Are Protestants "saved? "

[stunnedbygrace]

Undone with laughter here.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Don't you dare post an actual picture or all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put me back together again!!

 

[Episkopos]

Don't you dare post an actual picture or all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put me back together again!!

I wouldn't dare. This is a respectable site after all. Certain stylistic standards should be maintained. AND...we haven't yet determined if a person can have a mullet and still be saved. (Maybe if the fact that he's a Calvinist is thrown into the mix??? )

And now the issue of stubbies has arisen in the other thread. can a believer be taken seriously wearing stubbies?

 

[Nancy]

At that point it was no longer me...it was the mullet making me do things.

 

[Nancy]

Don't you dare post an actual picture or all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to put me back together again!!

Hahaha...you just cannot un-see a thing sometimes...and even without a pic, I can see Epi in a mullett!

 

[Nancy]

I wouldn't dare. This is a respectable site after all. Certain stylistic standards should be maintained. AND...we haven't yet determined if a person can have a mullet and still be saved. (Maybe if the fact that he's a Calvanist is thrown into the mix??? )

And now the issue of stubbies has arisen in the other thread. can a believer be taken seriously wearing stubbies?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I just messaged you a Schnauzer with a mullet Nancy. On facebook.

 

[Renniks]

Spoken like true Protestant. So then you are not claiming to be in Christ and still sinning?

In Christ is no sin. That's the truth in the bible.

the reformation changed that to...in Christ you still sin. And...the wages of sin is life!

Theological question: Do you have a mullet?

I don't currently have a mullet. You can claim to be sinless if you wish. Of course, that claim is a sin in itself. Why do Catholics go to confession if they don't sin?

 

[DNB]

Does God prefer one religious bent to another? Or is that about us?

As in.."I can believe anything I want based on a verse taken out of context"

I personally think that everything that we believe, reflects what's in our hearts. i.e. 'a liar thinks everyone else is lying, because that is what he would do in the same situation'.
Thus, all the tenets and doctrines that we profess, expose how we interpret Scripture, and how we ultimately feel what type of character that God is.
No one creates a rule book, and expects people to interpret as they like, or misinterpret, because both approaches are offensive to the legislator.
For example, for people to think that I am lax or liberal on drug or sex issues, would be offensive to me.
Thus, be wise in what you accept to be God-given truth, it may say more about where your heart is at, than His.

 

[Nancy]

I just messaged you a Schnauzer with a mullet Nancy. On facebook.

Yes, I got it on messenger, lol...sent one back

 

[Episkopos]

I don't currently have a mullet.

Well you do have that going for you...

 

[Taken]

Well put @Taken
Why would be Christians be judged for their "sin" as, that would undo what Christ did.
Judging as to "awards" and "prizes" is a whole nuther thing!

Agree.

God creates mankind...Then: waits "for"
the ALL important "IF"...
"IF"...a man exercises his Freewill to "choose" the Lord God...
"THEN"...the Lord God WILL, "MAKE", that individual Reconcilled unto Him...
"ONCE"... and Forever.

We don't "reward" our children for being naturally "born"...

We correct, reward, punish our children for their "Behavior"..."after they are born".

Our Example; the Lord God, does the Same.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Protestantism is based on a misunderstanding of the gospel...all kidding aside. Grace by faith is HOW holy people walk like Jesus in the world.

I guess your bold, was written as if you were expressing the thought of an anti- Protestant?

Luther:
...the basic level appears he was a Catholic following along with Catholic Doctrine, then actually Read the Scriptures, and challenged the conflict...and inanutshell was bad-mouthed personally by "Catholics", for Not trusting "Catholic" men "over and above" the Lord God.

The honesty...or lack thereof, IMO, hinges a great deal on ... in a word...Brainwashing.
From a young age that ^ technique is superb.

Listen to a Catholics Declarations: based on "their" C-Doctrine.

("The Only True Church is Catholic;
The Clerics of the CC Church are the sole authority.
The C-Doctrine is all that is necessary.
The C-Church is built upon Peter, who IS the rock of the C-Church.
The C-"holy father", is an "elected", infallible human man.
Mary was human, born without sin.
Mary birthed Jesus, from her human DNA, thus Jesus IS human, and like his "mother", also without sin.
Mary is the mother of GOD.
Mary is the "intercessory" for common peons, to send prayers of requests to God.
Little babies BAPTIZED with WATER, (without their knowledge, consent, affirmation or Word of Belief, ) ARE given the indwelling Holy Spirit of God.
Salvation is given a man, but the man does not receive Salvation, until the end of his natural life...and receiving Salvation is "contingent" upon his behavior/works.
Statues- are a beautiful work of Art, (man has made to depict persons never seen by the "artist")...bowing before a statue, kissing a statue, praying before a statue...is not praying TO a statue, but rather honoring that person the statue represents...and asking "them" to "intercede" on your behalf, and take your request TO God.
Because "the Saved" are not really Saved, until the End of their natural life...they must "wait" in some "secret place the call purgatory"...until God gets around to purifying them with Fire. (In the mean-time, C's should pray for "them in waiting", so God will get to getting and Save "them"....)

The List goes ON and ON.

None of those things are Verified in Jesus' Doctrine.

And Luther, asked for "clarification"...to be shown How the C-Doctrine was in "harmony" with Jesus' Doctrine...
The result from the C-C?
Inanutshell...ignore him..(oops, too many people are listening to him), grant him an appearance to state his challenge in person,
Ignore his challenge, dismiss him, label him personally with derragatory name calling, continue teaching C-Doctrine and impress the need NEED for "Brainwashing" from the cradle.

Not much different than, what occurs on this forum between Catholics, (whose C-Doctrine is sacred) and Sav-ED and Born Again Christian Gentiles and Messanic Jews Whose sacred Doctrine is Jesus Doctrine.

It is TWO Different Doctrines.
It is TWO Different Truths.
It is TWO Different Teachings.

Rom 1:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

What began as a PROTEST against C-Doctrine, imo, has evolved to...READ for yourself, the Lords Doctrine and choose you this day to Believe it or not, regardless of what the Catholics do.

 

[Episkopos]

I guess your bold, was written as if you were expressing the thought of an anti- Protestant?

Luther:
...the basic level appears he was a Catholic following along with Catholic Doctrine, then actually Read the Scriptures, and challenged the conflict...and inanutshell was bad-mouthed personally by "Catholics", for Not trusting "Catholic" men "over and above" the Lord God.

The honesty...or lack thereof, IMO, hinges a great deal on ... in a word...Brainwashing.
From a young age that ^ technique is superb.

Listen to a Catholics Declarations: based on "their" C-Doctrine.

("The Only True Church is Catholic;
The Clerics of the CC Church are the sole authority.
The C-Doctrine is all that is necessary.
The C-Church is built upon Peter, who IS the rock of the C-Church.
The C-"holy father", is an "elected", infallible human man.
Mary was human, born without sin.
Mary birthed Jesus, from her human DNA, thus Jesus IS human, and like his "mother", also without sin.
Mary is the mother of GOD.
Mary is the "intercessory" for common peons, to send prayers of requests to God.
Little babies BAPTIZED with WATER, (without their knowledge, consent, affirmation or Word of Belief, ) ARE given the indwelling Holy Spirit of God.
Salvation is given a man, but the man does not receive Salvation, until the end of his natural life...and receiving Salvation is "contingent" upon his behavior/works.
Statues- are a beautiful work of Art, (man has made to depict persons never seen by the "artist")...bowing before a statue, kissing a statue, praying before a statue...is not praying TO a statue, but rather honoring that person the statue represents...and asking "them" to "intercede" on your behalf, and take your request TO God.
Because "the Saved" are not really Saved, until the End of their natural life...they must "wait" in some "secret place the call purgatory"...until God gets around to purifying them with Fire. (In the mean-time, C's should pray for "them in waiting", so God will get to getting and Save "them"....)

The List goes ON and ON.

None of those things are Verified in Jesus' Doctrine.

And Luther, asked for "clarification"...to be shown How the C-Doctrine was in "harmony" with Jesus' Doctrine...
The result from the C-C?
Inanutshell...ignore him..(oops, too many people are listening to him), grant him an appearance to state his challenge in person,
Ignore his challenge, dismiss him, label him personally with derragatory name calling, continue teaching C-Doctrine and impress the need NEED for "Brainwashing" from the cradle.

Not much different than, what occurs on this forum between Catholics, (whose C-Doctrine is sacred) and Sav-ED and Born Again Christian Gentiles and Messanic Jews Whose sacred Doctrine is Jesus Doctrine.

It is TWO Different Doctrines.
It is TWO Different Truths.
It is TWO Different Teachings.

Rom 1:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

What began as a PROTEST against C-Doctrine, imo, has evolved to...READ for yourself, the Lords Doctrine and choose you this day to Believe it or not, regardless of what the Catholics do.

One error doesn't beg for another error to replace it. So the devil is laying a shell game with mankind. But it's all errors. We think we have to choose one. But just like politics...we can avoid the errors altogether and look up to God.

All the ways of men are corrupt. Only the naive don't realize that. Blessed is he that trusts in the Lord. But a curse on they who trust in men...like the original national socialist...Luther.

So we need not protest. We need to stop looking around us and start to look up.

 

[Taken]

One error doesn't beg for another error to replace it. So the devil is laying a shell game with mankind. But it's all errors. We think we have to choose one. But just like politics...we can avoid the errors altogether and look up to God.

All the ways of men are corrupt. Only the naive don't realize that. Blessed is he that trusts in the Lord. But a curse on they who trust in men...like the original national socialist...Luther.

So we need not protest. We need to stop looking around us and start to look up.

I have said inasmuch the same...
Yet it seems as if we are in disagreement?

 

[Taken]

One error doesn't beg for another error to replace it.

Expose the specific "errorS" you speak of.

But a curse on they who trust in men...like the original national socialist...Luther.

What is your meaning of a "national socialist"?

 

[r1xlx]

At what point in the evolutionary scale of being a Protestant do we get to damn others to hell? Is that a privilege of clergy only because of certain college courses...or can a layman also enjoy this privilege?

Any Christian who can read the Bible can condemn all non-believers who fall foul of 1 Corithians 6:9 Revelation 22:15 or Commandments 1,2 etc.

 

[Episkopos]

Any Christian who can read the Bible can condemn all non-believers who fall foul of 1 Corithians 6:9 Revelation 22:15 or Commandments 1,2 etc.

So you are espousing being a judge of the world? Whereas Paul said that we are not to judge they who are outside the church.

Are you not also a sinner...a sinner who judges others as sinners/ Are you not simply condemning yourself to whatever end you judge others into? Will you not fall into your own trap?

 

[r1xlx]

We are to be judged by our works.

And being a Christian believer given the gift of discernment by holy spirit I can say that Episkpos is a false Christian -a veritable wolf in sheep's clothing for his prattlings.
Commandment 2 tells us that all Catholics, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, JWs, etc are doomed to destruction when Jesus returns - although obviously when these Last Days get more obvious many may realise they are worshipping Satan's imaginary gods and turn to seek GOD and Jesus.
I've actually been taken to court and labelled a criminal for tying to preach to Gospel to Muslims.

 

[r1xlx]

WE are told to rebuke and reprove - that must mean we can judge what a person says and does?