Very big GAP in the trinity

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Jesus was and is God Himself, and God was still in Heaven, as the father, and the Holy Spirit was with Jesus leading and directing him!
 

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now, class resume .
FORM, G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313

Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

BEING is present tense. so his NATURE is the same or EQUAL "WITH", the Spirit, for GOD is a, a, a, Spirit. but God, the "I", and the "me" said there is no one "EQUAL" with him. so what is the solution, what is the answer that harmonize both scriptures?
the answer is in the root of FORM, G3444 μορφή morphe, which is G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n. and it's definition is,
G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n.
1. a portion (i.e. an amount allotted, a part of something).
2. a part.
3. (as an adverb) partly, in part.
4. (as a participle) participating (i.e. the act of taking part in).
5. a piece (i.e. a limited portion).
6. (of location) a district.
7. (of livelihood) an occupation (i.e. as ones' portion in life).
8. a portion in Jesus (see John 13:8).
{literally or figuratively, in a wide application}
[from an obsolete but more primary form of μείρομαι mȇírȏmai “to get as a section or allotment”]
KJV: behalf, course, coast, craft, particular (+ -ly), part (+ -ly), piece, portion, respect, side, some sort(-what)

definition #1, gives us the answer, and the harmonizing of the scriptures. 1. a portion, Question, what is another word for portion? answer, "SHARE". BINGO. the Lord Jesus is the "EQUAL SHARE" of himself in flesh, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me." MINE is "MY", as in "my" Father in heaven, "my" shared Spirit in Heaven, but why is the Lord Jesus on EARTH, is identified as "spirt" insted of "Spirit", with the cap "S?" answer, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:" or empited himself of his powers.

that's why he, the Spirit is in Heaven while at the same time on earth without powers. BECAUSE HE'S THE EQUAL "SHARE" OF HIMSELF IN FLESH IN A G2758 κενόω kenoo STATE. ... MY GOD HOW EASY THIS IS IF ONE JUST STUDY SO SHOW THYSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD.

as the EQUAL "SHARE" of his ownself in flesh he can sit on the THRONE, and be "before" it in the EARTH at the same time. as the EQUAL :SHARE" of his OWNSELF, per Isaiah 63:5. he's the Father, the ordinal FIRST, CREATOR, and MAKER OF ALL THINGS, and in his Diversified state of Flesh and bones, with blood, he as the ordinal last, the Last ADAM, per Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"Philippians 2:8 "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." as the Last Adam, "SHARED" in flesh, with blood, he could die for our sins, and leave them in that old man called the flesh, (wonder why God came in flesh now?). from that flesh to die from, and be resurrected in a glorified new body which he have now in HEAVEN, as High priest, and mediator, or advocate. and on ERATH, (Spirit), now as COMFORTER and MEDIATOR. BINGO.

see the difference between Diversified Oneness, and a three person system, it is "SHARED" vs "SEPARATION". NOT two or three person, no, for God is the EQUAL "SHARE" of himself in flesh, ONE PERSON, get that truther... (smile), it's the same person, only "shared", not separated in to three, oh what ignorance of the scriptures. God is not a seperate God of person, NO, he's the "EQUAL SHARE" of himself in flesh. did you not hear John? "ANOTHER" not two, but another of the same, "the EQUAL SHARE", the NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE of G243 allos.... (smile), BINGO.

"SHARE" vs your "SEPARATE" person. see that's how one harmonize the scriptures by rooting out words, see what they actually mean. LET THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE YOU. as our Lord said, there are many things I can tell you, but you cannot bare them. oh there is much , much so much more to "diversified Oneness", from Genesis to Revelation.

but you now have the basic, or the building blocks. so there is no excuse now. it's what you do with it. leave it alone, or try to understand it, it's your choice. just keep Revelation 22:11 in the back of your minds.

we suggest one re-read this post.

Good day.

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Thanks for clarifying the distinctions. But you left out the most important He is God, called God, worshiped as God, created all things as God and is before any created thing as the Eternal God unlike you and I.
People are making thins way too hard, as its Jesus is God, and the father is, and the Holy Spirit at same time!
 
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People are making thins way too hard, as its Jesus is God, and the father is, and the Holy Spirit at same time!
Agreed as we know in many places in Scripture each Person is called God. But since people read their own doctrines into scripture they deny this truth.
 

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People are making thins way too hard, as its Jesus is God, and the father is, and the Holy Spirit at same time!
true, so lets get is right, there is only the Holy Spirit who hold both titles... titles "Father", and "Son", who is JESUS. see, all those separate and distinct person are nothing but a deception.

step #1. know that JESUS is the only TRUE GOD.... the Holy Spirit.

step #2. Jesus the Holy Spirit holds the title "Father", and "Son".

step #3. get the notion out of one's head that titles are PERSONS. get that garbage out of your heads. titles are not persons.

step #4. re-new your mind by studying definitions and rooting them out. stay not ignorant, when truth is available.

that will get one started.

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neither, was second Person of the Godhead came to earth as a Human!

Concerning the 2nd Person in the Godhead (Jesus Christ, the Son)...

Is it not true that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him (John 14:7-11)?

Jesus rebuked Philip for not knowing Him...and immediately afterward told Philip that He who has seen Him has seen the Father.

But certain people are blinded to the implications of this; because they have a Tritheisitc view of God and want to call it the Trinity.
 

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The Lamb of God is God.
another ERROR on your part. the Lamb of is flesh and bone with blood. the Lamb of god have blood... :eek: the Lamb don't. see if your bible tells you that the "Lamb of God" is in heave with blood? there is no Lamb of God in heaven, but there's a "Lamb" in heaven.... (smile).

check and see.....

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Concerning the 2nd Person in the Godhead (Jesus Christ, the Son)...

Is it not true that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him (John 14:7-11)?

Jesus rebuked Philip for not knowing Him...and immediately afterward told Philip that He who has seen Him has seen the Father.

But certain people are blinded to the implications of this; because they have a Tritheisitc view of God and want to call it the Trinity.
that's correct to a point, for who have seen him have seen the life/Father, supportive scripture, 1 John 1:1 "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;"
1 John 1:2 "(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)"

well that just got those who claim John 17:3 say the only true God and Jesus are not the same, well John don't agree with that false doctrine... :eek:

John clearly said, "For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us".

WITH THE FATHER..... "WITH?" (smile), one should know by now what "with" means. it's the same person. see how the scriptures harmonize when one has the TRUTH. everything just fall into place.

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true, so lets get is right, there is only the Holy Spirit who hold both titles... titles "Father", and "Son", who is JESUS. see, all those separate and distinct person are nothing but a deception.

step #1. know that JESUS is the only TRUE GOD.... the Holy Spirit.

step #2. Jesus the Holy Spirit holds the title "Father", and "Son".

step #3. get the notion out of one's head that titles are PERSONS. get that garbage out of your heads. titles are not persons.

step #4. re-new your mind by studying definitions and rooting them out. stay not ignorant, when truth is available.

that will get one started.

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Oneness is heresy, as is Modualism!
 

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Concerning the 2nd Person in the Godhead (Jesus Christ, the Son)...

Is it not true that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him (John 14:7-11)?

Jesus rebuked Philip for not knowing Him...and immediately afterward told Philip that He who has seen Him has seen the Father.

But certain people are blinded to the implications of this; because they have a Tritheisitc view of God and want to call it the Trinity.
Jesus is the physical expression and image of the father, as he does the same miracles and says the same things as the father, but is NOT the father!
 

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Jesus is the physical expression and image of the father, as he does the same miracles and says the same things as the father, but is NOT the father!
Jesus is the Father shared in flesh as our example. that physical expression, or Image is the Father's to come in as the equal share who did miracles, listen, Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."

who came and save us? .... :eek: now that was the set up verse for the very verses after this is the kicker, listen,
Isaiah 35:5 "Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped."
Isaiah 35:6 "Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert."
Isaiah 35:7 "And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes."
Isaiah 35:8 "And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein."
Isaiah 35:9 "No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:"
Isaiah 35:10 "And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away." :eek:

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Jesus is the physical expression and image of the father, as he does the same miracles and says the same things as the father, but is NOT the father!
Jesus is "The everlasting Father" (Isaiah 9:6).

To deny this you have to change the wording of the scripture in question twice.
 

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Who(THE LAST ADAM), being in the form of God(HUMAN FORM), thought it not robbery to be equal with God(BECAUSE HE DID NOT SIN).
Not because he has not sinned but because he is the Son of God. Not to sin is a attribute of his nature.
 
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Not because he has not sinned but because he is the Son of God. Not to sin is a attribute of his nature.
To be an overcomer as he is confessing to be in Rev is to remain sinless through temptation. He was human like the 1st Adam, which was made perfect with the ability to sin.

Paul referred to him as the last Adam because of this similarity.
 

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To be an overcomer as he is confessing to be in Rev is to remain sinless through temptation. He was human like the 1st Adam, which was made perfect with the ability to sin.

Paul referred to him as the last Adam because of this similarity.
Romans 8:19 "For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God."

Romans 8:20 "For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope," God is not a CREATURE.... we're.. :eek:

Romans 8:21 "Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God." BINGO.

Romans 8:22 "For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."

Romans 8:23 "And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body."

Romans 8:24 "For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?"

Romans 8:25 "But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it."

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To be an overcomer as he is confessing to be in Rev is to remain sinless through temptation. He was human like the 1st Adam, which was made perfect with the ability to sin.

Paul referred to him as the last Adam because of this similarity.
Jesus was and is Yahweh in Human flesh, can God sin?