Are Protestants "saved? "

[Marymog]

Since the leaders of the Catholic Church have been deliberately deceiving their church members for ages, it should be clear that they cannot be trusted. Their authority is bogus since it is not in keeping with Scripture.

Fascinating.....The CC has not been keeping with Scripture??? Do tell: Which church has been keeping with Scripture?

Sounds like your theory is that the thousands of Catholics that disagree with the leadership of the Church should be able to conduct a coup and change doctrine. What will the billion other Catholics think of that? Do they have any say in the matter?

Curious Mary

 

[Marymog]

I loved your answer, not because you agreed with me, but because of the scriptures you quoted and YOU AGREED WITH GOD.

The Scriptures he quoted agreed with God??? Says WHO???? YOU????

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

The Scriptures he quoted agreed with God??? Says WHO???? YOU????

I LOVE YOU TOO SWEETHEART

 

[Enoch111]

What will the billion other Catholics think of that?

Ideally they should simply WALK AWAY from the Catholic Church.

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

I don't understand why so many people are worrying about and discussing which faiths will be saved.

Jesus has already answered those questions - FEW...of any faith will be saved.
Matthew 7:13-14, and Luke 13: 23-24.
and for me the topper for me is Matthew 7:21.

Instead of worrying about all those others being saved, I think I would be making sure I was in good stead with God, seeing he said FEW, that would worry me, as it does myself.

The word "SAVED" is a totally misunderstood word and misunderstood condition of the Christian, and a misunderstood PROCESS that goes back to the verses I listed here..

God bless you, even if you criticize me or rip into me.
My name is OLIGOS

 

[Yehren]

The Scriptures he quoted agreed with God??? Says WHO???? YOU????

I was citing Jesus here:
Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law? [37] Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. [38] This is the greatest and the first commandment. [39] And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [40] On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.

I didn't intend to disparage the faith of anyone else here; far as I can tell, everyone here follows the two great commandments.

 

[historyb]

Are Protestants "saved? "

According to what takes place here and if one considers these people here protestants, that the answer is an unequivocal no, they are pagan at best.

 

[Yehren]

God saves who He will, and belonging to the right denomination is not one of the criteria.

When He separates the sheep from the goats, some of the saved will be puzzled and ask when they did anything for Him. Obviously, those will be non-Christians, else they would know when.

 

[Taken]

Ummmm.....it doesn't matter what "all" of those individual people believe. CLEARLY we are talking about the doctrine of each individual denomination.

Soooo your statement that my "theory is funny" is bizarre since I did not submit a theory.

Ya, well neither did I, but you can call what I say a theory, and I replied the same to you.

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

God saves who He will, and belonging to the right denomination is not one of the criteria.

When He separates the sheep from the goats, some of the saved will be puzzled and ask when they did anything for Him. Obviously, those will be non-Christians, else they would know when.

You do know God is pretty narrow minded about who he saves and there is a pretty strict criteria for being in His "CLUB".
Ist Peter 4:18 , "For if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved,
what will become of the Godless man and the sinner?"

There is "O" chance a non-Christian will be in heaven.
That's what this entire Christian thing is about and why it's discussed so much.

Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus said, 13) "Enter by the NARROW GATE into heaven, for the gate is broad that leads to hell and many are those who enter by it.
14) For the gate to heaven is small, and the way to heaven is extremely narrow and FEW are those who enter by it."

YEHREN - Whether your searching or a new believer, may God bless you as you seek for HIS truth.
My name is OLIGOS

 

[Taken]

Really?? YOU have the Truth??

Really! Yes I have the TRUTH.

John 14:
[6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way and the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Why should Christians go to anyone else but YOU in search of the Truth???

Why would you come to me for WHAT I Have?
Are you a Catholic and a democrat?

Go to the Source IF you want The TRUTH!

Either you are being facetious or you are very arrogant.

You are appearing very ignorant of who Jesus is.

 

[Yehren]

There is "O" chance a non-Christian will be in heaven.

That's not what God says. If that was right, no one before Jesus lived on Earth, is in heaven.

YEHREN - Whether your searching or a new believer, may God bless you as you seek for HIS truth.

I put my faith in Him about 63 years ago. Being a Christian isn't a trip to a location; it's a continuous process of growth in Christ, that seems to last a lifetime. Or at least it has in my case. As you go, more and more of His truth will be yours. Trust me on this.

 

[Episkopos]

You do know God is pretty narrow minded about who he saves and there is a pretty strict criteria for being in His "CLUB".
Ist Peter 4:18 , "For if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved,
what will become of the Godless man and the sinner?"

Or rather it is you filtering God through your mind to arrive at that. God is NOT narrow minded. And the club is a human club that claims to know all about God.

There is "O" chance a non-Christian will be in heaven.
That's what this entire Christian thing is about and why it's discussed so much.

Quite the opposite. You seem to have an exactly backwards way of seeing things....so at least there is a consistency.

What your beliefs are is not important. It's about what you DO. Look at the parable of the 2 sons. Which did the will of the father? Now take it from there.

The meek will indeed inherit the earth. No belief system is attached to that. Unless you are wanting to change the bible to fit your mindset.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Does God prefer one religious bent to another? Or is that about us?

As in.."I can believe anything I want based on a verse taken out of context"

Its not about what church we go to

Its about what Gospel we place our faith in.

 

[Yehren]

Its about what Gospel we place our faith in.

Let's see what God says:
Matthew 25:34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’


37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’


40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’


41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’


44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’


45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

That's how He says He will choose. I believe Him.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Let's see what God says:
Matthew 25:34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’


37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’


40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’


41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’


44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’


45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

That's how He says He will choose. I believe Him.

Well thanks

You just showed WHO Gods people are.

But you did not show HOW they Got to be Gods kids

We are saved by grace through faith apart from works. Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but by his mercy’

You use showed us a bunch of works of righteousness, which Gods people do.. But paul makes it clear. That is NOT why they were saved.

Abraham was righteous because God declared him righteous on his faith. Abraham PROVED his faith by doing all the works he did. But he also PROVED his sin fullness by al the sins he committed.

 

[Yehren]

We are saved by grace through faith apart from works. Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but by his mercy’

Well, let's see what God says...

James 2:24You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Here's what God thinks of faith apart from works:

James 2:17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?

Even works, required as they are, are merely evidence of that which really matters to God:

1 Corinthians 13:1 I think I'll go with God's opinion. Even works are merely manifestations of that which really matters to God:
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

The two great commandments make it explicitly clear what will save you:

Matther 22:37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. 38 This is the greatest and the first commandment. 39And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.

So very simple, and yet so hard for man to do. That is what God's grace is for, which is free for the asking. Pray for it, and follow him, not some modern revision of His words.

 

[Renniks]

I don't understand why so many people are worrying about and discussing which faiths will be saved.

Jesus has already answered those questions - FEW...of any faith will be saved.
Matthew 7:13-14, and Luke 13: 23-24.
and for me the topper for me is Matthew 7:21.

Instead of worrying about all those others being saved, I think I would be making sure I was in good stead with God, seeing he said FEW, that would worry me, as it does myself.

The word "SAVED" is a totally misunderstood word and misunderstood condition of the Christian, and a misunderstood PROCESS that goes back to the verses I listed here..

God bless you, even if you criticize me or rip into me.
My name is OLIGOS

I think you misunderstand who the few are. Jesus is the narrow way, he's the gate, those who don't enter are left out because they tried to enter some other way than through him.

 

[reformed1689]

At what point in the evolutionary scale of being a Protestant do we get to damn others to hell? Is that a privilege of clergy only because of certain college courses...or can a layman also enjoy this privilege?

When they change the Gospel.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Well, let's see what God says...

James 2:24You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

yep if one claims to have faith but never did a work can that type of faith (mere belief) save them? No

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Yep and what is the will of God? Whoever believes in the name of Jesus will pass from Death to life (John 6)

Here's what God thinks of faith apart from works:

James 2:17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?

Even works, required as they are, are merely evidence of that which really matters to God

Yet romans 4 says no works. James is talking to hearers not doers. He does not contradict Paul

1 Corinthians 13:1 I think I'll go with God's opinion. Even works are merely manifestations of that which really matters to God:
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

The two great commandments make it explicitly clear what will save you:

Matther 22:37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind. 38 This is the greatest and the first commandment. 39And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.

So very simple, and yet so hard for man to do. That is what God's grace is for, which is free for the asking. Pray for it, and follow him, not some modern revision of His words.

I think I will go with reality

we are saved by grace through faith not works. But faith is never alone

no work you do will cause god to forgive one sin if you think so. You will get a rude awakening one day