The things I am concerned about as a believer now that Biden/Harris are the presumed elect.

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Ronald Nolette

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Don't be worried. :) A Christian, a brother in Christ, remains as our president. And the countless prayers surrounding President Donald Trump et al, and VP Pence et al, shall continue to make it so. Because when God is for President Trump no enemy may succeed against him.
Prayer warriors here and all over the world continue to hold President Trump in prayer. As we also continue to pray the enemy of democracy be defeated and the fair tabulated election results pour forth to reconfirm what many of us as voters already know. President Donald Trump will continue to serve America and keep his promises for another four years. :)

I pray also for President Trump's protection from the enemy that will resort to different tactics to unseat him once those facts become apparent and on the record.
In Jesus mighty name, amen.


Unless it is Gods will to place Biden in for His purposes. Remember it is God who raises up and deposes rulers.

I would like to see Pres. Trump remain, but I pray thatprayer with the caveat..."If it be Thy will". If it is not Gods will- then our prayers are answered by the Word NO!
 
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Ronald Nolette

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Degrees aren't a be all cure all. But there are anthropologists and biblical translation scholars that provide good, solid explanations as to why what you have presented is incorrect not just in part but in substance.

Dispensation Theology is a racist Theology...it is Zionism. (Jews are favored over everyone else)

And biblical history scholars know exactly how previous prophecies have been recited and played out. Exactly with a timeline back and forth in time in the future consistently.
Isaiah has many examples, so do other books of prophecy. But that consistency hasn't deterred you in your assumptions.

And finally...aside from the scholarship, pointing to the basic facts of parallel between you and the Pharisees' firmly held beliefs you still persist in thinking along similar ways.


Well I await for you to cite some empirical evidence for these and the other allegations you have to date thrown out on this thread and have yet to substantiate with that pesky little stuff called evidence!

Just saying som eexpert disagrees is not evidence but an unsubstantiated bloviation.
 

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Well I await for you to cite some empirical evidence for these and the other allegations you have to date thrown out on this thread and have yet to substantiate with that pesky little stuff called evidence!

Just saying som eexpert disagrees is not evidence but an unsubstantiated bloviation.

I have provided evidence...
Your being blind to it doesn't negate it's existence.
 

Ronald Nolette

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I have provided evidence...
Your being blind to it doesn't negate it's existence.


then please cite which post you listed all this evidence to support your allegations against me and I shall gladly go look it up. I can't seem to find it on this thread!

YOu don't seem to want to debate with Christian charity.
 

Ronald Nolette

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I have provided evidence...
Your being blind to it doesn't negate it's existence.


Went back and looked at all 90 posts. You posted #'s 68,70,72, 73, 83,86,87,90.

Posts 83 and 86 went way off the track of my OP and seemed to tear into dispensational theology. but of your 8 posts you provided no evidence just statements, pontifications and accusations without substantiation. Are you sure you meant for post 83 and 86 to be on this thread? or were you thinking of another thread you are commenting on?

Cuz you wernt off on a tangent and again- on this thread-- 0 evidence to support your accusations.
 

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There is a reality in holy scripture that believers in Christ are not under the law (Romans 6:14) and that the throne of iniquity frameth mischief by a law (Psalm 94:20). Therefore let the church rise up in civil disobedience as in the days of Ghandi; and let us continue to not forsake the assembly of believers, as the habit of some is; and let us spur one another on to love and good works; and all the more as we see the day approaching. Let us remember that the apostles on two occasions told the scribes and Pharisees who sought to undermine their religious freedom, that "we must obey God rather than men."

Let us not fear this virus, saints. We have promises from the Lord in Psalms 91 that if we are faithful it will not even be able to touch us. We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Let us rise up as saints and be the church to this lost and dying world around us. Will they hate us more? It is very likely that they will. But we are not subject to this virus and neither will we be spreaders of it if we are faithful to the Lord. We can continue to wear masks and utilize social distancing for the sake of the unredeemed around us, but we are not to be fearful ourselves. And as concerning the faithful assembly of believers, this is something that is mandated by holy scripture for the faithful...let us not forsake the assembly lest we find that the church was taken up from the many church buildings on a Sunday and we were not there to partake of that glorious escape.

Let us continue on in fellowship. Let us continue to worship the Father in Spirit and in truth. Let us keep Jesus' command to persevere: for if we keep this command, will we not be counted worthy to escape those things that are soon to come upon the earth?

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Well I would think that there's a bunch of errors in your logic on this. So would many people who have a lot more letters behind their names that either of us do and have logical reasoning behind their assertions to back them up. Not saying that they would be 100% correct either.

But when we get so convinced in the definition of future prophecy to say that it can't be anything but our conclusions, we have made the precise same error the Pharisees did over 2000 years ago. This error cost them everything they hoped to gain.

Your timing sequence of prophecy being out of sequence is also troubling. The sequence of near/far/near/mid far/extreme far/near is unaccounted for as well.

There's a lot of other things that you have claimed as well that aren't accounted for as well such as racist views of God's that are a requisite for some of your conclusions.

I understand that it's difficult to give up a set of firmly held beliefs...but I also can say that your admittance to the Family of God was predicated by just that with firm belief.

On top of this...
You are holding on to many baseless accusations of conspiracy theories that are unsubstantiated by anyone other than a few people who love selling their books and websites. They are masters at creating believable stories but with no facts to substantiate their claims.

These are the two posts I said in my previous post. YOu say you provided evidence for these accusations, it is not on this thread- so where is this evidence you say I am blind to that is directed at my comments.

If it is another thread- please tell me which thread! Are we engaging in this debate elsewhere? I am giving you the opportunity to deal with me with honor and integrity here.
 

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Unless it is Gods will to place Biden in for His purposes. Remember it is God who raises up and deposes rulers.

I would like to see Pres. Trump remain, but I pray thatprayer with the caveat..."If it be Thy will". If it is not Gods will- then our prayers are answered by the Word NO!
I think the crooked acts perpetrated against a fair election may be evidence the Dem's seek to impose their will against that of God.
 

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I think the crooked acts perpetrated against a fair election may be evidence the Dem's seek to impose their will against that of God.

I am more convinced now than before that this is a fraudulent election for Biden. I have seen studies about dominion voting software and how vulnerable it is to hacking and has been shown to be hacked or not count ballots. Teh Dems have a long and storied history of voting shenanigans. But that is all from human perspective.

IMNSHO I am convinced that this nation is being prepared for God to ratchet up judgment against it and just may put Biden in for thap purpose no matter how much fraud took place and even if Trump won by several million votes. I hate what happens but am at peace knowing our God is on teh throne of the universe and this is but a puff of dust in the Divine SCheme.
 

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Went back and looked at all 90 posts. You posted #'s 68,70,72, 73, 83,86,87,90.

Posts 83 and 86 went way off the track of my OP and seemed to tear into dispensational theology. but of your 8 posts you provided no evidence just statements, pontifications and accusations without substantiation. Are you sure you meant for post 83 and 86 to be on this thread? or were you thinking of another thread you are commenting on?

Cuz you wernt off on a tangent and again- on this thread-- 0 evidence to support your accusations.
All I said was that your eschatology is probably incorrect and you wanted to get into it all.

I won't make the mistake of replying to you again.

And if you are blind to the things I've stated as being evidence....that in itself should be a huge clue that your hermeneutics are insufficient.
 

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All I said was that your eschatology is probably incorrect and you wanted to get into it all.

I won't make the mistake of replying to you again.

And if you are blind to the things I've stated as being evidence....that in itself should be a huge clue that your hermeneutics are insufficient.


Well I didn't know you voted king of all accurate hermenutics. And you lack the integrity of showing me why you makeyour accusations!

No you said my eschatology was definitely incorrect! Where di dyou learn of my escatology??? I have not presented it here but in a very very very small measure?