spirit which is not the same as being in the Spirit. If you follow a car in the road it isn't the same thing as being in the car. So it has to do with proximity. A person is yet walking in the power of the flesh even though that person can be following after the Spirit. The miraculous grace and life, however, are only found IN Him.
But I understand that you doubt a closer walk with the Lord as this has gotten "out of style."
so to be saved all i need to do is just Love my neighbor hen the jailer asked this he was told believe on the Lord Jesus Christ you and your family can be saved love your neighbor will follow
being led of the spirit is the same as being in the spirit .. the spirit is dwelling in us.. we have a unction that we may know all things.. you cant be led of the spirit if your not in the spirit ....
just because we get in the flesh does not mean . we are not of the spirit.. what i am saying the flesh can happen we can sin. but the Holy spirit will convict us . if we say the spirit does not convict us of our sins.. would make us illegitimate . it has been a huge battle around here car has been in the shop over 3 weeks. the shop manager gives a song and dance every time you talk to him.. the first quote to fix what they said was the problem . 900.00 i go get it with the Engine code still there. the bill jumped to 1121.00 was there flesh was there anger? yes there was. i did manage to hold my composure only through asking thee Lord to help me . he gave me the spirit the comforter to lead me .plus i have the advocate all that = grace
Actually you can't be led of the Spirit unless Christ be in you. But to enter into Christ is something different. One can be led by the Spirit and still sin. But in the Spirit sin isn't possible. There is no mixture in holiness. One is either holy or not.
"just because we get in the flesh does not mean . we are not of the spirit.."
There is no mixture possible between the flesh and the Spirit. These are at war with each other. So you are either in the flesh...or the Spirit.
You don't believe that Jesus Christ is without sin? Do you realize you are adding sin to Christ?
do you realize how ridiculous some of your questions are? i mean serious we get angry we tend to say unkind words.. the holy spirit convicts we repent. what happened to peter ? the rooster crowed three times on him he denied he cursed . he said i go fishing to Christ . yet o the day of pentecost eh preached 3 thousand souls saved . just as soon as you turn the water into wine.. walk on water..raise the dead like lazareth post a video of it
Episkopos said: let me be clear when we sin do things that the flesh does at that moment w are not operating in the spirit but in the flesh... the Holy spirit comes in reminds us much like the rooster crowing with peter--- conviction to get us back on track ..to remind us of who and what true righteousness is .the who is CHRIST the what is abiding in him which gives us our Righteousness . paul wrote Godly sorrow brings repentance . when God convicts us we we should have the Godly sorrow .not being sorry .peter wrote By his divine power, God has given us everything we need for living a godly life. We have received all of this by coming to know him, the one who called us to himself by means of his marvelous glory and excellence.
ya know what who else would understand better than peter him self.. so lets clear the air there is bit of peter in all of us. brass ready to draw the word to defend Christ And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires. 2 peter 1;3-4 he gave us what we need, its up to us to use it ! its up to us to be the doer not the hearer .
i have much to still learn even after 25 years 20 in the ministry .trust me i have seen much flesh out of Christians over the years.. i blew up in the pulpit at a fierce adversary. she had a jezebel spirit and i lost my cool after several interruptions. so yes each one of us are a work in progress and it never ends
ya know what who else would understand better than peter him self.. so lets clear the air there is bit of peter in all of us. brass ready to draw the word to defend Christ And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires. 2 peter 1;3-4 he gave us what we need, its up to us to use it ! its up to us to be the doer not the hearer .
i have much to still learn even after 25 years 20 in the ministry .trust me i have seen much flesh out of Christians over the years.. i blew up in the pulpit at a fierce adversary. she had a jezebel spirit and i lost my cool after several interruptions. so yes each one of us are a work in progress and it never ends
Hi Ezra,
Those who say that Christians will live 100% sinless, sin themselves. I see it every time. It happens on these forums. Those who espouse such doctrines, it seems, invariably, demonstrate in themselves, by their own posts, that they do not conform to this standard.
I would not be alarmed by such claims, only to pray for those who make them.
Much love!
Christ is the end of the flesh for all they who enter into Him. This is a mystery...even among believers.
It is only in Christ that we have all things that make for fulness in God. Holiness is ONLY available in Him. So we are to walk in Him and be holy as God is holy.
Only God could save that jailor from being put to death because the prisoners were no longer in their cells. The jailor understandably feared for his life. Not just for himself but also his whole family.
But God would protect Him since the jailbreak was orchestrated by God Himself. :)
very well i tried to explain my point but for some odd reason you have to be the one who is correct. i rest my case i have NOTHING ELSE TO POST on matterChrist is the end of the flesh for all they who enter into Him. This is a mystery...even among believers.
It is only in Christ that we have all things that make for fulness in God. Holiness is ONLY available in Him. So we are to walk in Him and be holy as God is holy.
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