Very big GAP in the trinity

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Truther

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He had no sin because he cannot sin, he is from God, he is the Son of God, he has the same spirit as he does. In him flows "divine blood", he cannot sin.
That is what I believe. He is the son of the living God.
He could have sinned, but chose not to.

He overcame sin and carnality....

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
 

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Was Jesus God then, and was the Father God in heaven?
No, here is how it was when Jesus was on earth...


19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation
 

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ERROR, there is only one on the throne, because it's only one throne scripture, Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
"Revelation 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."

so again I ask who is setting on the throne.

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Jesus was sitting right next to the father, by his side, as per King david and author of Hebrews!
 

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No, here is how it was when Jesus was on earth...


19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation
So there was no God ion heaven, but on Earth as jesus?
 

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My wife and I sat on the sofa.
AND? ...... you nor your wife is God....... (smile).

ok class is open, it is JESUS, GOD almighty who sits on the throne, NOW Glorified in the "diversified" state, the ordinal Last. and it is JESUS who stand resurrected before the throne, the ordinal First, whom you calls the Father, who is the G243 allos of himself who sits on the throne. READ THAT AGAIN, BINGO. "I am the First/the Father, and I am the Last/Son the NUMERIAL DIFFERENCE, but the SAME SORT..... now is sent into all the earth who is the Holy Spirit, God himself, the ordinal First. because the one standing was sent... listen.... scripture, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." QUESTION, who was sent? lets see, John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"
John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

so who came? the Lord Jesus, who is the First, and the Last, the Comforter, ONE person "diversified". now we know who stands before the throne and is sent inot all the EARTH. now step two, who sits on the Throne, ANSWER, our Great high priest, the advocate, or the mediator betweem him the Spirit and men, the ordinal Last, .... drum roll .......... the Son.

well now, one would say how can this be. we will tell you if you want the TRUTH. ..... (smile). just start with Phil 2:6..... :eek:

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is not I and the Father ONE.....

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Yes, per John 17, unified by the Holy Ghost, not the same person....


21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.


God inside Christ...inside us.
 

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Jesus was sitting right next to the father, by his side, as per King david and author of Hebrews!
That was a vision. Jesus and his Father are both omnipresent and light.

Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
 

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Jesus was sitting right next to the father, by his side, as per King david and author of Hebrews!
ERROR, there is no one next to anyone. again do you understand what "WITH" means in John 1:1 and in Isaiah 41:4? I guess not.
↑Truther said
No, here is how it was when Jesus was on earth...


19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation


Fan 1 said, "So there was no God ion heaven, but on Earth as jesus?"

this is what I been trying to get you fellas to see, GOD is a "diversity" of himself in Flesh. again see Phil 2:6.

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Yes, Jesus had the nature of Himself as God in there!
The Holy Ghost is the Divine nature that the man Christ Jesus had, along with his own human nature.

Just like us today.

Jesus had no personal "Divine" nature of his own.
 

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Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
ONLY means ONE, and Jesus is the only immortal one, meaning having "EVER LASTING LIFE. as Isaiah 9:6 clearly states, the EVER LASTING Father"... :p

all of you are just poking in the dark. get some light into your heads, now go to Phil 2:6 and get the answer to the TRUTH.

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The Holy Ghost is the Divine nature that the man Christ Jesus had, along with his own human nature.

Just like us today.

Jesus had no personal "Divine" nature of his own.
so your jesus was no different than you.
 

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He could have sinned, but chose not to.

He overcame sin and carnality....

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
What do you want to show with this verse now? You contradict yourself. We both testify that he was sinless, and now he says whoever overcomes like him will sit on the throne. The "overcoming like him" is not meant in the sense you understand it, since he is sinless, we are not. If one were to understand it as you do, then no man can be saved, since no man can be sinless. So with "overcome" here clearly another sense is meant.

He cannot sin, because he is not only human, but also divine; he could never sin, because his nature does not permit it.
 

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The Holy Ghost is the Divine nature that the man Christ Jesus had, along with his own human nature.

Just like us today.

Jesus had no personal "Divine" nature of his own.
ERROR, you better read Phil 2:6

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2 Cor 5:19
ERROR, there is no one next to anyone. again do you understand what "WITH" means in John 1:1 and in Isaiah 41:4? I guess not.
↑Truther said
No, here is how it was when Jesus was on earth...


19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation


Fan 1 said, "So there was no God ion heaven, but on Earth as jesus?"

this is what I been trying to get you fellas to see, GOD is a "diversity" of himself in Flesh. again see Phil 2:6.

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2 Cor 5:19 says God was IN(inside) Christ..., not WITH(alongside) Christ.

What made you think that?
 

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ONLY means ONE, and Jesus is the only immortal one, meaning having "EVER LASTING LIFE. as Isaiah 9:6 clearly states, the EVER LASTING Father"... :p

all of you are just poking in the dark. get some light into your heads, now go to Phil 2:6 and get the answer to the TRUTH.

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Jesus said you and your wife are one. Unified as one or one person?
 

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The last Adam was without sin, unlike me.

The last Adam was the only begotten son of God, unlike me.

The last Adam had the Holy Ghost without measure, unlike me.
Thanks for clarifying the distinctions. But you left out the most important He is God, called God, worshiped as God, created all things as God and is before any created thing as the Eternal God unlike you and I.