Are You Free From The Law?

[Cooper]

2 Timothy 3:16 King James Version (KJV)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


Does that in any way detract from the Elohim/God Inspired Hebrew Scriptures/Old Testament?

Scripture, tells us Moses killed/murdered thousands. Take off your blinkers and learn from the inspired Word of God.
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[Elihoenai]

You can't agree with both when they are in direct conflict with each other.

Paul circumcised Timothy!

 

[Cooper]

You haven't answered the question. Do you believe in British Israelism?

I do not believe Britain is Israel. Look at the map.
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[Elihoenai]

In many places the Mitzvah Laws contridict the 10 commandments, so no they are not given by the almighty, but by the god of the Jews.
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Is there a contradiction or could it be that you lack understanding?

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[Elihoenai]

Both Old and New Testaments portray the Jews as a wicked people.
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@Cooper, are you any better than the Jewish people that you are judging, scorning and condemning?

 

[Cooper]

Is there a contradiction or could it be that you lack understanding?

"Who Can Know the Mind of God?"

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I'm not wasting time looking at your sources. I'm not the one who is confused. Clearly the Jews were not following the I AM who said not to murder, and the Jews still do not worship the I AM.

 

[Cooper]

@Cooper, are you any better than the Jewish people that you are judging, scorning and condemning?

I am a sinner saved by grace, the Jews as a people, have yet to come to that place.

 

[Elihoenai]

Jesus went through the motions of keeping the law, which he was soon to end, otherwise he would not have been allowed to teach in the Temple, where he explained the error of their ways, and taught from the Torah, saying to follow Him.
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Yeshua/Jesus practices the Law of Moses in complete devotion to the will of the Father.

 

[Waiting on him]

Like this ? >>>

Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word (a continuous stream of words) that proceeds from the mouth of God. ?

Okay, are you suggesting that the Bible is the mouth of God?

 

[Elihoenai]

But you can't. The sacrificial system no longer exists.
Plus, we are told numerous times in scripture that we can not be saved by the law, but only by faith in Yeshua. Paul goes so far as to say that being under the law is being cursed.

If you are a Sinner, you are cursed. Sinners Are Cursed People!

 

[Cooper]

Yeshua/Jesus practices the Law of Moses in complete devotion to the will of the Father.

That was under the Old Covenant. After his resurrection, whereby He conquered sin and death, He gave us a New Covenant that supersedes the old rules and regulations.
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[Joseph77]

Okay, are you suggesting that the Bible is the mouth of God?

Why think I am suggesting something?
I simply quoted a passage from Scripture.
(The Father grants His Wisdom, His Understanding, to little children, of His Word / Salvation, as this is His Good Pleasure So To Do (Jesus Says) )

 

[Elihoenai]

Sorry , cannot agree with your *second comment above.

If this is so. Then why did Jesus come, lay down His life, and die?
What was the point?

To be a Real Disciple you must follow the Perfect Example of Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ.

 

[Elihoenai]

The Ten Commandments are God's moral law. This law was given to show people how sinful they are. Paul says that the Law is our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Once a person has come to full trust in the finished work of Christ on the cross, the Law has done its work and has been fulfilled. Observing the Law does not save us because none of us can observe it because of our sinfulness. We are saved by grace through faith in Christ.

But we all will be judged from the great white throne according to God's moral law, because God is a God of justice as well as love. We will all be found guilty because "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God". But those who have placed their trust in Christ through faith will have had the penalty for their sin placed on Christ and will not have to bear it themselves, so they will be set free from having to be sentenced to God's eternal prison without parole.

But if we try to be saved by observance to the law, we will be judged by the same law we try to keep and will be found guilty, and Christ will say, "You trusted in your ability to keep the law instead of fully trusting in Me and My finished work on Calvary, so you will have to bear the eternal penalty for not keeping the law, and I regretfully cannot help you, and so you will have to go into the everlasting prison without the possibility of parole".

So, if you are trusting in your ability to keep the Ten Commandments in order to be saved, then you are in terrible danger, like a man in a burning aircraft having to jump without a parachute, and thinking by flapping your arms you will land on the ground safely.

If you were trusting in Messiah/Christ, you would be Sinless, because Messiah/Christ is Blameless concerning Law requirements.

 

[Waiting on him]

That was under the Old Covenant. After his resurrection, whereby He conquered sin and death, He gave us a New Covenant that supersedes the old rules and regulations.
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Yes written on the heart.

 

[Waiting on him]

If you were trusting in Messiah/Christ, you would be Sinless, because Messiah/Christ is Blameless concerning Law requirements.

Are you here to testify of yourself, or Christ?

 

[Cooper]

To be a Real Disciple you must follow the Perfect Example of Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ.

Jesus died for the sins of the world to those who believe, and while we cannot do that, we can as his disciples, die to the things of this earth. Then everything fades away except for those who keep looking back to the Old.
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[Joseph77]

I'm not wasting time looking at your sources. I'm not the one who is confused. Clearly the Jews were not following the I AM who said not to murder, and the Jews still do not worship the I AM.

Some Jews,and some gentiles, follow Jesus. Most never did, nor ever do.

You are very Correct concerning that posters sources - see other thread about man running away last half hour.
That one's sources/ beliefs are not knowledgeable of who that man was, so other things are expected to be out of order also -
as always, check or test everything before believing it. It must be in harmony, in line with all Scripture, not contradictory nor false, before accepting it.

 

[Elihoenai]

The function of the Law is to point us to Christ. The Law cannot save us because we can't keep it as required. Jesus Christ is the only One who can free us from the wrath of God and the penalty for our failure to keep God's Law.

Given that cannot keep the Law, you have no faith in Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ. Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ keeps the Law perfectly.

 

[Joseph77]

Jesus died for the sins of the world to those who believe, and while we cannot do that, we can as his disciples, die to the things of this earth. Then everything fades away except for those who keep looking back to the Old.
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There seems to be a little bias in the last sentence.
For comparison, see where God Himself says to find the old pathways, or something(s) like that.
And to continue reading Scripture, written in the past, for us, to train us, to guard us, to teach us, even so to speak to "babysit" us who seek Him.