Michelle Obama's speech
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John Caldwell
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Maybe there's a plan to arrest Trump and his entire cabinet after Biden is inaugurated. Thugs in unmarked vans will drive up and snatch them, taking them to a reeducation camp at an unknown location. No need for any more trials -- they'll just disappear. Most of the right-wing political pundits will also disappear into reeducation. They'll be forced to listen to speeches by the Obamas and Clintons until their mental illness is corrected.
If Trump is smart, he should say he's visiting Russia on official business and then not come back. I'm sure Putin would grant him political asylum.
I'd advise you too not to travel to the US if Biden is elected. You may not make it back to Canada. You may not even be safe in Canada.
Bobby Jo
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Let me make myself clear, -- if you're so BRAVE, why don't you poke fun at Jesus:
Matt. 26:66 What is your judgment?” They answered, “He deserves death.” 67 Then they spat in his face, and struck him; and some slapped him, 68 saying, “Prophesy to us, you Christ! Who is it that struck you?”
Matt. 27:28 And they stripped him and put a scarlet robe upon him, 29 and plaiting a crown of thorns they put it on his head, and put a reed in his right hand. And kneeling before him they mocked him, saying, “Hail, King of the Jews!” 30 And they spat upon him, and took the reed and struck him on the head. 31 And when they had mocked him, they stripped him of the robe, and put his own clothes on him, and led him away to crucify him.
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39 And those who passed by derided him, wagging their heads 40 and saying, “You who would destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! If you are the Son of God, come down from the cross.” 41 So also the chief priests, with the scribes and elders, mocked him, saying, 42 “He saved others; he cannot save himself. He is the King of Israel; let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. 43 He trusts in God; let God deliver him now, if he desires him; for he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” 44 And the robbers who were crucified with him also reviled him in the same way.
Matt. 27:28 And they stripped him and put a scarlet robe upon him, 29 and plaiting a crown of thorns they put it on his head, and put a reed in his right hand. And kneeling before him they mocked him, saying, “Hail, King of the Jews!” 30 And they spat upon him, and took the reed and struck him on the head. 31 And when they had mocked him, they stripped him of the robe, and put his own clothes on him, and led him away to crucify him.
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39 And those who passed by derided him, wagging their heads 40 and saying, “You who would destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! If you are the Son of God, come down from the cross.” 41 So also the chief priests, with the scribes and elders, mocked him, saying, 42 “He saved others; he cannot save himself. He is the King of Israel; let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. 43 He trusts in God; let God deliver him now, if he desires him; for he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” 44 And the robbers who were crucified with him also reviled him in the same way.
Yeah, it's pretty apparent on which side of the fence you stand, -- so go ahead and takes your cheap swipes at Jesus.
Booby Jo
It reminds me of the poor oppressed blacks in America. I think Obama has made at least $100 million since he became President. Oh, and Lebron is only worth about half a billion. But they can't stop crying about how oppressed blacks are in America. Funny how the Left HATES America but LOVE the benefits!
Ghana has thrown an open invitation to all dissatisfied blacks in America to come on down and build Ghana. Not one of these whiners has taken them up on their generous offer.
Just goes to show that race can still be used to manipulate all the guilty whites (and many blacks), who still think they owe the black population something. But now it is sinister. Race is being used to destroy America, while all the cowardly white officials cower in their guilt.
It' s time to appoint black Sheriff David Clarke as the Czar of Anti-Terrorism in America. He will tell them all "There's a new sheriff in town!"
I think it's possible to find something negative in about every Church. It's the way it is, don't think you can go to a Church where you would agree with everything, you will find at least one thing to disagree with or not like.
Bobby Jo
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I think it's possible to find something BLASPHEMOUS in about every Church; or certainly from about every Pastor; or certainly from about every parishioner; or from about every Bible; ...
Or every excuse.
Bobby Jo
Someone is spreading misinformation. This site is beginning to look like a right-wing conspiracy site on some days. Factcheck has the exact quote.
Obama's 'Dreams of My Father' - FactCheck.org
Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Grailhunter
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I am not sure what you are implying. I am multi-denominational. I expect to find differences. I am really not expecting to find a church that thinks it is important to murder 600,000 babies every year. Not expecting to find a church that is cooking meth. Politically not expecting a church that prescribe to chaos and anarchy. Not expecting to not find a church that does not believe in morals of any kind. But yes there are going to be differences.
Grailhunter
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Why would I take a cheap swipe at Jesus? You make no sense. The Bible defines those sins that will prevent you from inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven. Still Christ is the final Judge. Still I call them as I see it.
Grailhunter
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Triumph1300
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Prayer Warrior
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Maybe you didn't understand what Obama's pastor said. The Reverend Wright literally used God's name to damn America from the pulpit! He said, "GD America." This is not "something negative." This is blasphemy!
Prayer Warrior
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But then what about the 170k people that died from the Covid-19 pandemic in the US? Shouldn't pro-lifers be pro-life for all people?
What about the deaths of unarmed people in America? What about the many people getting shot dead? I hear of stories from the USA, where people don't feel safe walking on the streets alone, because of the fear that they might get shot, this shouldn't be the case, there have even been plenty of shootings in the country, how wrong is that? Not to mention domestic gun violence is also a problem in the US. Again shouldn't pro-lifers be pro-life for all people?
What about all the poor people struggling to pay rent and feeding their family? Should they not be helped more?
What about more affordable education?
In Victoria there are many free tech school courses, that students can get free qualifications from, but University courses are still very expensive and put many into massive debt.
What about more affordable healthcare? If we break a leg in Australia, we can get it fixed for free, we have many free public hospitals in Australia that don't put people into debt or rip money out of people's pockets with a bill shock, my grandpa left the US because healthcare there was too expensive, an American living around the corner said healthcare is still expensive in the USA, and it would have thousands and thousands to get some things done over there, he is amazed that he didn't have to pay anything in Australia and amazed about how good the hospitals are here.
What about those with disabilities in America, shouldn't they be helped more as well? I still see some Christians not treating those people nice or with respect today, it's sad. Sadly, these people are still looked down upon.
And what about plastic straws and plastic bags? They are still ending up in the environment.
The sad reality is that abortion is not the only problem in the US, we need to look at the bigger picture, why don't either of the major parties Republicans or Democrats address all issues instead of just some? Both parties Republican and Democrats only address half or part of the problem of pre-mature deaths, neither are really truly pro-life.
Also to mention, a lot more needs to be done to prevent suicide....
Yes, a lot more does need to be done. The number of suicides seems to keep rising. It's especially bad among veterans.
As veteran suicide grows, National Guard highest in active military
Davidson, who had two younger sisters, is one among thousands of veterans who die by suicide each year. Despite national goals to prevent veteran suicides, they occur at disproportionately higher rates than in the general population.
More than 78,000 veterans died by suicide between 2005 and 2017, according to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). Veteran suicide deaths rose from 5,787 in 2005 to 6,139 in 2017. In the active military, the National Guard, with a suicide rate of 30.6 per 100,000, has the highest rate of any branch, according to the most recent Department of Defense Annual Suicide Report. The overall rate among all active military components was 24.8. This is occurring against a backdrop of rising suicides among all Americans.
More than 78,000 veterans died by suicide between 2005 and 2017, according to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). Veteran suicide deaths rose from 5,787 in 2005 to 6,139 in 2017. In the active military, the National Guard, with a suicide rate of 30.6 per 100,000, has the highest rate of any branch, according to the most recent Department of Defense Annual Suicide Report. The overall rate among all active military components was 24.8. This is occurring against a backdrop of rising suicides among all Americans.
Prayer Warrior
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What?? How can you compare a mother choosing to have a "doctor" kill her innocent baby in the womb and people dying in a pandemic? Apples and oranges. What should pro-lifers be doing to help people who are dying from COVID-19?
It's sad that so many people are being killed through violence, but again, what does this have to do with killing babies? Pro-lifers fight for those who have no voice--who cannot fight for themselves.
Is free K4-12 education for the masses not affordable enough? If the schools were not so dumbed down, most people wouldn't need a college education to work at Mc Donalds.
Edit: BTW, I paid my way through college. I worked and went to school. After I graduated from college, I paid back a small student loan I had taken out.
Do you have any idea what caused healthcare costs to rise astronomically in the U.S.? The main cause was comprehensive health insurance. I remember when health care was very affordable until the doctors started hiking their prices so that insurance companies would pay their actual fees. This began an endless spiral of price hikes.
So..........ObamaCare (socialized health insurance) was not the answer to this dilemma, but only compounded the problem. Plus, Obama flat-out lied to the American people when he said, "You can keep your health insurance; you can keep your doctor...." He KNEW that he was lying because introducing socialized medicine into the mix would change everything. And it did!
Just because Australia has become socialistic doesn't mean that it's the best thing for America. I don't have health insurance, and I don't want socialized medicine. I don't want socialism, which is the next step to communism, but that's where America is headed, esp. if the Democrats have their way.
The disabled are helped by the government through Medicare and Medicaid....
See, when the government provides the basics for people, the Church steps back. This has happened in America. Here's a personal example. After my husband died, my girls and I needed a place to live. There were people in the church I was attending telling me to go to the government for help. NO ONE OFFERED ME A JOB! No one tried to help me get a job. It was "let the government do it." One of the main problems with the government doing it is that helping people gives the Church an opportunity to share the love of Jesus--to demonstrate His love. Government doesn't do this.
I honestly think that the apocalypse will happen long before plastic straws fill the oceans.... Just saying.
Of course, I never said that abortion was the only problem in America. I've lived in America for more than a few decades, so I'm well aware of our many, many problems.
Killing a baby in the womb is the most heinous crime I can think of. It's shedding innocent blood, which God HATES! Anyone who supports an organization that is for this heinous practice is supporting evil of the worst kind. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) fully supports what they call "a woman's right" to kill her baby. It's in their platform.
No real Christian would align themselves with this evil and say that it's okay, but the Obamas have. Did you read the description of partial-birth abortion, which the Obamas support, in my post above? If you didn't, you should read it, and then tell me what you think of people who support this?
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