Well, the thief believed and was saved. That's good enough for me. Jesus had shed His Blood.
Salvation Through Baptism ???
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It may astound you to learn the word Believe can be translated as OBEY.
A Reply To A Denominational Preacher
A Reply to a Denominational Preacher
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Christianity is a system of faith, and in that arrangement the individual who is converted to Christ undergoes that change by his personal belief. God's scheme of human redemption makes salvation contingent upon one's response to His plan.
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There are a number of words in the New Testament which belong to the same family and are translated faith or belief. It would help tremendously in the understanding of the subject to examine and define these words and observe how they are used in these passages of the word of God. The root word for faith is peitho, and it means "to persuade, or to be persuaded; to confide in, trust." This word is used 55 times in the New Testament. Here are some of the uses: (1) Trust. "He trusted in God" (Matthew 27:43). This is our word for faith. (2) Persuade. "... and am persuaded of the Lord Jesus" (Romans 14:14). (3)Confidence. "We have confidence in the Lord" (II Thessalonians 3:4). (4) Obey. Some seven times this word is translated obey. "As many as obeyed him ..." (Acts 5:36). "Obey them that have the rule over you" (Hebrews 13:17). "That they should not obey the truth" (Galatians 3:1; Romans 2:8; Galatians 5:7; Acts 5:37; James 3:3).
The word obey in these passages is from peitho, the root word for faith. "As many as obeyed him ... as many as were convinced and persuaded by him." The word pistis is a cognate (that is, related by birth; belonging to the same family of words) of peitho, used 244 times in the New Testament, and following is the definition of this word faith by the standard, reputable scholars of the New Testament language.
How the Lexicons Define Faith
Pistis (faith): "Used especially of the faith by which a man embraces Jesus, i.e., a conviction full of joyful trust, that Jesus is the Messiah, the divinely appointed Author of eternal salvation in the kingdom of God, conjoined with obedience to Christ. In faith to give one's self up to" (-Henry William Thayer).
THE POWER IS IN THE RESS.
Without the RESS. blood is just blood.
The New Covenant ( The Church / The Kingdom) did not begin until (Acts 2).
When the NT Law went forth with POWER. (Mark 9:1)
My understanding from Acts is that believers were baptised because they were already believers, not in order to become believers (Acts 2.41).
Define RESS. Can you?
The NT began with the Blood of Jesus. Why do you keep minimizing the Blood of Jesus?
He was the only possible sacrifice when He shed His most precious blood at the Cross. 2 Corinthians 5.21. I do not elevate the symbol of baptism above the efficacy of the precious blood of Christ.
It's clear the water baptism fanatics here are attacking the Blood antonement of Jesus! How sneaky is the Devil!
Revelation 12
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world;
Revelation 12
9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world;
Not according to (Rom.6:3-18)
16. Decide who to serve
17. Obey a certain Doctrine (Rom.6:3-6)(Acts 8:5,12,13,26-40)
18. BEING THEN MADE FREE FROM SIN, ye became servants of righteousness.
"They that gladly believed his word were baptised" (Acts 2.41). Clearly they gave evidence that they believed by gladly receiving his word; and this is why, as believers, they were baptised as a symbol.
