You've been disrespectful and lazy, and I can easily put you on ignore, and not see anything you post.
Does ALL sins include "Past, Present and Future" sins?
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You've been disrespectful and lazy, and I can easily put you on ignore, and not see anything you post.
1 John 1:8 is someone BEFORE Christ, "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. All you would have had to do to not fall into ignorance, is to read the next verse. The Word of God has to be read in context, and NOT contradict other scripture, especially by the same author such as 1 John chapter 3!
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and there is no truth in us. 9 But if we confess our sins to God, he will keep his promise and do what is right: he will forgive us our sins and purify us from all our wrongdoing.
Who is truth? The Holy Spirit! And if you do not have the Holy Spirit that stops you from sinning, you do not belong to Christ. Romans 8:9; 1 John 3:5
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And where did I say that I am not "hid with Christ in God." I abide in Him, and He abide in me. 1 John 3:24
You have to take the verse out of context to try to make it fit what you are saying it says clearly "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us"., The Lords prayer Has forgive us our Debts and Sins, And starts with our Father in Heaven so it's to Christians, Actually, Jesus is Truth The Holy Spirit Testafies Of Jesus who Was the only One who had no sin, Look at it this way Could the greatest Sin Be breaking the Greatest Comandment, Do you think you can love God With all your heart with all your mind with all your strength at all times as he is worthy of?
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Here's how.
Given the fact - fact - that we are not yet perfected, and are still in corruptible flesh, well, we know we're not perfect. And depending on what your perceptions of yourself are, and what you excuse and don't excuse, well, let's just say we can become conflicted in our relationship with God, if we are holding things against ourself. And we project that on God.
And you know from our many discussions that there are a number of ways we perceive our sins. The issue of sin in any believer's life is a unique and personal matter between them in God.
We know that it is by faith we have access into the grace in which we stand.
Our perceptions of our sins work directly against our faith - unless - we understand that even what we hold against ourselves, God does not hold against us. All is forgiven. All, for all time. There is nothing that God holds against me, therefore I always - always - have a completely open door to my unseen Father. My Faithful Creator. My Loving Savior.
It is God Who sanctifies us. It is by faith we receive from God. It is in our reconciliation to God that we are freely in His presence. And as we become aware we are in His presence, with no hindrance, we do not sin. We keep our eyes on Jesus, and not on the waves, although there ARE waves, but keeping our eyes on Him, we walk on water.
Much love!
So true!!
I mean, is there any of us who merely want God to tell us not to bother whether we sin or not, It's OK, you can sin, no biggie? No one I know, not who is born again!
Much love!
Earburner
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Yes, you are "hid with Christ in God", and so as He said: "...for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:34.
Now, if God the Father through Jesus, does not remember our sin anymore, because of us having faith in Jesus, WHY ARE YOU still holding back in your flesh, remembering yours??
Don't you trust Him, to believe that His shed Blood is powerful enough to REMOVE ALL of your sin?
Again: when were you made to be sin-less, through faith in the blood of Christ,
do you not believe that for your whole life, past, present and future, that you are STILL sin-less in Him?
If not, then by what *work of God shall you do, in order to keep yourself sin-free in and through YOUR flesh?
Ans. Apart from the blood of Christ, there are NONE!!
*John 6:29
When a person is born again they receive a heart to want to please and serve God, that comes naturally from that perspective
Then start trying to figure out why there is a contradiction.
1. How can Jesus cleanse us from all unrighteousness, and we still have sin?
2. Whey does 1 John 3 say that if you sin you are of the devil? Yet you believe 1 John 1:8 is a Christian?
I've explained this so many times, and have come to the conclusion you people are going to have to start thinking for yourselves. I did, so can you.
Are you talking about feeling guilty about something that you did in the past that has been forgiven, or sins you continually commit. If you go out on your wife tomorrow, can you still come before God with a clear conscience, knowing you are already forgiven?
Romans 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
You can't through your old flesh/carnal nature. That is why we MUST be born again. Otherwise we don't belong to Christ.
I'm not talking about emotions we label "feeling guilty". Guilt for sin is judicial from God in the form of condemnation, that is, destruction away from the presence of the Lord.
I'm talking about ANY sins. We know what we do, those who are in the Lord, and if we don't, God will be in the process of revealing these to us, I think.
Do you know that I can come to God with a clear conscience in the midst of committing sin? The scandal of grace! But it's the best and quickest way away from sin. Any sin. To realize that no matter what I do, God is favoring me with His love, and nothing will ever change that. He has made me His son out of His love for me, and nothing will ever change that.
To have this truth in mind is to have intimacy with our Maker, because that's what the new creation spirit does. Perception of guilt is the impediment to intimacy, and forgiveness is the cure. In forgiveness is the liberty to serve unfettered.
Much love!
That's what these guys thought:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
This is the way I live my Christianity, and I hope someday you come out from under that cloud of false understanding:
21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. 24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
Earburner
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Of course I do agree with all of what you said, but evidently YOU don't believe it!
If you sin, and forget to confess it, will you STILL remain sin-less by the blood of Christ, even though you shall consider yourself not to be sin-free?
To be sin-less means that even though you and others SEE your sin, God the Father does not, because you are hid WITH Christ IN God.
Does ALL sins include "Past, Present and Future" sins?
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The Lord Christ Jesus' forgiveness includes all Past Sins...
Thereafter...the man is Freed from committing Sin, thus there are no present or future Sins committed To Forgive.
Glory to God,
Taken
OP^
The Lord Christ Jesus' forgiveness includes all Past Sins...
Thereafter...the man is Freed from committing Sin, thus there are no present or future Sins committed To Forgive.
Glory to God,
Taken
Grace has not been extended to you.....that is why you don’t understand it.....
Some things must be “Spiritually Revealed”......if you lack that “ Spirit” , you also Lack “ ears to hear”, and I have been advised to not “ cast my pearls before swine”......
Earburner
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Still you haven't figured it out yet.
God the Father required the Blood of Jesus, just as much as we do! Without the sacrificial shedding of His Son's blood, the Father would NEVER be able to live within us forever. Thats all He wants to do!!
Jesus is the Lamb OF God! He was God's sacrifice for us, as well as for Himself!!
God's deepest desire is to save each of us from eternal death, which is upon every person! Unfortunately, many do not come to Him through faith in His Son's Finished work, but rather toss His Son aside, by throwing in the Father's face, their own form of sacrifice of attempting in their flesh to be sin-free (self righteous).
It's the same routine as the parable of the "Pharisee and the Publican". They may have started out with faith in Jesus, but now they love the Law more, making themselves to be their own savior, "having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof..." 2 Timothy 3:5
Martin Luther proclaimed , “ though I rape and kill a thousand times a day— God's Grace still covers my sins”. ( paraphrased)
Ofcourse , this is hyperbole on Luther’s part.....and it takes somebody whose intelligence is not limited to actually “ get it”.......,
If I am a Believer in Jesus Christ, I am “ already Forgiven” and can “ NEVER Come under Condemnation .” I can commit Adultery and Murder my wife anytime I “WANT” to and here is the Clincher—— I don’t “ WANT” to! All Believers are in- dwelt with God’s Holy Spirit .The total amount of Born Again , Holy Spirit Indwelt , Believers that murder their wives is probably equal to the amount of unregenerate , Serial Killers out there that sell everything they own and give it to the poor....it ain’t likely to happen.....
With the hopes of making you happy.....here is what will happen .....
David committed Adultery and Murder, yet he is a Saved man ....
Because of his terrible sins, God Chastised Him here on Earth—- MOST SEVERELY ! A Child Of God can Sin up a Storm if he wants to be a Fool, but REST ASSURED—— that “ Child Of God” GETS AWAY WITH NOTHING! ( feel better now?).....After David’s Sin was called out, His life was a total wreck...his baby died, all of his sons turned against him, one of his sons raped one of David daughters, he+spent most of his time on the run, fearing for his life and one of his sons was forever trying to take over David’s Throne.
David was STILL “ a man after God’s Own Heart” and was still counted as a “ Hero Of Faith”. His life was meant to serve as an example to all.It ain’t complicated....sin terribly if you are stupid enough to think that you can “ sin and get away with it”. David didn’t and you Won’t either. If you are a man of Faith , your Faith will save you —- you will probably be one of those that Paul described as “ making it to Heaven “, But getting there like a man who had just barely escaped a house fire .
Getting that “ clear conscience” is a matter of the Holy Spirit convicting you Heart that you have indeed sinned against God and HIM ONLY! You need to “ confess your sin “ before Him which entails you agreeing with Him that it WAS Sin , and you Committed The Sin —— and in most cases , if not all, it was completely “ WILLFULL”......David knew exactly what he was doing, while he was doing it , and did it ANYWAY! Just like the rest of us.....
In the New Covenant Of Grace, when we sin, we need to do the same thing with our Sins that God does with them—— Put them on the Cross ! .....Then, LEAVE THEM THERE! God has “ Forgotten” our sins ....why do you want to drag them down back off of that Cross , or dive to the “ deepest depths of the Sea” to retrieves what God has Banished from His Sight? Thank God for His Amazing Grace and the fact that these Sins have no bearing on your Salvation ( That was an irrevocable GIFT , remember?) Yes , you are still Saved, like ALL that Rest and put their TOTAL FAITH in the Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing Found In 1Cor15:1-4.....Don’t start whining when God metes out your Chastisement —- If David received it —- you are going to receive it too.....That is the lesson to be taken from David’s life—— Act like a Fool...give into your sinful lusts ...
Disobey God....Do evil....never forget that “ your sin will find you out”.....pay a terrible price for what you have done to keep yourself and others from doing it again , but realize that God still Loves you and because of what Jesus did FOR you on the Cross ...we STILL have our Advocate in Heaven and can come with CONFIDENCE to the “Throne Of Grace” where the Blood, ( if you have Faith in that Blood) as always, WASHES AWAY your sins...
If you are a Believer in Jesus , it has been God’s Responsibility all along to get you to your Destination, ( I will Complete the Work That I started) , it is up to Jesus to “ Present us before His Father as “ Blameless” .....
Yep.....Two Things Save us—- #1 Christ’s Blood...... #2 Our Faith in #1........ God’s Amazing Grace will get us to Heaven. How many welts are on your Rear-End when you arrive there is entirely up to you.... God Bless
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Unbiblical Hog-Wash.....I will ask you again—- why does Paul talk so much about God’s Chastisement for “ HIS CHILDREN” if those “ Children” never sin? God sure would be Unkind if he went about Punishing His Children for no good reason, wouldn't you agree?
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