MattMooradian
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Freedom comes with responsibility. Let's not eliminate the good for the sins of the bad. I hope you are not espousing the banning of free speech?
The goddess liberty!
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Freedom comes with responsibility. Let's not eliminate the good for the sins of the bad. I hope you are not espousing the banning of free speech?
no I said freedom of the press
But yes freedom requires responsibility but rebellion and license don’t
Your only free to choose what you should choose, that which is good, true, and beauty
The Bible is not a catechism it does not have a list of doctrines
it’s not a creed with articles of faith and no where does it say the Bible alone
it’s not a creed with articles of faith and no where does it say the Bible alone
Kings are often tyrants. The question is whether we are obligated to obey tyrants? I never said Protestants were perfect, BTW, so I don't know what that has to do with the discussion.
How did you determine the Statue of Liberty was modeled after a mythological goddess?
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Correct.
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The Bible contains of Jesus' Doctrine.
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Catechism contains Catholic Prepared questions and answers according to Catholics.
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The Bible contains many formal written statements of Belief.
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Catechism- Never read a Catholic churches formal written statements of belief.
It? Bible
The Scripture itself "Limits" Inspiration OF God only and;
For doctrine,
For reproof,
For correction,
For instruction,
IN Righteousness...TO Scripture.
2 Tim 3:
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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Catechism was inspired and written by men.
• Two Different Sources of Inspiration.
• Two Different Sources of Written Books.
• Two Different Conclusions for Doctrine.
• Two Different Conclusions for Reproof.
• Two Different Conclusions for Correction.
• Two Different Conclusions of Profitability.
• Two Different Conclusions in Righteousness.
Oh come on! Jesus taught more about the afterlife than just about anyone in the Bible...he explained hell and paradise.
MattMooradian
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No. People are free to choose evil. That's what the Tree of Knowledge was all about. God could stop all evil any time He chooses; God allows evil. So, we, too, should take our understanding from God - we should allow evil to exist. Sorry, being a Christian is difficult. Jesus said, "Resist not evil."
We must be taught by Peter, the apostles, and their successors! Matt 28:19 Jn 21:17
Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
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The obedience of faith!
Rom 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name.
Taught the one true faith revealed by Christ to His apostles! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
Not the Bible alone
Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
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The obedience of faith!
Rom 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name.
Taught the one true faith revealed by Christ to His apostles! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
Not the Bible alone
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please, now try it by reading the Bible alone, without any wolf-guides, for three years, like Paul taught, then
"buried with Him in death, raised to new life in Him"
ha well we say that, yes, but that is the diff between reading literally and spiritually, i guess? When did a place on earth, Gehenna, turn into a place in the "afterlife," iyo? You can only fool yourself in the end i guess; you can either follow the Roman cult of Sol, or learn the awful truth, wadr;
"buried with Him in death, raised to new life in Him"
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It always was, the garbage dump was just a symbol of hell. Jesus did not invent the place of torment just to tell a good yarn.
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yes, "it's like this, it's like that," i get you ok
No, Gehenna is not any "symbol of hell," that is patently ridiculous, sorry; the disconnect is obvious, Gehenna is referenced bc it is right here on earth, not in any imaginary "afterlife," as is made obvious when no one actually literally "goes to Gehenna"
but you might contemplate Jesus going along with your overwhelming desire to accept some "eternal" place of torment in order to send you a strong delusion, too, eh? Now you get to "go to heaven" after you have died, right? Even though you cant Quote that anywhere, and i can Quote the exact opposite,
No one has ever gone up to heaven
but we are encouraged to associate that with Cult of Sol beliefs, see, rather than life, more abundantly and the kingdom of heaven is within you. So bam believe in an "afterlife" if you like, and i wish you the best if luck in your quest for immortality, ok? Keep speaking as if you know!
No, Gehenna is not any "symbol of hell," that is patently ridiculous, sorry; the disconnect is obvious, Gehenna is referenced bc it is right here on earth, not in any imaginary "afterlife," as is made obvious when no one actually literally "goes to Gehenna"
but you might contemplate Jesus going along with your overwhelming desire to accept some "eternal" place of torment in order to send you a strong delusion, too, eh? Now you get to "go to heaven" after you have died, right? Even though you cant Quote that anywhere, and i can Quote the exact opposite,
No one has ever gone up to heaven
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so iow no matter how many times 1 Sam 8 is invoked, you just aren't interested
right
you cant even see it huh
if you dont like a v or a chapter, meh, just ignore it
You do seem stuck on one or two verses.. I believe you might be a cult all by yourself.
