If Baptism could save then there is no need for the shed Blood of Jesus.
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Addressing the OP, good topic, Don't get water baptize, and bon't believe that God sheded his blood, and see what happend? two scriptures,
Mark 16:15 & 16, these are our two witness that confirm our salvation.........
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If Baptism could save then there is no need for the shed Blood of Jesus.
one word, obedienceThink!! If Baptism could save people then there is no need for the shed Blood of Jesus.
I answered this in the other thread:
You seem to be ascribing magical properties to water. It is not the water itself that saves us. We are saved in baptism because it is then that God acts - regenerates us, forgives our sins, brings us into the New Covenant. All that was won for us by Jesus shedding his blood. It is applied to us in baptism. That is why baptism saves us.
Why no answer to this little question???
Think!! It won't hurt very much!!! Tweak!! Do you say that if an unbeliever gets baptized to please his wife or mother that that baptism saves him==Think some more and face the truth!
Jesus shed his blood not by his own will, but the Evil One who captive mankind did it
Their demon Ifrit (gods of Eupherates river worshiped by Terah - Joshua 24:1-28) always seek innocent people to burnt offerings (1 Peter 5:6-10). That's why Jesus used Beelzebub to cast out evil spirits from men (Matthew 12:22-30), because Beelzebub is Ifrit's master and the ruler of Friday, this Eupherates gods was worshiped by Philistine people of Ekron (2 Kings 1:1-18). Friday was the day which Adam & Eve eat from the forbidden tree (The book of Adam & Eve in the Lost books of bible apocrypha was wrote about this).It was the will of the Father
The actual application of water has salvational value.Think!! It won't hurt very much!!! Tweak!! Do you say that if an unbeliever gets baptized to please his wife or mother that that baptism saves him==Think some more and face the truth!
Baptism is to be done by believers whom have faith in Christ.Think!! It won't hurt very much!!! Tweak!! Do you say that if an unbeliever gets baptized to please his wife or mother that that baptism saves him==Think some more and face the truth!
As if to directly contradict what I said previously.Baptism is to be done by believers whom have faith in Christ.
A non believer getting baptized doesn’t do much.
Actually my comment was in response to another poster, whom I quoted.As if to directly contradict what I said previously.
We will not accept the words of a mormon.
If Jesus was God, so he was God who also put Cherubim at garden of Eden (Genesis 3:20-24). Cherubim was represent Babylonian gods, whereas cherubim was also feared by Ezekiel (Ezekiel 1:1-28) and all prophets was believed God's throne is above Cherubim (2 Samuel 6:2; 2 Samuel 22:10-12; 2 Kings 19:15; 1 Chronicles 13:6; Isaiah 37:16), no wonder Holy Spirit always came with Flames because Holy Spirit itself was the spring water of life. And that will convincing us why did the Moses ark of covenant built with Cherub symbol, Cherubim mentioned on Ezekiel was represent those seven angels who ruled our world as seven spirit of God (Revelation 4:1-11), so if you have 7 gifts of Holy Spirit then you have fulfilled with God's protection in daily basis in a week. That's why Jesus as God himself has a power and authority to command Beelzebub as a punisher to mankind and evil doers as a warning to make them repent.@Yan,
Jesus did not use Beelzebub to cast out demons; He was accused of doing that by the Pharisees as a disparagement on His ministry. And Jesus responded by saying that they were in danger of committing the unpardonable sin.
He actually cast out demons by the Spirit of God.