Apparitions of the Virgin Mary

[Candidus]

You want me to believe the bigotry posted ion CARM?

Believing or not it is certainly your option. The same way it is an option for anyone to believe Roman Catholic propaganda and hate towards those that don't believe their unbiblical fantasies.

 

[YeshuaFan1]

You want me to believe the bigotry posted ion CARM?

How about this then?
4 Catholic Beliefs About Mary That Protestants Reject

 

[marks]

Hi marks,

I have to be honest with you. That makes no sense. ALL sin is justified in Christs death. What does that mean?

Scenario: If I willfully sin today and NEVER asked God or the person I harmed for forgiveness of that sin and 10 years from now I die never acknowledging that I committed that sin is that sin “justified in Christs death”?

Maybe I should clarify: what do YOU mean by “justified in Christs death”!!!!

The only way that sin can be removed, absolved, forgiven, sent away, however you want to say it . . . if we are to be free from our sins, in any sense, it is because Jesus took our sin on Him, and He died, and those sins, the sin of the world, was carried away by Jesus in His death.

So, the sin I committed as a child, and last year, and this morning, and tomorrow, God forbid!, and a year from now, all of those sins are justified in Christ's death. There is no other act of expiation that removes or otherwise forgives our sins. Only the death of Christ.

All sin is justified in Christ's death, and no sin is justifed outside of Christ's death.

"The one who has died has been justified away from sin" (Romans 6)

More specifically, in Christ's death and resurrection.

Is there any other act or circumstance by which God has dealt with our sins? For instance, I can confess, and ask forgiveness, but those acts don't remove my sins, do they? My sins are removed in Jesus' death, and I'm reconciled to God by Jesus' death, but I receive that reconciliation when I confess my sins, and trust in Him. But confession and trust are empty if Christ is not died and risen again (1 Cor 15).

Your thoughts?

Much love!

 

[Candidus]

So you admit now that your claim "She is dead" was a false claim.
Rather like your other claims.

And necromancy is still a sin.

 

[marks]

Hello marks,

Can you clarify this statement for me?

I can't imagine any sin let alone all sin to be justifiable..

Peace!

Perhaps I'm not being clear, I'm sorry, hopefully this will help . . .

Apparitions of the Virgin Mary

Much love!

 

[Candidus]

The only way that sin can be removed, absolved, forgiven, sent away, however you want to say it . . . if we are to be free from our sins, in any sense, it is because Jesus took our sin on Him, and He died, and those sins, the sin of the world, was carried away by Jesus in His death.

So, the sin I committed as a child, and last year, and this morning, and tomorrow, God forbid!, and a year from now, all of those sins are justified in Christ's death. There is no other act of expiation that removes or otherwise forgives our sins. Only the death of Christ.

All sin is justified in Christ's death, and no sin is justified outside of Christ's death.

"The one who has died has been justified away from sin" (Romans 6)

More specifically, in Christ's death and resurrection.

Is there any other act or circumstance by which God has dealt with our sins? For instance, I can confess, and ask forgiveness, but those acts don't remove my sins, do they? My sins are removed in Jesus' death, and I'm reconciled to God by Jesus' death, but I receive that reconciliation when I confess my sins, and trust in Him. But confession and trust are empty if Christ is not died and risen again (1 Cor 15).

Your thoughts?

Much love!

No one who has lived since the Cross had their sins forgiven on the Cross. Scripture does not bear that out.

If this unbiblical assumption is to be true, the following must be true:

1). No ne ever "gets saved" but can only wake up to realize that they have been saved all this time.
2). Faith or belief have nothing to do with salvation; either Christ loves you and saved you on the cross, or He hates you and did nothing for you. What sin could possibly exist for the person who hates a "god" that already hates them? What do they "owe" such a "god"?
3). You are predestined to heaven or hell no matter what you believe or what you do. Eat, Drink and be Merry! It's better to laugh with the Sinners than cry with the Saints!
4). If Jesus really died for the "Whole World," this makes Universalism to be true. "And He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our sins only, but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 Jn. 2:2. Evangelism would be completely pointless.

 

[marks]

If this unbiblical assumption is to be true, the following must be true:

1). No ne ever "gets saved" but can only wake up to realize that they have been saved all this time.
2). Faith or belief have nothing to do with salvation; either Christ loves you and saved you on the cross, or He hates you and did nothing for you. What sin could possibly exist for the person who hates a "god" that already hates them? What do they "owe" such a "god"?
3). You are predestined to heaven or hell no matter what you believe or what you do.
4). If Jesus really died for the "Whole World," and Universalism is true. "And He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our sins only, but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 Jn. 2:2.

I would disagree, just as we are taugh in 2 Corinthians 5, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, and now, through His apostles, urges us, that we receive this reconciliation.

God has reconciled us to Himself, but that will not do us any good unless we receive it. And we receive it in faith.

Much love!

 

[Candidus]

I would disagree, just as we are taugh in 2 Corinthians 5, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, and now, through His apostles, urges us, that we receive this reconciliation.

God has reconciled us to Himself, but that will not do us any good unless we receive it. And we receive it in faith.

Much love!

Reconciliation is not forgiveness of sins. No sins are forgiven on the Cross.

 

[Illuminator]

CARM is run by anti-Catholic Calvinist Matt Slick. I've been on that forum years ago. If you refute an error, your post gets deleted. It's the most dishonest LYING forum on the internet.

 

[Candidus]

I would disagree, just as we are taugh in 2 Corinthians 5, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, and now, through His apostles, urges us, that we receive this reconciliation.

God has reconciled us to Himself, but that will not do us any good unless we receive it. And we receive it in faith.

Much love!

The verse previous to this addresses believers... "Therefore if any man be in Christ..."

"But all things are of God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ, and gave unto us the ministry of reconciliation;"

Speaking of and to believers.

"to wit, that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not reckoning unto them their trespasses, and having committed unto us the word of reconciliation."

The word "reconciling" is in the present tense concerning the "world." It is presently occurring, not something completed in the past.

 

[Candidus]

CARM is run by anti-Catholic Calvinist Matt Slick. I've been on that forum years ago. If you refute an error, your post gets deleted. It's the most dishonest LYING forum on the internet.

He is a Calvinist that becomes unhinged if you challenge his side enough or you will be deleted and banned. (I have been banned for repeating a claim by a Calvinist that the Sovereign God must be the Author of sin, (which was applauded on the Forum) and responding with the obvious... that he is saying that God and the Devil are the same person.)

Yet, the issue is not the Forum, but whether what he says has any merit. An ad hominem does not make everything he writes to be untrue. If I used your logic, I would not believe in the Trinity, since Roman Catholicism believes it.

If you want truth, evaluate everything, accept what is true.

My motto is not to reject everything "hat-in-hand" because one error is in a statement, but to "eat the hay and spit out the sticks."

 

[Mungo]

Not a Bigot, as gives the truth from Bible!

How about this then?
4 Catholic Beliefs About Mary That Protestants Reject

This is a discussion forum.
If you have some unbigoted points to make, supported by evidence, then do so and we can discuss them.

 

[Mungo]

And necromancy is still a sin.

At last, something we agree on.
And necromancy is condemned by the Catholic Church.

 

[YeshuaFan1]

CARM is run by anti-Catholic Calvinist Matt Slick. I've been on that forum years ago. If you refute an error, your post gets deleted. It's the most dishonest LYING forum on the internet.

He does not hate Catholics, but does hate their false teachings and doctrines that lead many away from true Christ and true Gospel!

 

[YeshuaFan1]

He is a Calvinist that becomes unhinged if you challenge his side enough or you will be deleted and banned. (I have been banned for repeating a claim by a Calvinist that the Sovereign God must be the Author of sin, (which was applauded on the Forum) and responding with the obvious... that he is saying that God and the Devil are the same person.)

Yet, the issue is not the Forum, but whether what he says has any merit. An ad hominem does not make everything he writes to be untrue. If I used your logic, I would not believe in the Trinity, since Roman Catholicism believes it.

If you want truth, evaluate everything, accept what is true.

My motto is not to reject everything "hat-in-hand" because one error is in a statement, but to "eat the hay and spit out the sticks."

Regardless on him being a Calvinist, s I also am, the truth is that catholic theology is built upon manmade doctrines, errors, and heresy!

 

[YeshuaFan1]

This is a discussion forum.
If you have some unbigoted points to make, supported by evidence, then do so and we can discuss them.

Why is making valid claims against the false teachings and doctrine of Rome make one a bigot, when true?

 

[Mungo]

Regardless on him being a Calvinist, s I also am, the truth is that catholic theology is built upon manmade doctrines, errors, and heresy!

That's not truth at all.
That just an opinion based on ignorance.

 

[Mungo]

Why is making valid claims against the false teachings and doctrine of Rome make one a bigot, when true?

You aren't making valid claims.

You are just giving your opinions based on ignorance.

As I said before, if you have some unbigoted points to make, supported by evidence, then do so and we can discuss them. But it appears you don't have any - just opinions based on ignorance.

 

[YeshuaFan1]

You aren't making valid claims.

You are just giving your opinions based on ignorance.

As I said before, if you have some unbigoted points to make, supported by evidence, then do so and we can discuss them. But it appears you don't have any - just opinions based on ignorance.

Did Rome change any theology from Trent? When it denied the Pauline Justification and stayed teaching false Gospel?

 

[YeshuaFan1]

That's not truth at all.
That just an opinion based on ignorance.

Most of Roman theology comes from man-made tradition, not from inspired scripture!