The Jesuits ... What is their role? Part 1 and 2

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justbyfaith

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We do not condemn people as believers in Christ (Luke 6:37).
By your estimation, who put you in charge?

They are condemned already because they don't believe on the name of the only begotten Son of God (John 3:18).
They are condemned because they do not believe like you do....your targets are end less....Like I said start a Hater's Church at least you would honest.
This is what the Lord says to me on this:

1Jo 4:4, Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jo 4:5, They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jo 4:6, We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

While these statements might be the statements that you would define as statements of a "Hater's chuch", thay are in fact the statements of a lover's church that exalts truth even when doing so exposes lies and thus gives other people a "cold prickly."
 

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Saying someone is a great Christian and friend = prejudice?
....... ? ......
Like saying, I'm not prejudiced against black people...some of my best friends are black!

Such a statement will evoke laughter in some circles; because it shows that there is true prejudice in that person's heart against black people.

Just an example.
 

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Like saying, I'm not prejudiced against black people...some of my best friends are black!

Such a statement will evoke laughter in some circles; because it shows that there is true prejudice in that person's heart against black people.

Just an example.
....?
Me having a Fundamentalist pastor friend, whom I chat with about Christ & enjoy his perspectives = me being prejudice? I also have Catholic friends, agnostic, generic Protestant friends, generic non-denom, atheist, etc.


I'm sorry, this objection and conversation seems to be completely irrational. I'll quit trying to have a rational conversation and just take my leave.
Have a good evening.
 

justbyfaith

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Of course, I could be put into a mental hospital for having it...which I would define as persecution for believing in those passages. :eek::p:D:cool:
I guess that's why they define it as a complex.

They can't cure you by persecuting you for it (putting you into a mental hospital and injecting you with drugs and then forcing you to take them until you are conditioned to take them outside the hospital; not allowing you freedom until this is the case).
 
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I've come to accept the thing that I cannot change; perhaps they should learn to accept the things that they cannot change, and cease their persecution of Christians who believe in the passages in question.
 

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The best way to cure someone of a persecution complex is to make sure that no one persecutes them, wouldn't you say?

But those of us who have one often wax obnoxious in order to draw persecution out from people.

Persecution for obnoxiousness' sake.

I'm being facetious.
 

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But I think that I have derailed the thread.

I suppose that it is still on-topic to a certain extent; since the OP exposes how Jesuit priests take oaths to persecute Protestants.
 

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A short testimony.

Before I became a believer in Christ I used to be an addict of the game of AD&D; and I even played the computer games of that sort after becoming a Christian because I wanted to show interest in my brother who also played the game (obedience to Philippians 2:4).

I started one of the games as a Cleric with a wisdom of 18; and proceeded to read a book when I found it. It raised my wisdom score to that of 19; but the game immediately ended because my character went insane in the dungeon.

The final score of the game was that it said that my character "went insane."

This happened three times; and my brother was witness to it.

I think that the last time that it happened, my brother got the picture, that my character went berserk on all of the creatures (I think, because they kept attacking him while he was attempting to glean wisdom from the book) and finally took over the entire dungeon.

Hos 9:7, The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.

I say to you truly that this character in the game of life has the true victory; while suffering cannot be avoided by any of us.
 

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Stephen was specifically attacked because he "spoke words against this holy place and the law." (Acts of the Apostles 6:13).
I can't believe you wrote that. Do you know what you're writing? People were angry with Stephen and got other people to act as false witnesses and to tell that lie. The people who lied and who suborned them to lie were guilty of murder.

The original poster was attacking no one here on these boards; but rather was exposing the past of an organization that has had questionable practices in times past.
It was an attack on the Catholic Church, and you know it. It was meant to demean the Catholic Church and thus all Catholics.
 

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historyb, look at your statement above. You call others 'Idiots'.....do you not see how this judgement condemns yourself?

Not really. Idiots don't research well and assume something salacious is the truth when it is a proven lie.
 

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It appears Mungo you are not familiar with history.
For one thing, I know no Catholic who knows much about the Catholic Church would ever refer to it as the "Roman Catholic Church." That by itself was enough to tell me the article was a lot of humbug.

And do tell us: How are you acquainted with the history? Were you there to witness these things for yourself? Or do you think you know the history by reading anti-Catholic hit pieces?

You've been hookwinked. You don't like Catholics; and when you read something that makes them look bad, you believe it because you want to believe it. It's easy to fool people like you.
 
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It was an attack on the Catholic Church, and you know it. It was meant to demean the Catholic Church and thus all Catholics.

To demean the Catholic Church is not to demean the individual Catholic; except inasmuch as said Catholic has been hoodwinked by the Catholic Church.
 

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You've been hookwinked. You don't like Catholics; and when you read something that makes them look bad, you believe it because you want to believe it. It's easy to fool people like you.
What's the big deal about being a Catholic? A person is not born again or saved by being a member of the Catholic Church.

What motivation of love is there in defending the catholic Church then? A man can be born again through faith in Jesus; he doesn't need the Catholic Church.

However, since the Catholic Church teaches that Mary is co-redeemer, a man who follows the ideology of the Catholic Church may indeed lose out on salvation because the crucifixion of Christ is diminished as the means of salvation; for in all reality it is the only means of salvation.