Joe Biden, Anarchy, Lawlessness, Racist, lover of Communism, and hating Christianity

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Yehren

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You forgot to show that they were actually BLM members, not just provocateurs who showed up to disrupt what you admitted was a:
Why not just admit that you don't have any such evidence?

Oh, good grief. So, what you are actually saying is that...

... if some people commit crimes at what you admitted was a peaceful BLM protest, you are wrong to assume they are BLM members. As you just learned, many people have tried to infiltrate BLM protests and riot to blame BLM. Would you like me to show you again?
 

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mmmmmm....... nonsense

PUT A SHIRT ON !

besides, it looks like a painting of a pagan idol....

so is not proper on a 'Christian' forum
 

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You forgot to show that they were actually BLM members, not just provocateurs who showed up to disrupt what you admitted was a:
Why not just admit that you don't have any such evidence?



... if some people commit crimes at what you admitted was a peaceful BLM protest, you are wrong to assume they are BLM members. As you just learned, many people have tried to infiltrate BLM protests and riot to blame BLM. Would you like me to show you again?

Um, a peaceful protest is only a peaceful protest until it becomes violent, then it's a riot. And what is a BLM "member"? Do you get a membership card? The same people chanting "black lives matter" and "defund the police" are causing the riots.
If I show you multiple videos of blacks beating on whites, you will say "Well, how do you know they are BLM members?"
They are what they say they are unless proven otherwise. You are the one who has to prove they are something else.
 

Yehren

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Well it was in the Washington post, so it must be true. But look at what is actually being said: "More than two-thirds of those surveyed (69 percent) believe blacks and other minorities “receive equal treatment as white people in the criminal justice system.”

I would think so. Notice that when a violent or abusive cop arrests a black person falsely, the charges are almost always dropped, at least if there was video evidence. Courts seem to be pretty fair as a rule. The problem is a minority of corrupt police officers, not the criminal justice system.

In other words, they are not supporting what BLM actually stands for,

They probably read the BLS statement of purpose, instead of what white nationalists claim about them. Go figure.

I haven't read a statement from BLS taking an organizational stand on defunding police. Most people agree with Biden that defunding isn't the best way to reform the police.
 

Yehren

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besides, it looks like a painting of a pagan idol....

I suppose I can guess why the cross upsets you. But you'll just have to learn to live with it being here.

so is not proper on a 'Christian' forum

Most Christians disagree with you. It's the most important symbol of our faith.
 

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I suppose I can guess why the cross upsets you. But you'll just have to learn to live with it being here.
Most Christians disagree with you. It's the most important symbol of our faith.
Wrong on both counts.

I did not even see a cross on the pagan monster in your picture.
 

Yehren

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I suppose I can guess why the cross upsets you. But you'll just have to learn to live with it being here.
Most Christians disagree with you. It's the most important symbol of our faith.

I did not even see a cross

Of course you didn't. You saw what you wanted to, and ignored the part that you didn't like.

on the pagan monster in your picture.

The Romans called Christians wearing crosses "pagan monsters" too. Birds of a feather, I suppose.
 

Yehren

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Um, a peaceful protest is only a peaceful protest until it becomes violent, then it's a riot.

You know better. Even if some people get violent, a non-violent demonstration is what it is. As you admitted in your post.

And what is a BLM "member"?

A person who joins BLM and supports their policy of non-violence.

The same people chanting "black lives matter" and "defund the police" are causing the riots.
If I show you multiple videos of blacks beating on whites, you will say "Well, how do you know they are BLM members?"

If I show you multiple videos of whites beating on blacks, you will say "Well, how do you know they are white nationalists?"

And both questions are appropriate.

They are what they say they are unless proven otherwise.

Well, that's the problem. As I showed you earlier, lots of white nationalists claimed to be BLM or Antifa; a lot of them got caught. So that isn't even a sure thing.

If you claim they are, it's up to you to provide evidence to prove it. Tough game, but that's how it works.
 

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I suppose I can guess why the cross upsets you. But you'll just have to learn to live with it being here.
Most Christians disagree with you. It's the most important symbol of our faith.



Of course you didn't. You saw what you wanted to, and ignored the part that you didn't like.



The Romans called Christians wearing crosses "pagan monsters" too. Birds of a feather, I suppose.
Is that a picture of you ? Are you at least 5 ft tall ?
Do you wear such a cross yourself ? Or is it a picture of an idol, as it appears to be ?

The cross is very small part of it, and the picture does not convey anything Christian about it.
 

Renniks

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If you claim they are, it's up to you to provide evidence to prove it. Tough game, but that's how it works.
Nope. I'm not required to prove a negative. They might be aliens sent here to take over the world too. Prove they aren't. See how that works?
 

Yehren

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Is that a picture of you ?

Actually, it's a drawing.

Are you at least 5 ft tall ?

At least. :D

Do you wear such a cross yourself ?

Crucifix, actually.

Or is it a picture of an idol, as it appears to be ?

If you think that resembles an idol, you must be of a very odd religion. Do you know what the word "idol" means? And when is the last time you saw an idol wearing a Christian cross?

The cross is very small part of it, and the picture does not convey anything Christian about it.

Well you're very wrong. You see, "Yehren" is the closest Chinese equivalent to "barbarian." Many years ago, I was one of the few Christians on a message board, and an unusually bumptious atheist got annoyed with my apologetics, and told me that I had no idea how "barbaric" Christianity is. I replied, "well, you best call me the barbarian, then." He wasn't amused, but most everyone else liked it and so the name stuck.

And now you know the rest of the story.
 
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Yehren

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If you claim they are, it's up to you to provide evidence to prove it. Tough game, but that's how it works.


Yep. Your claim; up to you to support it. That's how it works.

I'm not required to prove a negative.

That's not your claim. That would be if you said that they weren't BLM and someone demanded that you prove they were not. That's what "proving a negative" is. You're making a positive claim. However if someone did claim that none of them were BLM, then it would be on that person to prove a negative,since he asserted it.

You made a claim. Even if it was a negative claim (and it wasn't), you'd still be responsible for proving it.

See how that works?
 

Renniks

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That's not your claim. That would be if you said that they weren't BLM and someone demanded that you prove they were not. That's what "proving a negative" is. You're making a positive claim. However if someone did claim that none of them were BLM, then it would be on that person to prove a negative,since he asserted it.
Nope, the news report calls them BLM. You claim they are not. If you can prove otherwise, have at it.
You are asking me to prove they are not something that no one but you claimed they are. That's ludicrous.
Proving they are not space aliens is just as reasonable.
 

Yehren

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Nope, the news report calls them BLM.

Sounds unlikely. Show us where it says the people arrested were BLM members.

You claim they are not.

Nope. I asked you to support your claim that they were, and you declined to do so. For reasons everyone understands.

You are asking me to prove they are not something

Nope. I'm asking you to show us that the people arrested are BLM members. You declined to support your claim.

That's ludicrous.

Not really. You did what most people do when they can't support their claims.
 

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BLM unless they are in the womb. Or unless it's the thousands of blacks murdered by blacks.
 

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Nope. I asked you to support your claim that they were, and you declined to do so. For reasons everyone understands.
You can choose to be blind, it's no skin off my back. You can lead a Yehren to the truth serum but you can't make him take it.
 

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You can choose to be blind, it's no skin off my back. You can lead a Yehren to the truth serum but you can't make him take it.

Perhaps mercy ? I don't know ? What is behind the mask ? Lifetime of hurt ? Lifetime of pain ? No shirt, no self-esteem , no esteem in Christ , no value known ? Just what is behind the mask ?
 

Yehren

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Nope. I asked you to support your claim that they were, and you declined to do so. For reasons everyone understands.

You can choose to be blind, it's no skin off my back.

By now, no one here expected you to be able to support your claim. And everyone understands why you won't.