John Darby

[Keraz]

EXCELLENT, you now agree with me that NUCLEAR WEAPONS are that SOURCE!
... and then you argue for REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY ...

:shrug:
Bobby Jo

Yes, the Lord has a massive nuclear power source at His disposal.
He will instigate an earth directed explosion of the sun's surface on His Day of fiery wrath. All earth nukes will be disabled or destroyed by it. Jeremiah 49:35, Hosea 2:18, Psalms 46:9, Psalms 76:3

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Who is the Covenant made with? The House of Israel, which is NOT the House of Judah, the Jews. But it is with every faithful Christian person, who are now the Israel of God by faith. So a few Jews will be included, as per Romans 9:27.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Yes, the Lord has a massive nuclear power source at His disposal.
He will instigate an earth directed explosion of the sun's surface on His Day of fiery wrath. All earth nukes will be disabled or destroyed by it. ...

FALSE! -- Solar flares last for less than a half hour, so your hypothesis only works for the side of the earth facing the sun. The dark side remains unaffected!

Some people's children ...
Bobby Jo

 

[Timtofly]

This is your replacement theology quiz.

Or anyone else that wants to take it....

Is this talking about future national Israel or the church.....


Hebrews 8
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Neither it is not made to living humans. It is made with the resurrected. Those people that most theology denies even exist.

It is not made with any of fallen human flesh and blood. All of Adam's descendants will die. No one spared. It is dying that is key, not living.

 

[Truther]

Y

Who is the Covenant made with? The House of Israel, which is NOT the House of Judah, the Jews. But it is with every faithful Christian person, who are now the Israel of God by faith. So a few Jews will be included, as per Romans 9:27.

You teach replacement theology.

 

[Truther]

Neither it is not made to living humans. It is made with the resurrected. Those people that most theology denies even exist.

It is not made with any of fallen human flesh and blood. All of Adam's descendants will die. No one spared. It is dying that is key, not living.

Never heard that idea in my life.

Jer 31/Hebrews 8 is not for living humans???

 

[Keraz]

FALSE! -- Solar flares last for less than a half hour, so your hypothesis only works for the side of the earth facing the sun. The dark side remains unaffected!

Are you just ignorant or too scared to really find out about CME's?

The earth has recently been getting some reminders of the sun's power, with a few solar flares. We are told how they can cause disruption of communications, but the news mostly focuses on the aurora displays.

I don't waste any worry space about these minor events, I haven't even found out how exactly an A class flare differs from an M class one. The CME predicted so comprehensively in Bible prophesy will be far off any scale and completely unprecedented. Joel 2:2b
The earths magnetosphere is a shield that protects us from the direct effects of a small CME. Auroras are the result of this protection. But we see that a CME could be the literal fulfilment of:

Isaiah 30:26 The sun will shine seven times stronger... and -

Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace...., will cause -

Revelation 6:14 & Isaiah 34:4 ...the sky will roll up like a scroll....the atmosphere to be pushed aside -

2 Peter 3:10....the heavens will disappear with a great rushing sound..... with a great noise

Isaiah 64:1 Lord, tear aside the heavens, come down and cause earthquakes, fires and make water boil....and extreme heat.

The tremendous pressure wave of this CME will force away our magnetic shield and will bring to pass all the effects of the much prophesied Lord's Day of vengeance and wrath, a terrible and unexpected judgement of fire. It is stated many times to be a one Day event, that is 24 hours: one earth rotation. Therefore, all the world will be affected; we are told that it will strike first in the Middle East at their midday, Zephaniah 2:4 and the sound of it will be heard around the world. Jeremiah 25:30-31 Within 40 seconds, those living in New Zealand will hear it, at their 11pm at night. Those in other time zones can easily calculate what their time is when it is 12 noon in the M. E. Anyone caught outside during the fire storms and earthquakes of this CME will die. Isaiah 66:16, Isaiah 51:6, Jeremiah 25:33, Jeremiah 9:22, Isaiah 63: 1-6, Psalm 37:10, Ezekiel 32:6

So, we who are warned must take note of what Isaiah tells us in-

Isaiah 26:20-21 The Lord is coming from His dwelling place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their sins. Go, My people, enter your rooms and shut the door after you, withdraw for a little while until the Lord's wrath has passed.

Expect and be prepared for - total darkness, extreme heat, powerful winds and earthquakes, then after it passes, no electricity, no water supply, no food deliveries, no communications, no transport and no rule of law. Peoples outside of the most affected zone will gradually recover, but life for all the survivors will never be the same again.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Are you just ignorant ...

http:// www. stce.be/news/332/welcome.html

As an example, there are M1 flares that last barely 5 or 6 minutes, but there are also M1 flares with a duration of several hours, such as the one on 17 July 2012 in sunspot group NOAA 11520 lasting a whopping 7 hours and 1 minute! Another example illustrates the different outlook these impulsive and long duration flaring events have in extreme ultraviolet (EUV) imagery. The figure underneath shows a white light image (SDO/HMI) of the active regions responsible for a short and a long duration X1 flaring event. These took place resp. in NOAA 11890 on 10 November 2013 (duration: 10 minutes) and in NOAA 11520 on 12 July 2012 (duration: 113 minutes or nearly 2 hours).​

I guess there's a LOT of ignorant people in astronomy. And even MORE ignorant people in New Zealand.

Bobby Jo

 

[teamventure]

Because I show up your wrong beliefs and you have no way of refuting me. Tough!

No, it's because you say things like we won't get taken to heaven, some of the things you say sound more new age than biblical.

 

[Timtofly]

Never heard that idea in my life.

Jer 31/Hebrews 8 is not for living humans???

Too much garbage out there in theology. Not many actually read and see what the Bible says. They can defend their theology though.

 

[teamventure]

For the record you guys my original post was complete satire.
I was using extreme fiction to point out the illogical reasoning of always bringing up Darby as if it means he had to be the first just because he popularised it.

 

[Keraz]

No, it's because you say things like we won't get taken to heaven, some of the things you say sound more new age than biblical.

But going to live in heaven is not Biblical.
Is that idea 'new age'? Or just a dream of the deceived.

 

[Truther]

Too much garbage out there in theology. Not many actually read and see what the Bible says. They can defend their theology though.

That is why we should read and take the word of God at face value.

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

John 2:25

 

[Truther]

If you were filled with the Holy Ghost, and without measure, you would know what is in man also.

 

[GISMYS_7]

We all know that John Darby came up with the pre-tribulation rapture.

But did you know that Darby also

Invented electricity,
Wrote the consitution,
Came up with the theory of relativity,
The law of gravity
And the recipe for maple syrup.

In fact, if we look further back in history you will see that John Darby probably discovered fire and invented the wheel too.

Pre-trib is God's eternal living word!!!
1Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be """caught up""" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Thessalonians 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Caught up IS therapture!!!

 

[Enoch111]

But going to live in heaven is not Biblical.

Quite the opposite. It is THE KEY to understanding what salvation is all about.

REVELATION 4 & 5: HEAVEN HAS THE THRONE OF GOD
1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in Heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in Heaven, and one sat on the throne.
3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created...

...11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
13 And every creature which is in Heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

 

[marks]

Does God get any glory here?.......too easy for men to take it themselves!

You're right!

God gave us Maple Syrup!!!

 

[GISMYS_7]

John 14:3 Jesus says===And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

 

[Bobby Jo]

John 14:3 Jesus says===And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

... and so when Jesus ascends to the New Jerusalem at the end of the Millennial Kingdom, HE'll take his church along with HIM.

Bobby Jo

 

[GISMYS_7]

... and so when Jesus ascends to the New Jerusalem at the end of the Millennial Kingdom, HE'll take his church along with HIM.

Bobby Jo

Any day now Jesus will shout, "come up here" =the rapture (catching up of believers) before the tribulation judgments and then after the great tribulation Jesus will return with the raptured believers and set up His 1000 year kingdom on earth then after the 1000 years the earth will be cleansed and renewed by fire and then the new Jerusalem will desend and God will make His home here with His family of born-again believers=sons of God and joint heirs with Jesus!!! PTL. FOR ALL ETERNITY!!