No unity ever

[2 Chr. 34:19]

Thank you. I have a feeling that SOME Protestants do not look on Catholics as Christians....

I just don’t understand that

Respectfully

Hi Mary, Well, I had to come out of rcc, but it took me a year. Not easy to walk away from a long-term religion, especially if family are there too. looks like you’re reading your Bible, which I didn’t as rc, so you’re in a much better position than I was. :)

(Having said that, the proddy church I joined for 17 yrs!! turned out to be quite dodgy with money)
don’t even go to church now, just read my Bible

 

[Marymog]

Hi Mary, Well, I had to come out of rcc, but it took me a year. Not easy to walk away from a long-term religion, especially if family are there too. looks like you’re reading your Bible, which I didn’t as rc, so you’re in a much better position than I was. :)

(Having said that, the proddy church I joined for 17 yrs!! turned out to be quite dodgy with money)
don’t even go to church now, just read my Bible

Back story on me.

I was Once a Protestant. Not one of the many churches I went to taught the truth. How do I know they didn’t teach the Truth? Because I disagreed with them and thought I had the Truth that was why I kept going to different churches.

I then decided to put to use my interest in history and see what the men who walked/talked with the Apostles thought, preached, practiced and how they interpreted Scripture. It was then that I learned that Christianity has been Catholic since the 1st Century. I am now happy to be a member of The Church. I now realize that I am not “the pillar and foundation of truth”. The Church is....just like scripture says.

The last Protestant church I went to never revealed how much money they took in or spent. The last service I went to the pastor (who started the church and had his kids/wife running the church) stood up on the stage as the smoke cleared from the band that just performed behind him and he held up a cracker. He said to the congregation, “Jesus held up the bread at the Last Supper and said to the Apostles , this is a “symbol” of my body”......

I knew Scripture well enough To know that the pastor just flat out lied, on stage, in front of and to hundreds Christians. It was the last straw for me but Oddly the best thing that ever happened.

Good luck on your journey. You are always welcome to come home.

Mary

 

[bbyrd009]

Yes 'faith' can refer to the body of belief one holds.

Jude 3 (KJV) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

got a witness for that?

 

[bbyrd009]

Back story on me.

I was Once a Protestant. Not one of the many churches I went to taught the truth. How do I know they didn’t teach the Truth? Because I disagreed with them and thought I had the Truth that was why I kept going to different churches.

I then decided to put to use my interest in history and see what the men who walked/talked with the Apostles thought, preached, practiced and how they interpreted Scripture. It was then that I learned that Christianity has been Catholic since the 1st Century. I am now happy to be a member of The Church. I now realize that I am not “the pillar and foundation of truth”. The Church is....just like scripture says.

The last Protestant church I went to never revealed how much money they took in or spent. The last service I went to the pastor (who started the church and had his kids/wife running the church) stood up on the stage as the smoke cleared from the band that just performed behind him and he held up a cracker. He said to the congregation, “Jesus held up the bread at the Last Supper and said to the Apostles , this is a “symbol” of my body”......

I knew Scripture well enough To know that the pastor just flat out lied, on stage, in front of and to hundreds Christians. It was the last straw for me but Oddly the best thing that ever happened.

Good luck on your journey. You are always welcome to come home.

Mary

you are completely oblivious to how ridiculous you sound huh mary

bc no one Protests here enough you take that as license to speak like you know right

 

[amadeus]

Presuming that your interpretation of Scripture is correct what happened when you came out of her? (Historically speaking)

Historical Mary

I cannot speak for Nancy, but for me it was after I was disconnected from Catholicism that I really met the Master! While I enjoyed my time as a Catholic because of people I could never grow closer to God. It was after the disconnect that the growth for me began.

 

[amadeus]

Back story on me.

I was Once a Protestant. Not one of the many churches I went to taught the truth. How do I know they didn’t teach the Truth? Because I disagreed with them and thought I had the Truth that was why I kept going to different churches.

I then decided to put to use my interest in history and see what the men who walked/talked with the Apostles thought, preached, practiced and how they interpreted Scripture. It was then that I learned that Christianity has been Catholic since the 1st Century. I am now happy to be a member of The Church. I now realize that I am not “the pillar and foundation of truth”. The Church is....just like scripture says.

The last Protestant church I went to never revealed how much money they took in or spent. The last service I went to the pastor (who started the church and had his kids/wife running the church) stood up on the stage as the smoke cleared from the band that just performed behind him and he held up a cracker. He said to the congregation, “Jesus held up the bread at the Last Supper and said to the Apostles , this is a “symbol” of my body”......

I knew Scripture well enough To know that the pastor just flat out lied, on stage, in front of and to hundreds Christians. It was the last straw for me but Oddly the best thing that ever happened.

Good luck on your journey. You are always welcome to come home.

Mary

That all of the Protestants in your experience, or mine, have been in error does not mean that the Catholic Church is where God wants us all to be. Is it so wrong to continue following the Way that Jesus gave us? Why do you assume or presume that it is so?

"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matt 6:33

 

[prism]

I think that comment was addressed to me and I forgot to answer.... but YOU have answered it... THANK YOU

You're right, sorry for my impatience.

 

[prism]

ok ty professor

Far from it.

 

[prism]

got a witness for that?

Yeah, Jude 3

 

[bbyrd009]

How do I know they didn’t teach the Truth? Because I disagreed with them

priceless

He said to the congregation, “Jesus held up the bread at the Last Supper and said to the Apostles , this is a “symbol” of my body”

well mary, when someone breaks a loaf of bread in front of you and says "this is my body," you will either get the hint or get offended i guess, your choice. But fwiw there is no ritual involved in the "Lord's" Supper, except for Esau

Now fwiw im happy that you found somewhere to go in your religion shopping, but hopefully you get on some level that changing religions will not save you anyway? And going to the dark side just proves that you dont understand most of what you read anyway imo

anyway heil, and best of luck to you with the Mithraist thing ok

 

[bbyrd009]

Yeah, Jude 3

could you be a little more vague, ty

so, for the rest of us, that is the only v that can be found that suggests faith as a noun, there is no "witness" to build a belief or doctrine upon iow, which i guess is not necessarily inscribed either, at least per se

Far from it.

definitely, right. Absolutely no question iow?
Iow you dont even realize that you speak in absolutes?

 

[bbyrd009]

The key I believe is that the Word is Living.
A translation would be inspired, if the translator were inspired by God to write it or speak it, or...? I used to translate a lot of documents over the years while working for Social Security, but at the moment I cannot recall one which I did as God inspired me to do it.

i dont consult it much, but the Amplified Bible struck me as an inspired idea, at least

 

[prism]

so, for the rest of us, that is the only v that can be found that suggests faith as a noun, there is no "witness" to build a belief or doctrine upon iow, which i guess is not necessarily inscribed either, at least per se

Acts 6:7 (KJV) And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.

Acts 13:8 (KJV) But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.

Acts 14:22 (KJV) Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Romans 1:5 (KJV) By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

2 Corinthians 13:5 (KJV) Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Galatians 1:23 (KJV) But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.

Galatians 3:23 (KJV) But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Galatians 6:10 (KJV) As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

I hope that's a start and sufficient and not too vague for you.

Iow you dont even realize that you speak in absolutes?

I know I speak in absolutes, I try not to speak in riddles.

 

[historyb]

So, you have read the book then?

Don't need too, I have the original sources that were there not some guy who had a biased against the Traditional Church

 

[historyb]

think the question is WHY would a CATHOLIC want to come here and debate issues with NON CATHOLICS... that to me makes no sense

Why would any Traditional Christian come in here when some yahoo (not you @Adoration) who has no authority nor true teaching on how the Church was from the beginning acts as if they know everything. All most people here want to do here is open their yaps to prove they don't know anything at all.

 

[historyb]

OKAY EVERYONE THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT UNITY.

Do I have your attention now? This thread is about the fact that there never can or will be unity even among evangelicals

 

[historyb]

Thank you. I have a feeling that SOME Protestants do not look on Catholics as Christians....

I just don’t understand that

Respectfully

They don't, they puff up themselves as better

 

[historyb]

So I see some people sharing back stories I will too. I was an evangelical growing up and I really didn't find true peace and Christ until I turned to Catholicism and Traditional Christianity and developed a love and devotion to the Holy Eucharist. I had to leave because of the current Pope and how he was not steering the Church right after Pope Benedict 16 was did so much good for the Church. I have now found another Traditional Church where we know Christ is truly present in the Blessed Eucharist

 

[amadeus]

i dont consult it much, but the Amplified Bible struck me as an inspired idea, at least

I won't say yea or nay as I do not own a copy and cannot remember having read anything from it. I only know about that translation from what little I have read about on forums like this one. Of course, as I understand it, even it were written by a person as he was inspired by God, it still would not be inspiring or the Word of God for a person to whom it was not quickened... Certainly I know there are people on this forum who would argue that point with me.

 

[Addy]

Why would any Traditional Christian come in here when some yahoo (not you @Adoration) who has no authority nor true teaching on how the Church was from the beginning acts as if they know everything. All most people here want to do here is open their yaps to prove they don't know anything at all.

You are missing my point @historyb ... and you seem bent and bound on finding fault with me... simply because I stated I loathe the religion of Catholicism... I have been honest about that... I don't think a person can HEAL and begin to FORGIVE .... until they ADMIT they have a problem.
I have admitted I cannot discuss this topic..... YET... when someone was cruel with their words to Marymog... I came to her defence... READ post #201

My point is that because of the extreme SEPARATION of Catholics vs the rest of protestants.... coming into a post about UNITY is an OXYMORON.... I think the results are seen in plain form.