Healthy Relating....What does it consist of?
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"quietthinker "]Those however whose epiphanies switch the light on in their understanding are changed.....something fundamentally shifts in how they see.
At a level where the rubber hits the road one could say that shift translates in the way they learn to relate (behave). We can say this different ways yet meaning the same thing...from dysfunction to function....from sin to holiness....from disconnection to connection.....from rebellion to sanctification. All these speak of how one sees and behaves; the two are inseparable.
Let's see if we can qualify function from dysfunction in the nitty gritty of living. Let's see if we can identify one from the other....if we can find words to articulate these sentiments as we understand them.
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"starting"? Start with God's Word some day ? (reading it)
If I understand your post here, simply reading Scripture Daily, starting with 1st John if new to Scripture, because it is written to beginners/babies in Christ Jesus,
in Scripture there are clear and unmistakable and unarguable (for truth seekers in Christ Jesus) descriptions of the difference between those who serve God and those who don't (in their lives and in the results of daily life with others).
The difference between universal dysfunction (common to all mankind), living opposed to God,
vs unity and union with Jesus, living in His Body Today. (Truth from God of His Appraisal-Judgment of the lives of men; not mere observations nor opinions of good or wicked men) .
"quietthinker "]Those however whose epiphanies switch the light on in their understanding are changed.....something fundamentally shifts in how they see.
At a level where the rubber hits the road one could say that shift translates in the way they learn to relate (behave). We can say this different ways yet meaning the same thing...from dysfunction to function....from sin to holiness....from disconnection to connection.....from rebellion to sanctification. All these speak of how one sees and behaves; the two are inseparable.
Let's see if we can qualify function from dysfunction in the nitty gritty of living. Let's see if we can identify one from the other....if we can find words to articulate these sentiments as we understand them.
Who will be our starting contributor?[/QUOTE
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"starting"? Start with God's Word some day ? (reading it)
If I understand your post here, simply reading Scripture Daily, starting with 1st John if new to Scripture, because it is written to beginners/babies in Christ Jesus,
in Scripture there are clear and unmistakable and unarguable (for truth seekers in Christ Jesus) descriptions of the difference between those who serve God and those who don't (in their lives and in the results of daily life with others).
The difference between universal dysfunction (common to all mankind), living opposed to God,
vs unity and union with Jesus, living in His Body Today. (Truth from God of His Appraisal-Judgment of the lives of men; not mere observations nor opinions of good or wicked men) .
Do you mean what is actually whole and complete living in Christ Jesus ? What is right and good ?
True, but I think that under the Covenant of Grace, its reception requires faith in Christ. In that, it is a gift and a testimony to the Church. It is the proof of God's promise of redemption to the believer, and a testimony of the power of Christ to the unbeliever. So that I don't believe that you would find a Jew, or any other monotheist with this endowment. It is for the Church only, thus God showing His approval of the Gospel of Christ as the only means towards salvation. He has endorsed no other theology.
So what? As long as you speak and ask questions not understood, they are meaningless questions, up to no good ?
Not good and proper thoughts, not related to God's Word, God's Plan, God's Purpose, or in Jesus.
Better to make it clear, instead of more obfuscation.
Joseph....the question 'healthy relating...what does it consist of?' is so straight forward there is little else I can say to make it clearer. It's asking you for your take on healthy relating ....relating to yourself, to others and to our Creator.
If you do not understand what I mean you will need to help me out by telling me what it is you don't understand about the question.
By the way, the word 'sanctification' is the process of moving from sickness to health.
I'm not saying to not take context into account.
I'm saying that context doesn't ever nullify the plain meaning of any singular verse of scripture; and that every verse in holy scripture can be taken by us as being a statement of God's absolute truth.
If you are talking about works, then I agree with you. But if of a living faith, then we must indisparingly disagree.
You say, but not true.
Even you so-called explanation is not at all clear what you mean. (no, my understanding of English is not at fault here - whatever you are attempting to say or ask is obscured for some reason not known to me) .....
Not worth the effort, ...'good question' was sarcastic. The term Healthy Relating is too vague and ambiguous, you shouldn't be playing guessing games with people, ...it appears that you actually don't understand the lack of clarity and definition of your own premise.
But it does alter it.
Eat my flesh and drink my blood. Sever body parts if they cause you to sin. Eye for an eye, tooth for tooth. What is it to you if I want him to stay alive, until I return. Jephtah sacrificed his daughter to the Lord. Be one, as I and the Father are one. God ordered the slaughtering of the Ammorites.
Context absolutely and invariably, alters and redefines the plain meaning of Scripture.
No verse, worth mentioning, stands alone by its plain and literal meaning.
Only those walking around in the dark don't know where they're going. Light enables vision and hope.....if anything, it makes hope all the more tangible, it sees the goal even though it is 'as through a glass darkly' and strives with all the energy God inspires to win the race set before us.
Your attempt to discredit only reveals the darkness enshrouding you.
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We can certainly interpret scripture by scripture and come up with an interpretation by two scripture passages that is not the same as when we were only looking at one of the two (see 1 Corinthians 2:13 (kjv)).
<edit:> 1Co 2:13, Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. <end edit>
But the fact that we can come up with a new interpretation dependent on the scripture that is added to the first, does not nullify the plain meaning and interpretation of the first as it exists all on its own.
There is simply a new interpretation added, on top of the interpretation that we have from the first scripture passage all by itself, that is added because we have compared scripture with scripture.
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