Healthy Relating....What does it consist of?

[justbyfaith]

What's a god-man? ..and if you use the word 'mystery' even once, consider yourself beguiled and defeated.

Eph 3:1, For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
Eph 3:2, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Eph 3:3, How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph 3:4, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Huh...I used the word, and am not beguiled and defeated...unless you want to say that Paul the apostle was beguiled and defeated for using it.

And the answer to your question (without using the word mystery) is that there is something called the hypostatic union (and it is sound doctrine); wherein God became a Man; not ceasing to be God; but adding a second nature of humanity; so that Jesus is 100% Man and 100% God.

Because 100% x 100% = 100%; just as 1 x 1 = 1. Basic math.

 

[DNB]

Eph 3:1, For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
Eph 3:2, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Eph 3:3, How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph 3:4, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Huh...I used the word, and am not beguiled and defeated...unless you want to say that Paul the apostle was beguiled and defeated for using it.

And the answer to your question (without using the word mystery) is that there is something called the hypostatic union (and it is sound doctrine); wherein God became a Man; not ceasing to be God; but adding a second nature of humanity; so that Jesus is 100% Man and 100% God.

Because 100% x 100% = 100%; just as 1 x 1 = 1. Basic math.

JBF, how old are you, 10yrs old? You had your foot in your mouth by your first equation.
'...but adding a second nature of humanity; so that Jesus is 100% Man and 100% God. ....Because 100% x 100% = 100%; just as 1 x 1 = 1. '
You added a 2nd nature to the 1st, then multiplied them both to make your point. Which one is it, addition or multiplication?

Plus, explain hypostatic union. You can't, because of the below reasons....

God is immortal, man is mortal.
God is transcendent, man is secular.
God is omnipresent, man is circumscribed in a precise coordinate within space in time.
God is infallible, man is fallible.
Every intrinsic attribute of God, is antithetical to humanity.

Basic God-given logic, ...and reverence.

 

[justbyfaith]

God is immortal, man is mortal.

Jesus died and rose again, never to die again.

God is omnipresent, man is circumscribed in a precise coordinate within space in time.

God condensed His Omnipresent essence into a finite human body (see Luke 1:37)

God is infallible, man is fallible.

God carried over His infallibility into His human nature when He became a Man.

Every intrinsic attribute of God, is antithetical to humanity.

That is because Adam and Eve sinned. Jesus was not subject to the sin-DNA carried down through Adam; because the sin-DNA (and the blood DNA) is carried through the father, not the mother: and Jesus' Father was God the Father.

 

[DNB]

Jesus died and rose again, never to die again.

But, he died all the same. Do you not understands immortality? God, the Father, raised Jesus, as He did Lazarus and the Shunammite's son, Dorcas, and the widow's son from Zeraphath.... God will raise us all, and make us all immortal. You've said absolutely nothing so far.

God condensed His Omnipresent essence into a finite human body (see Luke 1:37)
God carried over His infallibility into His human nature when He became a Man.

JBF, get serious, i told you to explain, not just repeat your allegations. Like all trinitarians or god-man theorists, you just talk nonsense and think that you can get a way with it, because you've eisegeted at text that to you, implies your conclusion. But again, does not explain the implausibility of the logistics.

That is because Adam and Eve sinned. Jesus was not subject to the sin-DNA carried down through Adam; because the sin-DNA (and the blood DNA) is carried through the father, not the mother: and Jesus' Father was God the Father.

JBF, get your head on straight, God does not have blood or DNA, He is spirit and these physical entities are created and material matter, that are corruptible because they are from the earth. You're all insane you who deify the Christ, man's saviour.

 

[justbyfaith]

God does indeed have blood (Acts 20:28 (kjv)).

Act 20:28, Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

You do accept the kjv as inspired?

 

[quietthinker]

You have a very strange way of reasoning?

Yes, I understand that from your perspective.

 

[mjrhealth]

Banging head against wall, good thing God is patient with man and saw all this coming,

1Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jn 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

 

[DNB]

God does indeed have blood (Acts 20:28 (kjv)).

Act 20:28, Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

You do accept the kjv as inspired?

Two heresies in one. No, the KJV is not inspired, nor is God corporeal. Plus, the verse that you quoted does not even come close to saying that.
JBF, you are really following some very perverse ideas and principles. There is not a rational argument in the world to substantiate either the inspiration of the KJV, nor the material constitution of God who is omnipresent and transcendent beyond any created and secular entity.

 

[DNB]

Yes, I understand that from your perspective.

...I wish that you would appreciate it, too.

 

[justbyfaith]

Two heresies in one. No, the KJV is not inspired, nor is God corporeal. Plus, the verse that you quoted does not even come close to saying that.
JBF, you are really following some very perverse ideas and principles. There is not a rational argument in the world to substantiate either the inspiration of the KJV, nor the material constitution of God who is omnipresent and transcendent beyond any created and secular entity.

So, which translation is inspired and inerrant?

And, you can choose to reject the doctrine of the Deity of Christ all you want...

The sure result of that, however, will be that you will die in your sins.

It's a crying shame when God made the way into everlasting salvation so easy...

And you rejected it because of intellectual pride.

 

[quietthinker]

...I wish that you would appreciate it, too.

Appreciate it I can't. Your attempts to explain the spiritual are from a humanistic view point. The two can not be reconciled.

 

[DNB]

So, which translation is inspired and inerrant?

And, you can choose to reject the doctrine of the Deity of Christ all you want...

The sure result of that, however, will be that you will die in your sins.

It's a crying shame when God made the way into everlasting salvation so easy...

And you rejected it because of intellectual pride.

Absolutely no translation is inspired, only the original autographs, those that left the author's hand for publication.
You failed miserably in rationalizing your god-man theology, absolute failure!

 

[DNB]

Appreciate it I can't. Your attempts to explain the spiritual are from a humanistic view point. The two can not be reconciled.

Your mysticism and irrationality cannot be taken seriously. It brings absolutely no glory to God, whatsoever!

 

[justbyfaith]

Absolutely no translation is inspired, only the original autographs, those that left the author's hand for publication.
You failed miserably in rationalizing your god-man theology, absolute failure!

We don't have the original autographs any more...so how is one supposed to get the unadulterated message of the gospel in God's word?

Are you saying that we cannot know the message of the gospel in today's world?

That appears to me to be an agnostic confession if anything.

You can deny the holy scriptures all you want...but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD...we will hold that the scriptures as we find them in the kjv are the unadulterated message of the gospel and the word of God Himself.

I'm sorry for you that you reject this to your own condemnation.

But I certainly am not going to follow you in your rejection of the word of God.

I will never place the Bible on a lower level by saying that it is not correctly translated today and that therefore I cannot know its message.

I believe that God is both sovereign and loving and Omnipotent;

And because He is all these things He is not going to be left without a voice in today's world...and He is not going to give us a testimony that is inaccurate because we don't have the originals...He is going to be faithful to share a testimony that is exactly what He wants for His people to believe in...this testimony is in the kjv...take it or leave it.

But know that Jesus said that the way to life is narrow and that there are few who find it (Matthew 7:13-14).

And I believe that the kjv as a translation is only one aspect of the narrowness of the truth that alone can save.

You reject this as you wish...but you cannot say to the Lord on the day of judgment that you weren't warned by anyone not to follow the broad road that leads to destruction.

 

[quietthinker]

Your mysticism and irrationality cannot be taken seriously. It brings absolutely no glory to God, whatsoever!

I'm sorry, your misapplication of words/descriptions is an attempt to diminish the topic.

 

[Joseph77]

How can psycho-bababable be diminshed ?

 

[Joseph77]

We don't have the original autographs any more...so how is one supposed to get the unadulterated message of the gospel in God's word?

Read Romans 2. (in any language, in any translation, as far as known)

 

[justbyfaith]

Read Romans 2. (in any language, in any translation, as far as known)

Romans 2 does not have the unadulterated gospel; Romans 3 has it more accurately.

Romans 2 has logic leading up to the reality of the gospel.

 

[DNB]

We don't have the original autographs any more...so how is one supposed to get the unadulterated message of the gospel in God's word?

Are you saying that we cannot know the message of the gospel in today's world?

That appears to me to be an agnostic confession if anything.

You can deny the holy scriptures all you want...but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD...we will hold that the scriptures as we find them in the kjv are the unadulterated message of the gospel and the word of God Himself.

I'm sorry for you that you reject this to your own condemnation.

But I certainly am not going to follow you in your rejection of the word of God.

I will never place the Bible on a lower level by saying that it is not correctly translated today and that therefore I cannot know its message.

I believe that God is both sovereign and loving and Omnipotent;

And because He is all these things He is not going to be left without a voice in today's world...and He is not going to give us a testimony that is inaccurate because we don't have the originals...He is going to be faithful to share a testimony that is exactly what He wants for His people to believe in...this testimony is in the kjv...take it or leave it.

But know that Jesus said that the way to life is narrow and that there are few who find it (Matthew 7:13-14).

And I believe that the kjv as a translation is only one aspect of the narrowness of the truth that alone can save.

You reject this as you wish...but you cannot say to the Lord on the day of judgment that you weren't warned by anyone not to follow the broad road that leads to destruction.

There are countless errors in the KJV, or any translation. Once one has transposed an original rendering into another language, of which no two languages are entirely compatible, you will suffer compromise, subjectivity in interpretation, questionable exemplars, scribal errors, etc...
No scribe or interpreter is inspired, therefore, no translations or extant manuscripts are inspired.
Obviously!

 

[Joseph77]

Romans 2 does not have the unadulterated gospel; Romans 3 has it more accurately.

Romans 2 has logic leading up to the reality of the gospel.

??
So you did not read it,
or you did not understand it ?

Where is it written that God Writes Torah on someone's heart ?
Does God make any mistake ?