I'm a Christian and I support the legality of same-sex marriage

[Helen]

Ive been away from these boards because of a family crisis...I just come back and what do I find...a load of codswallop and balderdash ....

Where have all there really spiritual people gone...
...aah, I do see a small hand full of them still here!
I thought I had fallen down Alice's rabbit hole for a moment!!

 

[Taken]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

Marriage is between a man and a woman.
I do not support redefining a word to include what was not included.

If homosexuals want to form some kind of partnership...I don't care...make up your own word to define your relationship...why steal or redefined a word to include what it does not include?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Enoch111]

Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage.

It does not require a religious doctrine to reject this SEXUAL PERVERSION. There is not a single society in the world (other then those Western governments with Leftist liberals) who support or condone same sex marriage. And even in America, sodomy was a felony until very recently. You cannot support same-sex marriage and call yourself a Christian.

SO YOU DO NOT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Ive been away from these boards because of a family crisis...I just come back and what do I find...a load of codswallop and balderdash ....

Where have all there really spiritual people gone...
...aah, I do see a small hand full of them still here!
I thought I had fallen down Alice's rabbit hole for a moment!!

Ummmmmm, I just posted in the "Spirituality" Section how so many Christians SHOULD be in College, but are still in Kindergarten.

It ain't YOU, -- it's the few others. But what should we expect when we're in the Tribulation ...
Bobby Jo

 

[K9Buck]

Ive been away from these boards because of a family crisis...I just come back and what do I find...a load of codswallop and balderdash ....

Where have all there really spiritual people gone...
...aah, I do see a small hand full of them still here!
I thought I had fallen down Alice's rabbit hole for a moment!!

Should we outlaw religions that worship another God?

 

[K9Buck]

It does not require a religious doctrine to reject this SEXUAL PERVERSION. There is not a single society in the world (other then those Western governments with Leftist liberals) who support or condone same sex marriage. And even in America, sodomy was a felony until very recently. You cannot support same-sex marriage and call yourself a Christian.

SO YOU DO NOT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.

Do you support drunkenness? Do you support banning the sale of alcohol?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

Let me fully understand your position:

Do you support the right of adults in the following situtation: Sarah (18), Mike (19), and Jasmine (25) are all married of their own free will to Bob (47) whom spoils Sarah, but regularly beats Mike and Jasmine. All individuals are adults, voluntarily in relationship, with full knowledge of what's going on.

Do you support 1) their right to be in this situation, 2) barring of any outside influence/say, and 3) their demand that you acknowledge their relationship as equally valid as any other?

 

[K9Buck]

Let me fully understand your position:

Do you support the right of adults in the following situtation: Sarah (18), Mike (19), and Jasmine (25) are all married of their own free will to Bob (47) whom spoils Sarah, but regularly beats Mike and Jasmine. All individuals are adults, voluntarily in relationship, with full knowledge of what's going on.

Do you support 1) their right to be in this situation, 2) barring of any outside influence/say, and 3) their demand that you acknowledge their relationship as equally valid as any other?

I support their right as competent, consenting and informed adults to be in any relationship they like. However, they do not have a right to demand that I validate or recognize it. I support their right to be them, but that includes my right to be free FROM them.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Let me fully understand your position: ...

If people can't grasp the simple, they won't comprehend the complex. And if homosexuality is ok, then so too bestiality And if murdering children, then murdering anyone.

It's a depraved mind that argues against GOD's Laws.
Bobby Jo

 

[K9Buck]

If people can't grasp the simple, they won't comprehend the complex. And if homosexuality is ok, then so too bestiality And if murdering children, then murdering anyone.

It's a depraved mind that argues against GOD's Laws.
Bobby Jo

Bestiality victimizes an innocent animal. Murdering children victimizes an innocent child. Who is the innocent, third-party that is "victimized" by a homosexual act?

 

[historyb]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

While we are at it let's legalize pedophilia too because my goodness we don't want to live under a theocracy. While we are at let us legalize murder, theft, arson, shop lifting, and all the other things because hey we don't want a theocracy and we should support absolute freedom of choice.

 

[K9Buck]

While we are at it let's legalize pedophilia too because my goodness we don't want to live under a theocracy. While we are at let us legalize murder, theft, arson, shop lifting, and all the other things because hey we don't want a theocracy and we should support absolute freedom of choice.

Your analogy is not analogous. The acts you mentioned all involve the victimization of an innocent, third-party. Two men getting married does not involve a third party.

 

[historyb]

Your analogy is not analogous. The acts you mentioned all involve the victimization of an innocent, third-party. Two men getting married does not involve a third party.

Yes it does, they will want children to adopt. Your condemning innocents and ripping that innocents from them. It is better you have a mill stone tied around your neck and thrown in the river then face God on Judgement Day because through your ungodly beliefs you have caused little ones to go astray.

 

[K9Buck]

Yes it does, they will want children to adopt. Your condemning innocents and ripping that innocents from them. It is better you have a mill stone tied around your neck and thrown in the river then face God on Judgement Day because through your ungodly beliefs you have caused little ones to go astray.

Ok.

What other immoral behaviours should be made illegal?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I support their right as competent, consenting and informed adults to be in any relationship they like. However, they do not have a right to demand that I validate or recognize it. I support their right to be them, but that includes my right to be free FROM them.

So you believe a person can choose to not acknowledge the relationship of another?

Therefore, a person can choose to not acknowledge a homosexual relationship?

 

[K9Buck]

So you believe a person can choose to not acknowledge the relationship of another?

Therefore, a person can choose to not acknowledge a homosexual relationship?

Yes and yes.

 

[historyb]

Ok.

What other immoral behaviours should be made illegal?

Why? You love sin, it is quite evident from your love of being able to corrupt a child in a household with a homosexual relationship

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Yes and yes.

Then you don’t actually support the legal rights of homosexual marriage, because that includes the idea that they have these relationships acknowledged equal as all.

 

[K9Buck]

Why? You love sin, it is quite evident from your love of being able to corrupt a child in a household with a homosexual relationship

I take it that you don't want to answer my question.

 

[historyb]

I take it that you don't want to answer my question.

I answered. I hope and pray someday you come to know the real Christ