Why is this forum full of so many hateful "Christians"?

[Prayer Warrior]

Yes I agree, we need to be represented. It's not for me. But I'm not everyone, I'm just someone. And I welcome real Christians occupying office.

You've probably heard the saying, "All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing."

Sometimes, God uses His people to stem the tide of evil by placing them in public office.

 

[bbyrd009]

so you say, with complete confidence no less, but cannot prove, any kind of way, sorry

I've known Christians who have served in public office.

They can make the difference in whether our laws are completely ungodly. I've personally witnessed this.

see, you say this as though it were fact or truth, when the argument could easily be made that nothing could be further from the truth, at least broadly and generally speaking. Sure, every now and then a Carter will get elected and serve one term maybe, but anyone truly interested in serving will be assassinated, just like the last two potuses who attempted to abolish the federal reserve.

i might ask how you know they were Christians anyway?

Yes I agree, we need to be represented. It's not for me. But I'm not everyone, I'm just someone. And I welcome real Christians occupying office.

ok, then keep trying, and best of luck to you ok
i absolutely do not need to be represented by anyone else

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Yes that comes across immature and childish, which is typical for Trump. LOL, he is that way. And I've known other super successful people that haven't had time to take a real hard inner look and mature, they're too busy taking care of their families and serving God. So they stay immature their whole lives.

LOL! Call me immature.

I guess I come from a generation that took things like this in stride. Political cartoons aren't nice.

 

[bbyrd009]

Sometimes, God uses His people to stem the tide of evil by placing them in public office.

then comes the end, when He hands the kingdom to the Father, after He has destroyed all rulers, powers, and authority

oops

you might review 1Sam8 again, which you are directly contradicting with your knowledge

and i also agree with your statement, as far as it goes, but Yah might also use satan's ppl (king saul comes to mind) to forward the tide of "evil," huh?

 

[Prayer Warrior]

see, you say this as though it were fact or truth, when the argument could easily be made that nothing could be further from the truth, at least broadly and generally speaking. Sure, every now and then a Carter will get elected and serve one term maybe, but anyone truly interested in serving will be assassinated, just like the last two potuses who attempted to abolish the federal reserve.

i might ask how you know they were Christians anyway?

I don't know why you're having such a problem with this. Do you think that only evil people can run for office? Is there some sort of secret questionnaire that people seeking office have answer and prove that they are evil, lol???

These were people I personally knew--in person, up close and personal.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

then comes the end, when He hands the kingdom to the Father, after He has destroyed all rulers, powers, and authority

oops

you might review 1Sam8 again, which you are directly contradicting with your knowledge

You're quoting scripture, but do you even believe in the Bible--that it's God's written Word?

 

[Raccoon1010]

I've posted several of the news articles and the commentary I was referring to in my other post. You can view these articles by clicking here.

Thanks for referencing that. I followed the other party in the debate, the conservative Baptist made sense to me, and couldn't take Juan Williams seriously.

 

[Seven of Nine]

Yes I agree, we need to be represented. It's not for me. But I'm not everyone, I'm just someone. And I welcome real Christians occupying office.

I won't vote for a politician or a presidential candidate because the person claims to be a Christian. It isn't a deciding factor for me. Personally, I don't believe Christians or any other religious group should be given preferential treatment or be given political influence in the government. I also don't believe that the federal government should endorse, promote or politically pander to Christians or to any other religious people. I think the federal government of the United States should be neutral and allow each religion to be represented equally within the laws of our nation. I believe every American, regardless of age, gender, race, religion or sexual orientation, should be represented equally in the federal government.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I won't vote for a politician or a presidential candidate because the person claims to be a Christian.

Ah, something you and I agree on! Cool!

 

[Raccoon1010]

ok, then keep trying, and best of luck to you ok
i absolutely do not need to be represented by anyone else

yes you could live in an encampment, hunt and live off the land, but then you still need medical care and bullets for your hunting rifle. Then you could represent yourself. Or you could run for office.

 

[Seven of Nine]

Thanks for referencing that. I followed the other party in the debate, the conservative Baptist made sense to me, and couldn't take Juan Williams seriously.

I don't disregard Juan Williams' personal commentary on Trump supporters because his sentiment is widely shared among many non-Christians. It's a terrible indictment upon the Evangelical Christian Church to be publicly accused of selling their soul to gain political favor with Trump.

 

[bbyrd009]

I don't know why you're having such a problem with this. Do you think that only evil people can run for office? Is there some sort of secret questionnaire that people seeking office have answer and prove that they are evil, lol???

im not having a prob with that at all, im just speaking with someone who is convinced i guess :)
yes, there is a secret questionnaire that ppl seeking higher offices have to answer and prove that they are evil, surely.

These were people I personally knew--in person, up close and personal.

your point being?
you cant be fooled by a little convo, you dont think?
i submit that anyone even seeking office has lost their way, and is ego-bound, regardless of their declarations or stated "intentions"

You're quoting scripture, but do you even believe in the Bible--that it's God's written Word?

have a nice day ok

 

[Grailhunter]

I won't vote for a politician or a presidential candidate because the person claims to be a Christian.

You are right about that! We have all heard the guy that says, "I am the kind of man that....." You are not what you say you are, you are what you do and what you support. And what the Democrats do and what they support are commands from hell.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

i submit that anyone even seeking office has lost their way, and is ego-bound

Okay, that's your judgment (and I think it's not a fair one). I disagree. Nuff said.

 

[Raccoon1010]

I won't vote for a politician or a presidential candidate because the person claims to be a Christian. It isn't a deciding factor for me. Personally, I don't believe Christians or any other religious group should be given preferential treatment or be given political influence in the government. I also don't believe that the federal government should endorse, promote or politically pander to Christians or to any other religious people. I think the federal government of the United States should be neutral and allow each religion to be represented equally within the laws of our nation. I believe every American citizen, regardless of age, gender, race or sexual orientation, should be represented equally within the laws of our nation.

Then I can see why you might get into heated debates on a Christian forum. Hope this helps :)

 

[bbyrd009]

yes, there is a secret questionnaire that ppl seeking higher offices have to answer and prove that they are evil, surely.

 

[Seven of Nine]

Then I can see why you might get into heated debates on a Christian forum. Hope this helps :)

I believe in this... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." I believe in freedom, liberty, and justice for all.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I think the federal government of the United States should be neutral and allow each religion to be represented equally within the laws of our nation. I believe every American, regardless of age, gender, race, religion or sexual orientation, should be represented equally in the federal government.

This is the problem. Neutrality is a myth!

Are you saying that Islam Sharia Law "should be represented equally in the federal government"???

 

[Raccoon1010]

I don't disregard Juan Williams' personal commentary on Trump supporters because his sentiment is widely shared among many non-Christians. It's a terrible indictment upon the Evangelical Christian Church to be publicly accused of selling their soul to gain political favor with Trump.

I don't see it as an indictment so much as an opinion, one could claim either side has sold their soul. Again I sided with the Baptist here as the lesser of two evils appears to be Trump. But yeah that language could cause debates.

 

[bbyrd009]

Okay, that's your judgment (and I think it's not a fair one). I disagree. Nuff said.

youre sure skipping a lot of reply, wadr
do you have any Scripture to reinforce your belief? ty

sharia law is Scriptural btw; it is voluntary, etc, ive lived under it for years at a time, works great. Dont buy the horror stories