Virgin Mary is the Woman in Genesis 3:15

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brian100

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Jesus is the Father and he entered this world as a man thru his Queen of Heaven which then he becomes Son of God at the same time. Mary gives him his human form. So hes 100% man & 100% God.


Mary elevated to Queen

Pslams 45:9.
Queen of Heaven at the R-Hand of God.
 
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amadeus

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You guys probably think her dress is waving like a cloud..It is. A cloud of light!

Ask yourself if you have enmity for the Woman. If you do.. then you are born of thee seed (thee/thy= them fallen angels).
On another thread yesterday you told me you did not want to hear what I believed. Why is it then that you press for everyone here to listen to what you believe?

"And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:30-31
 
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amadeus

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If this was my Kingdom I would fight for him. .. I' am.

'Fighting' for 'Jesus and Mary'. Its a Jesus and Mary Heaven.. of 2 hearts.
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." John 18:36
 
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amadeus

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I got you with 'if this was my Kingdom'.
You need to learn to use the "quote" function and talk to only one person at the time. Your generalizations as if everyone here were the same are confusing. All you have to do to reply to a person is hit both the "quote" and the "reply" buttons in the lower right corner of the post and a copy of that post will appear in brackets in the field where you want to reply. Just be sure not to type anything inside of the other guy's brackets.
 
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amadeus

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Why do you believe in God if the Devil can be Jesus or Mary?
You are putting words in someone's mouth. No one said what you are saying and no one here to my knowledge believes that. If you want to discuss or even just declare your beliefs at least be honest about it. Someone was referring to these verses in the scriptures, but you jumped to a conclusion without checking or asking. That you don't care what others believe is one thing, but to accuse someone of saying this is dishonest. As I already said, learn to use the "quote" and "reply" functions so that you do not carelessly misquote a person...

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." II Cor 11:13-14
 
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amadeus

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I'm not sure how the reply button works.. so it doesn't matter who said it to me. I'm sure we all know who said what.
This is not so. It is not an uncommon occurrence for people who do not use the quote and reply function through neglect or ignorance to miscommunicate by accusing a person of believing something and it turns out to be the wrong person... Is is not better to remain silent than to do something like that? If you are honest and careful, you are more like to gain respect even from people who disagree with you.
 

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"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." John 18:36
A kingdom implies a monarchy, or it's not a kingdom. A kingdom with no queen would have been unthinkable to 1st century Jewish Christians who were trained in Scripture since childhood. A King without a queen, Eve with no New Eve, Daughter of Zion without Israel does violence to Scripture and all of Christian history.
"Why Should Anyone Care About Early Protestant Mariology?"
 
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amadeus

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Luke was the nicest stranger I ever met. This man sent me a post card from Italy and I'm a nobody.

How many here can say they knew a Luke who sent a post card to a random stranger? Look at the date it was 17 years ago, but the first sentence is for now.
Actually I have received more than one... but that is my testimony for me. I also received a postcard from my own mother in the flesh weeks after she was deceased. God does work in ways mysterious to us at times, but don't be surprised if other people do not receive your testimony as Truth. We really need to believe in God by faith:

"Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:27-29
 

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A kingdom implies a monarchy, or it's not a kingdom. A kingdom with no queen would have been unthinkable to 1st century Jewish Christians who were trained in Scripture since childhood. A king without a queen, Eve with no New Eve, Daughter of Zion without Israel does violence to Scripture and all of Christian history.
So are you saying that verse I quoted doesn't mean what it says about fighting? That was what Jesus was saying and it is what I was responding to in that post.

While I did not mention it at all I do believe that there is, or is to be, a Bride of Christ. The Bride consists of people and may even include Mary the wife of Joseph... that is a spiritual connection isn't it?

"There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and young maidens without number.
One is my dove, my perfect one is but one, she is the only one of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her. The daughters saw her, and declared her most blessed: the queens and concubines, and they praised her." Song of Solomon 6:7-8
 

amadeus

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Yes, I'm smarter than you people.
Even if this were so, what would it mean to God who knows us all including all of our flaws... better than we know ourselves?
Do you want to do what Jesus did not do? Do you suppose you will get a feather in your hat from God for your presentation here?
 

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You are saying the devil is more powerful than God b/c he can appear as his Mother and God is powerless to stop it. Your kooky logic is screwball.
Discuss if you will, but don't call people's beliefs unfounded names because you disagree with them. No brownie points for that!
 
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You guys probably think her dress is waving like a cloud..It is. A cloud of light!

Ask yourself if you have enmity for the Woman. If you do.. then you are born of thee seed (thee/thy= them fallen angels).
Ok, then. If you don't believe in the Catholic Mary, you are the seed of Satan. You heard it here first!
 
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I'm smarter than you people.


Smarter than us people? That's quite a boastful claim.

In the same way the devil can make that video statue move - the devil can do this as well...

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


Looks like your Mary statue is a forerunner to something worse.
God Bless!
 
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Renniks

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Well I can't speak for courts when I have the video myself and have the power to look myself..
We aren't to put our trust in videos, or shrouds or Jesus' mother. Show me where scripture tells me to put my faith in those things. Nope, only in Jesus!
 
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Well you put your trust in a mistranslated bible? Or on purpose edited bible to edit out Mary.. So I had to go look.

Video and shrouds are hard evidence.
 

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Well you put your trust in a mistranslated bible? Or on purpose edited bible to edit out Mary.. So I had to go look. Video and shrouds are hard evidence.

Mary wasn't "edited out" ... she was never anything more than Mary the mother of Jesus, and wife to Joseph her husband.

Let's look at what scripture says...

Matthew 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Matthew 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
Matthew 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Matthew 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


Please show us, in this scripture scene where Jesus says, "Behold my mother, the queen of heaven, make way and bow before her." Nope it just wasn't there.

Mary needed the Holy Ghost just like everyone else ...

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

God Bless!
 
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She's the Woman in Gen 3:15 Douay Rheims "I will put enmities between thee and the woman".... thee=enemy

She's the Woman at the cross.

She's the Woman in Revelations 12:1

Mary isn't called the queen of heaven in any of the verses you list. You may want to check out the following verses to see who was given that title: Jeremiah 7:18 and Jeremiah 44:17.

++The Protestants all reject Mary. Along with any unbelievers. God makes her enemies dislike her more. . . and him, too.

What do you mean when you say that the Protestants all reject Mary? She is the mother of our Lord, blessed among women! I just don't pray to her or worship her. I guess that you arrived at your conclusion about what Protestants think by talking to every Protestant?

You seem to have a bee under your bonnet. You could get to know people on this forum and find out what we actually think.
 
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Its mathematical.

Thru Mary comes Salvation.

Yeah I just grouped them all into the I never pray to Mary camp.