A Prophetic Word

[Bobby Jo]

... utterly incriminating!

Hmmmmmm, sounds like the Obama Administration:

Obama, Barrack
Biden, Joseph
Jarrett, Valerie
Rice, Susan
McDonough, Denis
Degnan, Kelly
Johnson, Jeh
Lew, Jacob
McGlynn, Arthur (Danny)
Neufield, Mike
Raskin, Sarah
Sheets, Nathan
Szubin, Adam
Sherwood-Randall, Elizabeth
Dempsey, Michael
O'Sullivan, Stephanie
Brennan, John O.
Conion, Patrick
Clapper, James R.
Bell, Robert
Christenson, VADM to NATO
Hursh, James
Litzenberger, to NATO
Lute, Douglas
Parish, Scott
Waser, Tamir
Greehreng, Paul
Power, Samantha
Lynch, Loretta
Yates, Sally
Rosenstein, Rod
Comey, James
McCabe, Andrew
Clinesmith, Kevin
Strzok, Peter
Page, Lisa
Phillips, John R.
Tefft, John
Bass, AMB to Turkey

​

and certainly a DOZEN others, but probably DOZENS.​

And the trail WILL lead to the feet of Obama!

Bobby Jo

 

[K9Buck]

A real "Biblical Prophet" would be those who have never once had a prophecy fail. The Prophets of God in the Bible are legit, there are no modern day prophets just as there are not modern day apostles.

Fwiw...

 

[FollowHim]

Interesting warning.
November and elections, Trump gearing up for challenge to postal votes. There is a speculation bubble in the US stocks at the moment, and financial crisis is always possible. Dreams though often show our projections on forces outside our control.
Covid and November hold a promise of vacinnes that work and tests that show who is infected cheaply and effectively. So a way out seems to be appearing, not the end of the world.

God bless you

 

[Waiting on him]

I find it somewhat disturbing. If God was inspiring people to prophesy, wouldn't He inspire them one by one? Why does Paul tell them this? It seems to me some people were jumping up when they shouldn't have been, claiming to be prophets.

I think in an ideal situation, one prophet could speak and the others could know he was right. What it suggest to me is that false prophets had to be voted down. Someone jumped up, said something wrong, and the other prophets said, "We don't think so." I guess after a while a false prophet might be too embarrassed to speak? It doesn't seem like an ideal solution to me. Verse 30 is somewhat disturbing too.

30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

How could God be inspiring both of them? It looks to me as if Paul wanted the "good prophets" to interrupt someone they thought was a false prophet to make him sit down and be quiet; but couldn't it work the other way around where a false prophet interrupted a "good prophet"?

The situation is similar with speaking in tongues. Some people either thought they were being inspired by God when they weren't or they were just faking it. Why would Paul have to tell them not to all speak at the same time unless people were doing that? Could God have been inspiring them all? I don't think so. Was God inspiring the people who spoke in tongues in public without an interpreter? I don't think so.

I guess early Christianity could be as confused as we are today. Reading the letters of Paul suggests to me that he put people in charge of churches who often didn't know what they doing and who couldn't get answers from God -- so Paul had to keep writing to them. I wonder if he knew what he was doing when he appointed people. "There is nothing new under the sun."

I had to read your response again, because I also find some of the things that Paul says to be odd. I personally believe Paul was giving them room to realize there were no prophets among them and that only in their immaturity were they speaking in tongues. People can hate it if they wish, but Paul was a Cessation supporter. He was giving them specific instructions as how to do things he knew they couldn’t do, kinda like God in the Old Testament telling the Hebrews to put a new heart in their chest.

thanks for the response.

 

[Waiting on him]

Interesting warning.
November and elections, Trump gearing up for challenge to postal votes. There is a speculation bubble in the US stocks at the moment, and financial crisis is always possible. Dreams though often show our projections on forces outside our control.
Covid and November hold a promise of vacinnes that work and tests that show who is infected cheaply and effectively. So a way out seems to be appearing, not the end of the world.

God bless you

The thing about Gods prophets of the Old Testament, is they were valiant. It seems to me that all the alleged modern prophets is their fearful, to the point they’ll nearly crap their pants “ buy guns and lots of ammunition “??? Don’t they know the fearful are among the first to go into the lake of fire?

The individual in the last video says take up your cross and follow me in the end of his joke of a prophesy but he also says Cary a gun, can one Cary a gun and a cross, Jesus didn’t seek to save his life?

 

[Giuliano]

I had to read your response again, because I also find some of the things that Paul says to be odd. I personally believe Paul was giving them room to realize there were no prophets among them and that only in their immaturity were they speaking in tongues. People can hate it if they wish, but Paul was a Cessation supporter. He was giving them specific instructions as how to do things he knew they couldn’t do, kinda like God in the Old Testament telling the Hebrews to put a new heart in their chest.

thanks for the response.

It makes my head reel. If he believed that, why wouldn't say as much? If he started those churches, why were those things allowed to begin with? Why did he write:

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

That brings up the question if Paul was an apostle? He calls himself that, and the book of Acts refers to him as that; but no one else does. Indeed Revelation has this curious verse:

Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

I get confused. Sometimes I think maybe different people were using words in different ways. As for cessationism? I read what he wrote about that to agree with what the Jews teach. That various of the gifts can cease because of old age. If the physical body gets tired and weak or ill, the mind also becomes dull because of the distraction. Jews teach then that it's a moral obligation to try to stay fit.

 

[Waiting on him]

It makes my head reel. If he believed that, why wouldn't say as much? If he started those churches, why were those things allowed to begin with? Why did he write:

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

That brings up the question if Paul was an apostle? He calls himself that, and the book of Acts refers to him as that; but no one else does. Indeed Revelation has this curious verse:

Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

I get confused. Sometimes I think maybe different people were using words in different ways. As for cessationism? I read what he wrote about that to agree with what the Jews teach. That various of the gifts can cease because of old age. If the physical body gets tired and weak or ill, the mind also becomes dull because of the distraction. Jews teach then that it's a moral obligation to try to stay fit.

I believe the office of an Apostle was placed by God for a specific era, and only gifted to these certain men for a certain purpose, and that would be the deliverance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be carried to the known world which Paul states was completed.

 

[Giuliano]

I believe the office of an Apostle was placed by God for a specific era, and only gifted to these certain men for a certain purpose, and that would be the deliverance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be carried to the known world which Paul states was completed.

I agree. I think they had to know Jesus personally and receive instruction from him personally for between three and three and half years. I don't think Paul would have been ready to be an apostle immediately, and what he wrote in Galatians 1 about spending three years makes sense to me. I think he was being instructed by Jesus for those three years in Arabia.

The people who pop up today giving themselves the title of apostle don't seem like apostles to me.

 

[Waiting on him]

It makes my head reel. If he believed that, why wouldn't say as much? If he started those churches, why were those things allowed to begin with? Why did he write:

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

That brings up the question if Paul was an apostle? He calls himself that, and the book of Acts refers to him as that; but no one else does. Indeed Revelation has this curious verse:

Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

I get confused. Sometimes I think maybe different people were using words in different ways. As for cessationism? I read what he wrote about that to agree with what the Jews teach. That various of the gifts can cease because of old age. If the physical body gets tired and weak or ill, the mind also becomes dull because of the distraction. Jews teach then that it's a moral obligation to try to stay fit.

Everyone wants to be a prophet, healer, what ever to seem to have a special purpose. My opinion and as stated only an opinion is God has already redeemed Israel. She was a barren widow, but now is above and free, the mother of us all, still daily many are born of her due to the seed of Jesus, the kinsman redeemer. Many want to assign what has taken place to a future event in effect taking away credit for what has happened when we should be praising God for what He has done.

 

[Hidden In Him]

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

That brings up the question if Paul was an apostle? He calls himself that, and the book of Acts refers to him as that; but no one else does. Indeed Revelation has this curious verse:

Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars

Um... Giuliano, I don't recommend you doubt the apostle Paul was an apostle. By pairing that contention with Revelations 2:2 you are insinuating he was not only not an apostle of God, but a false apostle by lying about it. That sort of belief could mess up your theology so badly you would end up teaching all sorts of heresy if you gave yourself to that way of thinking. I also can't believe Waiting would post a Like to that post, although maybe he was just being friendly.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Everyone wants to be a prophet, healer, what ever to seem to have a special purpose. My opinion and as stated only an opinion is God has already redeemed Israel. She was a barren widow, but now is above and free, the mother of us all, still daily many are born of her due to the seed of Jesus, the kinsman redeemer. Many want to assign what has taken place to a future event in effect taking away credit for what has happened when we should be praising God for what He has done.

Waiting, this assumes that Israel was the only nation God cared about, and that He has no concern for the nations of the earth today, since you believe He isn't prophesying to them anymore. But this contention runs completely contrary to the gospel. As of the outpouring upon Cornelius and his house, it became clear to the early church that the Lord was now going to reach out to the nations as ever before, and that continues to this day.

Why would He no longer care about the nations, other than to hope they read the Bible, because He has nothing to say to them about their current situations?

 

[Hidden In Him]

The thing about Gods prophets of the Old Testament, is they were valiant. It seems to me that all the alleged modern prophets is their fearful, to the point they’ll nearly crap their pants “ buy guns and lots of ammunition “??? Don’t they know the fearful are among the first to go into the lake of fire?

The individual in the last video says take up your cross and follow me in the end of his joke of a prophesy but he also says Cary a gun, can one Cary a gun and a cross, Jesus didn’t seek to save his life?

I don't need a gun. I have never needed a gun. And I have said numerous times on this forum that no army on earth can or ever will stop me from fulfilling my calling. I've also stated that death doesn't scare me in the least, in fact I welcome it if the Lord wills. You make too many assumptions about people.

 

[Hidden In Him]

People can hate it if they wish, but Paul was a Cessation supporter.

This one I may have to start a thread on.

 

[Waiting on him]

Waiting, this assumes that Israel was the only nation God cared about, and that He has no concern for the nations of the earth today, since you believe He isn't prophesying to them anymore. But this contention runs completely contrary to the gospel. As of the outpouring upon Cornelius and his house, it became clear to the early church that the Lord was now going to reach out to the nations as ever before, and that continues to this day.

Why would He no longer care about the nations, other than to hope they read the Bible, because He has nothing to say to them about their current situations?

We are all born from what God has accomplished with Israel.

 

[Waiting on him]

I don't need a gun. I have never needed a gun. And I have said numerous times on this forum that no army on earth can or ever will stop me from fulfilling my calling. I've also stated that death doesn't scare me in the least, in fact I welcome it if the Lord wills. You make too many assumptions about people.

Was that you in the video?

 

[Hidden In Him]

Sorry, still no comfort.

Waiting, God's message is not all about comfort. In the garden, the enemy lied to the woman, and brought death and suffering into the world. And the Lord addressed that serpent and the woman and told them that ENMITY would exist between their seeds from henceforth. In other words, WAR was coming. In Job, Satan destroyed everything the man had and loved, but by fighting against the temptation to reject God, in the end Job was victorious over Satan, and had all that was stolen from him returned to him and more. I could speak at length about how the Israelites had to fight against Satan throughout their entire history. I could speak at length about how the apostles did as well, and how Paul made continual reference to fighting the good fight of faith and standing strong in the face of the enemy's attacks as a soldier of the Lord Jesus Christ.

It was Paul who wrote for us the words,

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; 19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

The message the Lord is giving the church is not always one of comfort. Often times He speaks to us that we must prepare for war against our spiritual enemy, and stand against him until the battle is won. This is the message of the vision I posted for you.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Was that you in the video?

No. And it is not him you are talking to now. Why is my life and my opinion rendered invalid in the discussion?

 

[Hidden In Him]

We are all born from what God has accomplished with Israel.

And so since we are born of what God accomplished through Israel, He no longer speaks to the nations? What are you saying?

 

[Giuliano]

Um... Giuliano, I don't recommend you doubt the apostle Paul was an apostle. By pairing that contention with Revelations 2:2 you are insinuating he was not only not an apostle of God, but a false apostle by lying about it. That sort of belief could mess up your theology so badly you would end up teaching all sorts of heresy if you gave yourself to that way of thinking. I also can't believe Waiting would post a Like to that post, although maybe he was just being friendly.

I could go on for pages about my reservations about Paul. When he contradicts Jesus, he leaves me very confused. Sometimes too I wonder if all the books attributed to Paul were actually written by him.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I didn't always support the Cessationism viewpoint. I actually come from the opposite background. So, no, I'm not missing anything.

But we answered this for you. You are missing plenty because you willingly associated yourself with people operating in false gifts when you should have known better, and now you are associating yourself with false beliefs because you should still know better. Your history by your own admission is of someone who has allowed himself to be deceived, and yet you don't see that you still could be.