Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Reggie Belafonte]

WRONG.
Jesus was ALWAYS human. The Son wasn't.

The Son always existed eternally with the Father. When He was manifested in the flesh and came to earth as the Man-God (Theanthropos), He was named "Jesus" - and Mary is His mother. She gave birth to the Man-God - not just a man.

Emmanuel is who Jesus was, God with us !

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The son ( Jesus) (Immanuel- God with us) exists forever and has no mother.

Rubbish ! Immanuel is Jesus in the flesh !

 

[Taken]

So are LIES, apparently, to some . . .

You think LIES are fun to some....?

I wouldn't know about that...but thanks for sharing your expertise. Personal Experience?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Like I've been saying ALL along:
Either you believe that Jesus is God - or you don't.

If Jesus isn't God and is just a human - then there is NO issue. Mary is the other of just another a human.
HOWEVER - if Jesus IS God and He was born of Mary - then she IS His mother.

You can't have it BOTH ways . . .

Jesus is what he does, he saves and he is our Lord and Saviour.

 

[GAEParks]

Mary did not have any children other than Jesus and there is not a single verse in the bible that says she did.
And nobody has produced one.

Quoting verses that do not say she had other children is not evidence that she did.

There is nothing that supports any fact that Mary had any other children other than Jesus. She was rendered a perpetual virgin somewhere around the 3rd century and was received into Heaven by means of assumption. The other siblings of Jesus was from Joseph's earlier wife who died after giving birth to James, Joses, Simon, Jude...there are some documentation that states there were also two girls Salome and Anna. Mary had one Child...Jesus.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I don't have it Both Ways.
Jesus Christ IS God,
Jesus IS Not a Human.
Jesus appeared, in the Likeness as a man.

God is without Beginning.
God has no mommy or daddy.

Mary was a human.

This has been discussed in depth with you, with Verifying Scriptures.

Glory to God,
Taken

NOW, we're getting somewhere . . .

You admit that Jesus is GOD.
And I have also shown YOU some "verifying Scriptures" that Mary is His mother (John 2:1, John 19:26-27, Luke 1:31).

Case closed.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You think LIES are fun to some....?
I wouldn't know about that...but thanks for sharing your expertise. Personal Experience?

Glory to God,
Taken

Apparently they ARE - because YOU seem to be having a blast . . .

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

No - tragedy is in actually thinking that faith is "belief".
Unfortunately for YOU - the Bible disagrees with this Protestant perversion.

James 2:19 tells us that even the DEMONS believe in the truths about God. If ALL you do is "believe" - then you are NO better off than they are.
TRUE faith = Belief + Obedience (Works).

It's not faith AND works.
Works/obedience are an essential element of Faith.

Them works are in Christ Jesus working in us and he is given glory for such, not us as our works are but filthy rags.
Faith without the works in Christ Jesus are but filthy rags.
Faith alone is not Faith in God at all, as such can be delusions, one must have faith that can move mountains, that equals total conviction in Jesus Christ.

 

[Taken]

As I stated earlier - being neck-deep in heresy yourself - you can't really understand . . .

I am well aware of your regurtation of Catholic Doctrine and Scripture is secondary to Consider.

Your so called "Heresy"...is of no consequence to me. By the way...it wasn't to Paul either!!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Apparently they ARE - because YOU seem to be having a blast . . .

Shocking...if someone is not on your bandwagon you think them a liar...

Nothing new...^ That has been discussed so many times on this forum, it is your reputation here.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

I am well aware of your regurtation of Catholic Doctrine and Scripture is secondary to Consider.

Your so called "Heresy"...is of no consequence to me. By the way...it wasn't to Paul either!!

Glory to God,
Taken

That's because Paul didn't espouse heresy - but you DO.
Yours is an old heresy called "Sabbelianism (Modalism)".

 

[BreadOfLife]

Shocking...if someone is not on your bandwagon you think them a liar...

Nothing new...^ That has been discussed so many times on this forum, it is your reputation here.

Glory to God,
Taken

I never accuse people who disagree with me of lying.
I only accuse those who LIE of lying.

 

[Renniks]

Rubbish ! Immanuel is Jesus in the flesh !

Of course he is. Where did I say otherwise?

 

[Renniks]

I never accuse people who disagree with me of lying.
I only accuse those who LIE of lying.

Which according to you, would be everyone who disagrees with you.

 

[Grailhunter]

This is absolutely false.
WHO told you this nonsense??

Usually the Pope is the one that decree this. And Official doctrine means only official today.

The Latin phrase extra Ecclesiam nulla salus means "outside the Church there is no salvation". The 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church explained this as "all salvation ... Each one,...shall be saved by his own righteousness,...those who regulated their lives by the law of Moses would in like manner be saved...Since those ...


Sep 6, 2000 - A new Vatican dictum issued today declares that individuals can attain full salvation from earthly sin only through the spiritual grace of the Catholic Church and that other faiths--including Protestant Christian ones--have defects that place their followers in a "gravely deficient situation" in seeking salvation.

 

[Paul Christensen]

That's NOT what the Bible says . . .

John 2:1
And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and THE MOTHER OF JESUS was there.

John 19:26-27
When JESUS SAW HIS MOTHER there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman, here is your son,” and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.”

Luke 1:31
And behold, YOU WILL CONCEIVE IN YOUR WOMB and bear a son, and YOU shall call his name Jesus.

YOUR problem is with the Word of GOD - not with me . . .

There is the story about the preacher who left his notes behind in the pulpit and the cleaner discovered them. She noticed that some part were underlined, and margin notes were "lift a hand here", "strike the pulpit here", "include an anecdote here". and she saw a whole section heavily underlined in red, and the margin note read, "SHOUT FOR ALL YOU'RE WORTH. ARGUMENT VERY WEAK!"

 

[Paul Christensen]

Usually the Pope is the one that decree this. And Official doctrine means only official today.

The Latin phrase extra Ecclesiam nulla salus means "outside the Church there is no salvation". The 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church explained this as "all salvation ... Each one,...shall be saved by his own righteousness,...those who regulated their lives by the law of Moses would in like manner be saved...Since those ...


Sep 6, 2000 - A new Vatican dictum issued today declares that individuals can attain full salvation from earthly sin only through the spiritual grace of the Catholic Church and that other faiths--including Protestant Christian ones--have defects that place their followers in a "gravely deficient situation" in seeking salvation.

Clear as the nose on your face, and you didn't have to shout it either!

Anyone who has to shout repeated denials shows that they are struggling with viable answers to reasonable questions and statements. Even after you have quoted the actual words of the pope, the denials will continue to come.

My dad was very astute in spotting when I have told a lie. He said that when I went into some complicated explanation to explain an action, he knew that I was lying to cover up what I had actually done.

 

[Grailhunter]

Clear as the nose on your face, and you didn't have to shout it either!

Anyone who has to shout repeated denials shows that they are struggling with viable answers to reasonable questions and statements. Even after you have quoted the actual words of the pope, the denials will continue to come.

My dad was very astute in spotting when I have told a lie. He said that when I went into some complicated explanation to explain an action, he knew that I was lying to cover up what I had actually done.

So what you mean is?

 

[Paul Christensen]

So what you mean is?

I didn't mean you! I said this for you, not at you!
My point is to give my attitude to anyone who uses excessive bold, and large coloured bold fonts to belt us over the head with their shonky views!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Which according to you, would be everyone who disagrees with you.

Absolutely false.
We can have a civil discussion where we disagree. I've had plenty of those.

Just don't lie - and I won't have to expose you.