1. Demons get tormented and they are alive
Matthew 8:29
Suddenly they shouted, “What do You have to do with us, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”
Mark 5:7
And he cried out with a loud voice, “What do You have to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You before God, don’t torment me!”
2. Humans on earth can get tormented by demons
2 Corinthians 12:7
especially because of the extraordinary revelations. Therefore, so that I would not exalt myself, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to torment me so I would not exalt myself.
3. Humans in Hades get tormented, therefore they are alive
Luke 16:23
And being in torment in Hades, he looked up and saw Abraham a long way off, with Lazarus at his side.
Luke 16:28
because I have five brothers—to warn them, so they won’t also come to this place of torment.
4. Humans on Earth will get tormented by demons before Christ returns
Revelation 9:5
They were not permitted to kill them but were to torment them for five months; their torment is like the torment caused by a scorpion when it strikes a man.
5. The torture of humans in Hades never stops, and they are forever alive
Revelation 14:9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”
Revelation 18:7
As much as she glorified herself and lived luxuriously,give her that much torment and grief,for she says in her heart,“I sit as a queen;I am not a widow,and I will never see grief.”
Revelation 18:10
They will stand far off in fear of her torment, saying:Woe, woe, the great city,Babylon, the mighty city!For in a single hour your judgment has come
All Scripture from HCSB
6. THEREFORE:
the torture of humans and demons in Hades never ceases according to the Bible, and that is the ultimate authority
All references that I make or refer to are from the KJV.
1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. DIsagree- hades, sheol and hell is the grave, aka the pit. They are in the earth, and you should know that this earth is NOT eternal, nor shall it be saved or made over. See 2 Peter 3: 10-12 "...the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with
fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
4. Agreed, but its been going for a while now. Probably ever since the mid 1800's, ever since Satan was loosed, from being bound by Jesus, on the day of His Crucifixion/Resurrection. (You probably will have questions about that).
5. DIsagree.
A. The torment of humans STOPS in the day that the graves (hell, hades, sheol) are burned up in the lake of fire.
B. No man was ever given an eternal soul, however God did say that "man became a living soul". Yes, they have no rest in the time of our day or night of 24 hours. How many periods of "day or night" there shall be allowed, will be as long as God allows it, for as it is said in 2 Peter 3 the Heavens
C. Yes! All who do take the MoB will suffer the vengeance of
God's consuming fire, upon the Day of Christ's return
in
Flaming Fire. While Jesus/God is physically present and visible, in all His Glory, in flaming fire, from Heaven in the atmoshere, everything that will burn and can burn, SHALL BURN!!
D. No, their torment doesn't ascend forever, but rather only
the results of them burning up in torment, until there is nothing left to burn, by which is what the "smoke' signifies. Like smoke rising up into the atmosphere, it disipates into nothingness, until its gone.