Are Protestants "saved? "

[amadeus]

Why does exegesis sound so much like "exit Jesus"?

And...You can't get into hermeneutical 2nd gear unless you do a paradigm shift.

 

[Episkopos]

I can imagine these guys all having mullets. maybe it's just me... ;)

 

[amadeus]

The concoction comes from the reformation...with all the protests against the truth and God ultimately...and all this added into a protest against Catholic excesses.

So the devil piggy-backed all these heresies on top of a legitimate beef against a worldly church. And many were none the wiser for it.

The truth IS a dialectic...for any honest reader of the bible. The truth is like a wheel within a wheel and a double edged sword.

But many who protest the truth now with a man-made fundamentalism are going to find the sweet taste they derive now in their mouths will become eternally bitter when it reaches the stage of having to be processed within.

So the devil piggy-backed all these heresies on top of a legitimate beef against a worldly church. And many were none the wiser for it..

Hmm Hmm!

 

[Renniks]

All the

OK so who is giving up Calvinism for Lent?

Not all Protestants are Calvinists.
Would we be better offto still be paying indulgences to supposedly get our loved ones out of a purgatory that never really existed?

 

[Renniks]

They who walk under grace don't sin...and they can't sin...because they are walking by a higher law...the law of the Spirit. So then Protestantism is based on CLAIMING to escape the law...while still being under sin.

Hence the lack of honesty among it's practitioners.

If you say you don't sin, you are the one not being honest.

 

[Episkopos]

If you say you don't sin, you are the one not being honest.

Spoken like true Protestant. So then you are not claiming to be in Christ and still sinning?

In Christ is no sin. That's the truth in the bible.

the reformation changed that to...in Christ you still sin. And...the wages of sin is life!

Theological question: Do you have a mullet?

 

[marks]

Sometimes I wonder why some responses are posted, as they completely sidestep that which they purport to be responding to.

I think it was Solomon . . . gifted with wisdom and knowledge beyond the rest . . . "For there is no man that sins not . . ."

 

[stunnedbygrace]

there is no man that sins not . . ."

Except a man who abides in Christ.

 

[Nancy]

Of the men with the talents, none were judged for their sins, but for what they did with what they were given. One was cast into outer darkness. Is that an award or prize?

Well, there is that . Yet...I'm not at all settled as to what "outer darkness" is! We can also look at the Prodigal...he was certainly not a good steward of his inheritance, yet welcomed with open arms.
I'm more looking at this spiritually. Like if God gifts us with certain well, talents! - they should always be used to further the Kingdom of God.

 

[Nancy]

I can imagine these guys all having mullets. maybe it's just me... ;)

Ahahaha! I bet YOU had one!

 

[marks]

Except a man who abides in Christ.

At all times that he is so abiding. And this doesn't change Solomon's words. Not mine. Quoted from the Bible. People do sin.

Works based salvation theology is antithetical to spiritual life. Law increases sin. Living according to the knowledge of good and evil, when we can be living according to Life Himself.

Much love!

 

[Episkopos]

Ahahaha! I bet YOU had one!

I have started a thread on the theological ramifications of the mullet. I confess that in my younger years mullets appeared to be so benign. Little did I know!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Well, there is that . Yet...I'm not at all settled as to what "outer darkness" is! We can also look at the Prodigal...he was certainly not a good steward of his inheritance, yet welcomed with open arms.

I don't know much about the outer darkness except that men will weep and grind their teeth in anger there and that to be thrown in the lake of fire would be more merciful.

 

[Nancy]

I don't know much about the outer darkness except that men will weep and grind their teeth in anger there and that to be thrown in the lake of fire would be more merciful.

"to be thrown in the lake of fire would be more merciful."
WORD!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

At all times that he is so abiding. And this doesn't change Solomon's words. Not mine. Quoted from the Bible. People do sin.

Works based salvation theology is antithetical to spiritual life. Law increases sin. Living according to the knowledge of good and evil, when we can be living according to Life Himself.

Much love!

Abiding in Him is not works of the law.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

"to be thrown in the lake of fire would be more merciful."
WORD!

So it will be more tolerable for Sodom on that day than it will be for some religious men.

 

[Episkopos]

Abiding in Him is not works of the law.

We establish the law by abiding in Him...as does the faith OF Jesus Christ.

Faith establishes the law.

Rom. 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

 

[marks]

Abiding in Him is not works of the law.

Absolute agreement!

 

[Nancy]

I have started a thread on the theological ramifications of the mullet. I confess that in my younger years mullets appeared to be so benign. Little did I know!

I KNEW it, lol...I can see you with one! Have you gotten rid of the pictures?

 

[Episkopos]

I KNEW it, lol...I can see you with one! Have you gotten rid of the pictures?

At that point it was no longer me...it was the mullet making me do things.