Very big GAP in the trinity

[Truther]

What do you want to show with this verse now? You contradict yourself. We both testify that he was sinless, and now he says whoever overcomes like him will sit on the throne. The "overcoming like him" is not meant in the sense you understand it, since he is sinless, we are not. If one were to understand it as you do, then no man can be saved, since no man can be sinless. So with "overcome" here clearly another sense is meant.

He cannot sin, because he is not only human, but also divine; he could never sin, because his nature does not permit it.

He was called the Last Adam by Paul.

This implies a redo of the 1st Adam, not a God man.

This implies that the last Adam had to fix the first Adam's blunder, not God had to fix it for the first Adam.

If God Himself became the last Adam, then He blew it and had to do the job His failed creation messed up.

Kinda like a boss that poorly trained his employees and does their job for them...

 

[Truther]

ERROR, you better read Phil 2:6

PICJAG.

You mean when the man Christ Jesus thought it not robbery?....

 

[Truther]

Thanks for clarifying the distinctions. But you left out the most important He is God, called God, worshiped as God, created all things as God and is before any created thing as the Eternal God unlike you and I.

The last Adam, which was MADE a quickening spirit was always God or MADE God?

 

[101G]

2 Cor 5:19

2 Cor 5:19 says God was IN(inside) Christ..., not WITH(alongside) Christ.

What made you think that?

what is Christ? not who, but what.... (smile), listen up, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

what do Form here means? it's the Greek word
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313

now Jesus have the SAME NATURE, which is Spirit. now the million dollar question, "What kind of Spirit", EQUALLY of course, but did not God say, Isaiah 40:25 "To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One." me and I are single person desiginations. NOW IF JESUS IS A SEPARATE PERSON, THIS VERSE OF SCRIPTURES CONTRIDICTS PHIL 2:6 .... UNLESS..????? that I'll hold for now, (smile). so God the "I" and the "me", here have no EQUAL, so all who holds that the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost are all EQUAL is a in a LIE. just read Isaiah 40:25, or Isaiah 46:5 .

so now you who believe that the Father is one person and the Son another separate and distinct person well Isaiah 40:25, and Isaiah 46:5 say you're in error. MEANING THE SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING THAT YOU WHO BELIEVE THAT THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE TWO SEPARATE PERSON ARE BELIEVING A LIE. that's scriptures saying that, not 101G.

but to get the truth as to why JESUS is "EQUAL" ... "WITH" the Spirit God, is found in the root of G3444 μορφή morphe in the above definition.
root it out......
so you all are in ERROR, root out G3444 μορφή morphe and one will have their answer.

PICJAG.

 

[ChristisGod]

The last Adam, which was MADE a quickening spirit was always God or MADE God?

no one can be made god, Jesus has always been God.

 

[Truther]

what is Christ? not who, but what.... (smile), listen up, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

what do Form here means? it's the Greek word
G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n.
1. form.
2. (intrinsically) fundamental nature.
[perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts)]
KJV: form
Root(s): G3313

now Jesus have the SAME NATURE, which is Spirit. now the million dollar question, "What kind of Spirit", EQUALLY of course, but did not God say, Isaiah 40:25 "To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One." me and I are single person desiginations. NOW IF JESUS IS A SEPARATE PERSON, THIS VERSE OF SCRIPTURES CONTRIDICTS PHIL 2:6 .... UNLESS..????? that I'll hold for now, (smile). so God the "I" and the "me", here have no EQUAL, so all who holds that the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost are all EQUAL is a in a LIE. just read Isaiah 40:25, or Isaiah 46:5 .

so now you who believe that the Father is one person and the Son another separate and distinct person well Isaiah 40:25, and Isaiah 46:5 say you're in error. MEANING THE SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING THAT YOU WHO BELIEVE THAT THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE TWO SEPARATE PERSON ARE BELIEVING A LIE. that's scriptures saying that, not 101G.

but to get the truth as to why JESUS is "EQUAL" ... "WITH" the Spirit God, is found in the root of G3444 μορφή morphe in the above definition.
root it out......
so you all are in ERROR, root out G3444 μορφή morphe and one will have their answer.

PICJAG.

Here is what you are needing to see....

6 Who(THE LAST ADAM), being in the form of God(HUMAN FORM), thought it not robbery to be equal with God(BECAUSE HE DID NOT SIN).

7 But made himself of no reputation(DENYING HIMSELF OF HIS ROYALTY AS THE BEGOTTEN SON) , and took upon him the form of a servant(ROLE), and was made in the likeness of men(MADE HUMAN, NOT A GOD/MAN)

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself(HUMBLE MAN), and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross(DEAD MAN).

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him(EXALTED BY HIS GOD), and given him a name which is above every name(NAMED HIM).

 

[Truther]

no one can be made god, Jesus has always been God.

Can God die, but a man not be made God?

 

[101G]

Here is what you are needing to see....

6 Who(THE LAST ADAM), being in the form of God(HUMAN FORM), thought it not robbery to be equal with God(BECAUSE HE DID NOT SIN).

7 But made himself of no reputation(DENYING HIMSELF OF HIS ROYALTY AS THE BEGOTTEN SON) , and took upon him the form of a servant(ROLE), and was made in the likeness of men(MADE HUMAN, NOT A GOD/MAN)

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself(HUMBLE MAN), and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross(DEAD MAN).

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him(EXALTED BY HIS GOD), and given him a name which is above every name(NAMED HIM).

ERROR again, see Truther, phil 2:6 and 7 end where Isaiah 63:5 begans,
I will not sit here and argue with you anymore, if you refuse to believe the scriptures by rooting out G3444 μορφή morphe, then I leave you with Revelation 22:11. (kjv)

Good day.

PICJAG.

 

[Truther]

ERROR again, see Truther, phil 2:6 and 7 end where Isaiah 63:5 begans,
I will not sit here and argue with you anymore, if you refuse to believe the scriptures by rooting out G3444 μορφή morphe, then I leave you with Revelation 22:11. (kjv)

Good day.

PICJAG.

Okay, have it your way...



6 Who, GOD being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with HIMSELF:

7 But GOD made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant GOD, and GOD was made in the likeness of men:

8 And GOD being found in fashion as a man, he(GOD) humbled himself(TO THE DEVIL AND MAN), and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross(GOD DIED).

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted himSELF, and given himSELF a name which is above every name:

 

[ChristisGod]

Can God die, but a man not be made God?

as a man yes which is why the Incarnation was necessary for no mere man can give his life to redeem anyone or as a ransom for another.


Psalm 49:7
No man can by any means redeem his brother
Or give to God a ransom for him

hope this helps !!!

 

[Truther]

as a man yes which is why the Incarnation was necessary for no mere man can give his life to redeem anyone or as a ransom for another.


Psalm 49:7
No man can by any means redeem his brother
Or give to God a ransom for him

hope this helps !!!

So God died? Jesus was not a man?

 

[ChristisGod]

So God died?

God as a man suffered and died. By death meaning His body was dead but He was alive in Spirit. When we die we do not cease to exist but to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Jesus told the thief on the cross that after their death he would be with Him in Paradise that very day.

hope this helps !!!

 

[101G]

Okay, have it your way...



6 Who, GOD being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with HIMSELF:

7 But GOD made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant GOD, and GOD was made in the likeness of men:

8 And GOD being found in fashion as a man, he(GOD) humbled himself(TO THE DEVIL AND MAN), and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross(GOD DIED).

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted himSELF, and given himSELF a name which is above every name:

what's wrong, why add?...... see your problem, you didn't root out the word did you?. that's why I leave you with Rev 22:11.

2 Thessalonians 3:14 "And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed."
2 Thessalonians 3:15 "Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother."

PICJAG.

 

[Truther]

God as a man suffered and died. By death meaning His body was dead but He was alive in Spirit. When we die we do not cease to exist but to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Jesus told the thief on the cross that after their death he would be with Him in Paradise that very day.

hope this helps !!!

God, suffered, God died, God rose from the dead, God humbled Himself to His wretched creation etc?

Looks like God felt bad about his actions?

 

[Truther]

what's wrong, why add?...... see your problem, you didn't root out the word did you?. that's why I leave you with Rev 22:11.

2 Thessalonians 3:14 "And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed."
2 Thessalonians 3:15 "Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother."

PICJAG.

Don't for get bro., I taught that as an incarnationist(oneness) teacher, just like you do.

I recommend you take a hard look at Phil 2, per the incarnationists view point, instead of glossing over it.

 

[ChristisGod]

God, suffered, God died, God rose from the dead, God humbled Himself to His wretched creation etc?

Looks like God felt bad about his actions?

it was planned that way prior to creation for the Son was the Lamb who was slain before the foundation of the world ( Revelation 13:8).

hope this helps !!!

 

[Truther]

it was planned that way prior to creation for the Son was the Lamb who was slain before the foundation of the world ( Revelation 13:8).

hope this helps !!!

The lamb was God or the lamb OF God?

 

[ChristisGod]

The lamb was God or the lamb OF God?

The Lamb of God is God.

 

[Truther]

The Lamb of God is God.

Revelation 22:3 - And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
2 God's?

 

[YeshuaFan1]

ERROR, there is no one next to anyone. again do you understand what "WITH" means in John 1:1 and in Isaiah 41:4? I guess not.
↑Truther said
No, here is how it was when Jesus was on earth...


19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation

Fan 1 said, "So there was no God ion heaven, but on Earth as jesus?"

this is what I been trying to get you fellas to see, GOD is a "diversity" of himself in Flesh. again see Phil 2:6.

PICJAG.