Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

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Giuliano

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Which has already happened, because the 2nd beast of Revelation symbolizes the USA, which has already performed great signs in the world through technology, even destroying cities in one moment with atomic bombs, which has caused the world to be in awe. And through that awe, then the world has been deceived into adopting forms of governments like the USA, republics, which is the "image of the beast", and they have also adopted the form of money promulgated to the world by the USA, paper money and fiat currency. Understand people.
I think maybe you need to take the actual words in the Bible more seriously.

Who did the miracle of bringing down fire from heaven?
 

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I think maybe you need to take the actual words in the Bible more seriously.

Who did the miracle of bringing down fire from heaven?

The United States did, through technology. A beast in Daniel and Revelation symbolizes a nation, not a person. Horns symbolize a person, and the two horns of the 2nd beast of Revelation symbolize the President and the Vice President of the United States, for the USA is ruled by two men, for the Vice President is the head of congress, and the President elects judges for the Supreme Court, so indeed the USA is ruled by two horns.
 

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Its precisely why according to prophecy the world will be reduced to very few people, because most people already have the mark of the beast, which symbolizes paper money and fiat currency.

This is interesting. I'm studying Revelations now. It seems as if we're close to the end times.
 
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picture if you will the most technologically advanced nation on the planet, every conceivable convenience, highest avg income of any nation, and all of its believers talking about the end of the world? I gotta ask how could "life" possibly be any worse than believing that the world is somehow about to end? I mean why not just say "I am suicidal?"

i mean dont get me wrong God help me i even share the pov lol...but ima go get some counselling or something, myself. srsly.

46And they will go away into eternal punishment

eternal: agelong
 

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The United States did, through technology. A beast in Daniel and Revelation symbolizes a nation, not a person. Horns symbolize a person, and the two horns of the 2nd beast of Revelation symbolize the President and the Vice President of the United States, for the USA is ruled by two men, for the Vice President is the head of congress, and the President elects judges for the Supreme Court, so indeed the USA is ruled by two horns.
The United States brought fire down from heaven? I'm sorry, but you aren't making any sense to me.
 

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The United States brought fire down from heaven? I'm sorry, but you aren't making any sense to me.

Yes it did, through the use of technology. That is why cities like Heroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed in mere moments, because of the military power of the USA. The signs the 2nd beast of Revelation would do are symbolic of the military power of the USA, which is why it also speaks like a dragon.
 

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Yes it did, through the use of technology. That is why cities like Heroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed in mere moments, because of the military power of the USA. The signs the 2nd beast of Revelation would do are symbolic of the military power of the USA, which is why it also speaks like a dragon.
You appear to have a theory and are adapting details to fit the theory. Calling fire down from heaven is described as a miracle; and Elijah and Solomon did it. We also see James and John suggesting that Jesus call down fire on people. Shouldn't we interpret all these cases in the same way?
 

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This isn't so, because even the book of Revelation says, "it deceived those who dwell on the earth". Deception involves doing something out of ignorance that what you are being told is actually a lie. Like Eve, who was deceived by a lie, and was caused to commit a transgression in ignorance that what she was told was a actually a lie, even though she knew what the command of God was. And it's the same with the mark of the beast, the entire world has been deceived in receiving the mark, and the only thing that sheds light in what the mark of the beast truly is is the command of God in the Torah, "you shall have righteous balances and weights". If the world had known the command of God and the Torah of God, they would have never willfully subjected themselves to this financial system, but because the world does not know nor understand the command, they let themselves be deceived. So actually, the world is more deceived than Eve, because at the very least Eve knew the command, but the world does not even know what God commands in his Torah. A deeper deception, which then causes them to transgress and receive the mark, which then eventually brings wrath and condemnation upon the world.
The deception will be BEYOND the Torah!!
For one take/recieve the MoB, will be that which separates the goats from the sheep. Many in that day (yes, it is still to come), will have sealed their fate unto destruction, with no way back to God, through Jesus! The period of the Age of God's Grace will have ended, as shown in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and Revelation 22
[11] He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
 

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Aka- Rev. 3[10] Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
[11] Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
 

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You appear to have a theory and are adapting details to fit the theory. Calling fire down from heaven is described as a miracle; and Elijah and Solomon did it. We also see James and John suggesting that Jesus call down fire on people. Shouldn't we interpret all these cases in the same way?

No, because the book of Revelation is a book of symbols and visions, with an interpretation. A "beast" in prophecy always symbolizes an entire nation, not 1 literal person. A "horn" on a beast symbolizes 1 literal person. The 2nd beast of Revelation symbolizes 1 nation, ruled by 2 horns, which is the USA. And the signs it was prophesied to do are manifestations of power through technology. It is a greater deception than if the President were walking around giving sight to the blind.
 

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No, because the book of Revelation is a book of symbols and visions, with an interpretation. A "beast" in prophecy always symbolizes an entire nation, not 1 literal person. A "horn" on a beast symbolizes 1 literal person. The 2nd beast of Revelation symbolizes 1 nation, ruled by 2 horns, which is the USA. And the signs it was prophesied to do are manifestations of power through technology. It is a greater deception than if the President were walking around giving sight to the blind.
It's hard to hold a conversation with you. I wasn't talking about the beasts, was I? Can you focus on what I write, or will your mind carry you off again to talk about something else?

You seem to want to talk about almost anything except calling down fire from heaven. It's not atomic bombs since they don't come down from heaven; and I doubt Elijah set off atomic bombs. I also doubt Jesus' disciples were asking him to use atomic bombs.

If you don't want to talk about it, just say so; you're not obliged, but it would be nice if you responded to what I write instead of talking about other things.
 

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No, because the book of Revelation is a book of symbols and visions, with an interpretation. A "beast" in prophecy always symbolizes an entire nation, not 1 literal person. A "horn" on a beast symbolizes 1 literal person. The 2nd beast of Revelation symbolizes 1 nation, ruled by 2 horns, which is the USA. And the signs it was prophesied to do are manifestations of power through technology. It is a greater deception than if the President were walking around giving sight to the blind.
In what you say, is also similar in understanding, as to what God has revealed to me. I agree that the explosion of human technology, since its beginning of 200 years ago, is NOT of human origin. The genius of man, prior to that of the past 6000 years, was barely able to go beyond the common "wheel" and horse drawn buggies.

So then, whose "genius" is it, that has advanced man beyond their simple lifestyle in the last 200 years?
Clue: it was not God the Father, nor the Son!

However, in your discernment and interpretations,
Instead of seeing "horns" as ONLY individuals, try seeing them as being a government(s) working within the Beast(s), especially that of the US and the Europian UNION.
 

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It's hard to hold a conversation with you. I wasn't talking about the beasts, was I? Can you focus on what I write, or will your mind carry you off again to talk about something else?

You seem to want to talk about almost anything except calling down fire from heaven. It's not atomic bombs since they don't come down from heaven; and I doubt Elijah set off atomic bombs. I also doubt Jesus' disciples were asking him to use atomic bombs.

If you don't want to talk about it, just say so; you're not obliged, but it would be nice if you responded to what I write instead of talking about other things.

The context of this conversation is the 2nd beast of Revelation, which is called "false prophet". I am explaining to you why it is a nation, not a person, because the book of Revelation is a book of symbols, and because "beasts" in prophecy always symbolically refer to nations, not individual persons. Therefore, the signs that were prophesied to happen through that specific nation, which is the USA, happened through technology, as we have seen in history. Nuclear weapons are a great sign of power, and has been manifested to the world through the USA, fulfilling prophecy, causing the world to be in awe of the USA. The signs the USA does are not same as the signs the prophets did, which were done through the power of God. The signs the USA does is through the knowledge of man, which has been heightened, creating a delusion that man is powerful because of the technology it has developed, which is why these particular signs are more deceptive than if the President were walking around giving sight to the blind, because man is glorified, not God.
 

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The United States brought fire down from heaven? I'm sorry, but you aren't making any sense to me.
Because you view everything with your "religious" glasses on, you forgot (or can't see) that satan deals through the physical reality of this world and its empires.
 

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The context of this conversation is the 2nd beast of Revelation, which is called "false prophet". I am explaining to you why it is a nation, not a person, because the book of Revelation is a book of symbols, and because "beasts" in prophecy always symbolically refer to nations, not individual persons. Therefore, the signs that were prophesied to happen through that specific nation, which is the USA, happened through technology, as we have seen in history. Nuclear weapons are a great sign of power, and has been manifested to the world through the USA, fulfilling prophecy, causing the world to be in awe of the USA. The signs the USA does are not same as the signs the prophets did, which were done through the power of God. The signs the USA does is through the knowledge of man, which has been heightened, creating a delusion that man is powerful because of the technology it has developed, which is why these particular signs are more deceptive than if the President were walking around giving sight to the blind, because man is glorified, not God.
GC, why are you ignoring me?
 

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Because you view everything with your "religious" glasses on, you forgot (or can't see) that satan deals through the physical reality of this world and its empires.
What are you talking about now? You can't read my mind, and you're not good at guessing what I think. I hope you don't think the Holy Spirit is informing you about my thoughts. I believe that Satan uses the things of this world as traps and tools. Money and earthly power are things he uses. Indeed the threat of not being able to buy or to sell without the mark of the beast shows exactly how he can use money to apply pressure; but he also uses lying signs and wonders.

What I am saying (and it seems everyone else is ignoring) is that calling fire down from heaven is a miracle. Revelation calls it a miracle, so why pretend it's something earthly like an atom bomb?
 
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What are you talking about now? You can't read my mind, and you're not good at guessing what I think. I hope you don't think the Holy Spirit is informing you about my thoughts. I believe that Satan uses the things of this world as traps and tools. Money and earthly power are things he uses. Indeed the threat of not being able to buy or to sell without the mark of the beast shows exactly how he can use money to apply pressure; but he also uses lying signs and wonders.

What I am saying (and it seems everyone else is ignoring) is that calling fire down from heaven is a miracle. Revelation calls it a miracle, so why pretend it's something earthly like an atom bomb?
Not many people really put much stock in faith in and toward God. They may often will use the word "faith" in their discussions or explanations, but they lean too heavily on their own understanding or the understanding of other men... usually carnal men. Their first faith, their primary trust, is not in God.

Science in itself is not an evil thing, nor are many of the other areas where men have supposedly excelled without trusting God, but many who use these alternate faiths have missed the highway of holiness without even knowing it. This is commonly, if not always, delusion, because they really do not love God... no matter what they say with their mouths.
 
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