Job

[Heart2Soul]

Perhaps, it was that Job was a faultfinder and yet there is no fault to be found in The Lord. Job 40.2

Or maybe Job had never experienced trials and tribulations until now....and when your wife and friends are suggesting you have sinned and caused these things to come on you it becomes too much to bear.
But eventually Job did the right thing by refusing to let those people speak to him and instead went before God and complained. He also admitted his own weakness was his fear.

 

[Ziggy]

Good post and *hugs back* but I was just wondering were you ever a part of CF.com?

I don't know. I can't find the one I used to visit a long time ago.
I still remember names like Nobby and Mojo. They were the Moderators. There were 2 or 3 that were kind of interconnectd.
I was Lone, or lonetraveller.. And I have a habit of dropping hugs everywhere.
But now I can't find them
Does any of this sound familiar??
HUGS

 

[GTW27]

Or maybe Job had never experienced trials and tribulations until now....and when your wife and friends are suggesting you have sinned and caused these things to come on you it becomes too much to bear.
But eventually Job did the right thing by refusing to let those people speak to him and instead went before God and complained. He also admitted his own weakness was his fear.

The fear Of The Lord is not a weakness, it is a strength.

 

[April_Rose]

I don't know. I can't find the one I used to visit a long time ago.
I still remember names like Nobby and Mojo. They were the Moderators. There were 2 or 3 that were kind of interconnectd.
I was Lone, or lonetraveller.. And I have a habit of dropping hugs everywhere.
But now I can't find them
Does any of this sound familiar??
HUGS

No,.. sorry. *Hugs back*

The fear Of The Lord is not a weakness, it is a strength.

What do you mean by that?

 

[Waiting on him]

What are you talking about? Jesus (in the flesh) was long after his time and he definitely loved God.

My greatest hope for you would be that some day you’ll read Job and hear the eternal Son speak to and through His servant Job.

 

[Ziggy]

So then you're telling me that Job was equal to Jesus?

No, Job wasn't perfect. He still had an ego.
I did this I did that... Jesus never put himself first it was always the Father.
Job would be more like Enoch or Noah. He walked with God.
But I think there may be some lip service as well.
Job is a hard one. He is going through a struggle.. (there's that word again.. oh oh)
And there is a war raging inside him.
His friends aren't helping.
They're good at pointing out his faults and showing him where he falls short.
But they don't have the answers. Because they haven't even begun the good fight.
Only when the last and youngest speaks does he open Job's mind to understand he isn't perfect.
And it all comes back to the law.
Job kept the law every day, he gave sacrifices, he prayed for his family, he did what the good book said.
However it was things he did as an outward obedience rather than a heartfelt desire.

You shouldn't help someone because the Bible tells you so. You should do it because it's the right thing to do.
And I think that's where Job fell short. Maybe he was a hypocrite.. no, I think he did what he was told,
by works and not by faith.

Now Jesus, he didn't just walk with God. God was using his heart and mind and body to do and show what we all should be doing.
I asked you, please take care of my garden and look what you did..
there's all these weeds and thistles and thorns.. What happened!!??

Well Lord, a couple things. First the enemy came in and planted stuff where I was planting and he messed up my crops.
My fruit went sour, He even spiked the water with some bitter wormwood... kinda like Flint MI water? yeah like that.
And he got stronger and I got weaker and finally I gave up

God says, here, let's take out that garden (your heart) and start over. We'll plant some new seeds that grow good crops and good fruit.
We'll clean the water (mind) and make it freah and clean and you won't ever be thirsty again.

And I'll take your garden and put it my Garden and we'll watch it grow together

And so Job ended up with so much more and better than when he first began.

Job... he's a tough one.

HUGS

 

[Waiting on him]

Job kept the law every day, he gave sacrifices, he prayed for his family, he did what the good book said.
However it was things he did as an outward obedience rather than a heartfelt desire.

Precisely he was trying to argue his righteousness through the observance of a law that was in place to bring knowledge to sin. He needed to see the Son, and he did.

 

[Ziggy]

Job is Israel in the flesh.
When Job opens his heart and mind to the the Lord, he is converted and becomes Israel in the Spirit.

For we walk by faith, not by sight.

What do you think a Christian is?
What do you think a Christian really is?
Where did Christianity come from?
What is the Root and the Branches?
What is the Tree of Life?

I noticed when God was talking to Adam and Eve, he mentions first the tree of Life.
And then he says the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Man was always meant to be in God's heart and God in man's heart eternally.
But they chose to have their independence and seperated / the divorce .. from God.

Job is like a woman who has been divorced from her husband, but the husband calls her back.

And they live happily ever after?

That's the Kingdom of God.

Macaroni and cheese for supper yum
Gotta feed the noodle with noodles LOL
HUGS

 

[GTW27]

No,.. sorry. *Hugs back*







What do you mean by that?

Job thought that what was happening to him was The Lord doing it, that is why he said, The Lord giveth and The Lord taketh away. It was The Lord allowing the enemy to do these things. Job feared The Lord, and sinned not against Him. The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

 

[April_Rose]

Job thought that what was happening to him was The Lord doing it, that is why he said, The Lord giveth and The Lord taketh away. It was The Lord allowing the enemy to do these things. Job feared The Lord, and sinned not against Him. The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Oh okay, I guess it's just how the fear of God is used in context because I don't believe that people should be afraid of Him afraid of Him.

 

[Ziggy]

Job thought that what was happening to him was The Lord doing it, that is why he said, The Lord giveth and The Lord taketh away. It was The Lord allowing the enemy to do these things. Job feared The Lord, and sinned not against Him. The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Maybe Job Loved the Lord and couldn't understand why he would let this happen.
But he wasn't going to question him.
My mother in law says to me all the time: You never question God.

I got so many questions and he seems fine talking about them..

I think she means you don't judge him. You don't.. yeah... you don't judge God.

wow..
HUGS

 

[Waiting on him]

What is the Root and the Branches?
What is the Tree of Life?

Isaiah 11:10 KJV
[10] And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

 

[GTW27]

Maybe Job Loved the Lord and couldn't understand why he would let this happen.
But he wasn't going to question him.
My mother in law says to me all the time: You never question God.

I got so many questions and he seems fine talking about them..

I think she means you don't judge him. You don't.. yeah... you don't judge God.

wow..
HUGS

Yes He does love it when we ask Him questions.

 

[Waiting on him]

Maybe Job Loved the Lord and couldn't understand why he would let this happen.
But he wasn't going to question him.
My mother in law says to me all the time: You never question God.

I got so many questions and he seems fine talking about them..

I think she means you don't judge him. You don't.. yeah... you don't judge God.

wow..
HUGS

I personally believe Job was so caught up in his self appointed righteousness he couldn’t see the Lord, could only hear of Him. The thing about God is He abases the proud heart then he has a heart that’s open for truth to shine in.

 

[Ziggy]

Lessons of life.
And God created examples for us to learn by.
I am learning to take every story, every book, and turn it so it is about my walk with God.
How do I measure up?
If I find fault in a character, does that same fault lie in me?
If I find a good one, do I strive to be like that, are any of those fruits growing in me?
I take the bible very personal now. It wasn't always this way.
I just read it and say, yup this ones good and that ones bad,
but I never considered those stories are about me and my walk with God.

So I'm just beginning this new journey.
I may fall down a lot or walk into a ditch or fall off a cliff.
I may get it all wrong, or I may get it right.
And you guys are awesome classmates.
And I am so glad I took the class.

HUGS

 

[Heart2Soul]

The fear Of The Lord is not a weakness, it is a strength.

So you didn't read it right....I said he wasn't experiencing Fear of The Lord......
His fear was of the world.
I appreciate your input but please quote me correctly. ❤

 

[Heart2Soul]

Job thought that what was happening to him was The Lord doing it, that is why he said, The Lord giveth and The Lord taketh away. It was The Lord allowing the enemy to do these things. Job feared The Lord, and sinned not against Him. The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Job acknowledges Him as a Sovereign God who is justified in what He allows.
IMHO, I believe Job knew who the enemy was. He knew God had given him a hedge of protection....he also knew that God had removed it.

 

[farouk]

"For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me." (Job 19.25-27)

Amazing words!

 

[farouk]

Job acknowledges Him as a Sovereign God who is justified in what He allows.

@Heart2Soul Job was indeed a Godly saint from the Old Testament.

 

[farouk]

Or maybe Job had never experienced trials and tribulations until now....and when your wife and friends are suggesting you have sinned and caused these things to come on you it becomes too much to bear.
But eventually Job did the right thing by refusing to let those people speak to him and instead went before God and complained. He also admitted his own weakness was his fear.

@Heart2Soul Philippians also sheds light on suffering in that Lord strengthens His people through joy in the midst of suffering.