Invitation To Eat The Bread Of Life

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God is no more raining down manna from heaven to feed His hungry Children as He did for the Israelites in the days of Moses.

Now we have the bread of life(Jesus Christ) that feeds us every day without running out. His love, care, and compassion are sufficient for everyone.

"For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.” They said therefore to him, “Lord, always give us this bread.” Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will not be hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty." (John 6:33-35).

"I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." (John 6:51).

Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World, the provider of all our needs. Come to him now!.
 

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God is no more raining down manna from heaven to feed His hungry Children as He did for the Israelites in the days of Moses.

Now we have the bread of life(Jesus Christ) that feeds us every day without running out. His love, care, and compassion are sufficient for everyone.

"For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.” They said therefore to him, “Lord, always give us this bread.” Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will not be hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty." (John 6:33-35).

"I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." (John 6:51).

Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World, the provider of all our needs. Come to him now!.
@Lovelytony22 I love John 6! it's such a searching chapter, from various angles.
 
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God is no more raining down manna from heaven to feed His hungry Children as He did for the Israelites in the days of Moses.

Now we have the bread of life(Jesus Christ) that feeds us every day without running out. His love, care, and compassion are sufficient for everyone.

"For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.” They said therefore to him, “Lord, always give us this bread.” Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will not be hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty." (John 6:33-35).

"I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." (John 6:51).

Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World, the provider of all our needs. Come to him now!.

Greetings
Yes, Jesus Christ is the Savior and the provider of all our needs, much more than we think or even imagine.

Revelation 2
verse 17 - He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the
hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a NEW NAME WRITTEN (you see? the NEW NAME is already written - Aleluiaaa!!!), which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

verse 7 - To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Aleluiaaaa!!!


verse 11 - He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

verses 26-29

26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: Aleluiaaaa!!!

27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

28 And I will give him the morning star.

29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3

verse 5 - He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his NAME out of the book of life, but I will confess his NAME before my Father, and before his angels.

verse 12 - Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

verses 21-22

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Amen. Aleluia!

Revelation 11:v.15
The kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
 

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Not just symbolic but partake of His Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist

"For this reason a man shall leave (his) father and (his) mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."

This is a great mystery, but I speak in reference to Christ and the church.


Peace be with you!
 
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Not just symbolic but partake of His Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist

If we analyze more deeply, it is much more symbolic than we think, it because it is a celebration in memory of the LORD Jesus, for the same night in which JESUS was betrayed He took the bread, He did give thanks and brake it, and He said: "Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance - in memory - of me". Also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the New Testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in memory, of me, so as often as you eat this bread, and drink this cup, you do shew the Lord's death till He comes.

In the Old Testament, if perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another Priest should rise? For such an High Priest who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made Higher than the heavens, who needs not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's, for JESUS did once when he offered up Himself, for the word of the oath, which was since the law, makes the Son consecrated for evermore.

But Christ being come an High Priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered in once into the Holy Place, having obtained eternal redemption for us,
for if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge our conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore when He come into the world, He says: Sacrifice and offering thou would not, but a body has thou prepared me (it means: the Word was made flesh): In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou has had no pleasure, then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

In short, this man - JESUS -, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
from henceforth expecting till His enemies be made His footstool-1Corinthians 15:v.24-27.

Severe consequences to whom partakes the celebration of supper unworthyly

Whosoever eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord, for
he that eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks damnation to himself, and for this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep-die in their damnation, because they not discerning the Lord's body.

Take care, and get ready,
this we say unto all by the Word of the Lord - the Word is God - , that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel -Michael, Daniel 12:v.1-3-, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air -third heaven, Luke 20:v.35-36-: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Amen
 
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God is no more raining down manna from heaven to feed His hungry Children as He did for the Israelites in the days of Moses.

Now we have the bread of life(Jesus Christ) that feeds us every day without running out. His love, care, and compassion are sufficient for everyone.

"For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.” They said therefore to him, “Lord, always give us this bread.” Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will not be hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty." (John 6:33-35).

"I am the living bread which came down out of heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Yes, the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." (John 6:51).

Jesus Christ is the Savior of the World, the provider of all our needs. Come to him now!.

this is nice but you do know you are in the Christian section of this site preaching to the choir. hence sites like this are an opportunity to share in the Bread of Life. a tree bares the fruits of the life it lives.
 

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If we analyze more deeply, it is much more symbolic than we think, it because it is a celebration in memory of the LORD Jesus, for the same night in which JESUS was betrayed He took the bread, He did give thanks and brake it, and He said: "Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance - in memory - of me". Also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the New Testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in memory, of me, so as often as you eat this bread, and drink this cup, you do shew the Lord's death till He comes.

In the Old Testament, if perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another Priest should rise? For such an High Priest who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made Higher than the heavens, who needs not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's, for JESUS did once when he offered up Himself, for the word of the oath, which was since the law, makes the Son consecrated for evermore.

But Christ being come an High Priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered in once into the Holy Place, having obtained eternal redemption for us,
for if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge our conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore when He come into the world, He says: Sacrifice and offering thou would not, but a body has thou prepared me (it means: the Word was made flesh): In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou has had no pleasure, then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

In short, this man - JESUS -, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
from henceforth expecting till His enemies be made His footstool-1Corinthians 15:v.24-27.

Severe consequences to whom partakes the celebration of supper unworthyly

Whosoever eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord, for
he that eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks damnation to himself, and for this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep-die in their damnation, because they not discerning the Lord's body.

Take care, and get ready,
this we say unto all by the Word of the Lord - the Word is God - , that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel -Michael, Daniel 12:v.1-3-, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air -third heaven, Luke 20:v.35-36-: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Amen

If the Eucharist was just symbolic no one would ever get sick, if that is what your saying than there is agreement. In the Holy Eucharist is the absolute Real Presence of Christ
 
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If the Eucharist was just symbolic no one would ever get sick, if that is what your saying than there is agreement. In the Holy Eucharist is the absolute Real Presence of Christ

Therefore, severe consequences to whom partakes the celebration of supper unworthyly.

Whosoever eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord, for he that eats and drinks unworthily,
eats and drinks damnation to himself,
and for this cause many are weak and sickly among the people, and many sleep - die in their damnation, because they not discerning the Lord's body. Thus, they come together not for the better, but for the worse, for damnation.
 

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If the Eucharist was just symbolic no one would ever get sick, if that is what your saying than there is agreement. In the Holy Eucharist is the absolute Real Presence of Christ
Precisely.

This is why the Early Church referred to the Holy Eucharist as the "Medicine of immortality" (Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Ephesians, 107 AD).
 
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Precisely.

This is why the Early Church referred to the Holy Eucharist as the "Medicine of immortality" (Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Ephesians, 107 AD).

However, what does the Word of God - the Word is God - say about the early Church? What did JESUS reveal about the early Church around year 95AD, atually His body on earth?

By the way,
JESUS makes no mention of or any reference to the Church of Rome because it was totally in the hands of demons, full of idolatry, and sorcery, and blasphemy, and involved with the fourth kingdom, strong as iron, a satanic kingdom as Daniel prophesied, Dan.2:v.40-43, the Roman empire. The church of Rome was not linked or united to Christ, but to the power of Devil, and guided by demons

Revelation 1:v.1- The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and JESUS sent and signified it by His angel unto His servant John.

List of Churches to which JESUS sent His messages:

Revelation 2

Church of Ephesus

1 - Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; v.20 - The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

5 - Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and
do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

Church of Smyrna -
presence of liars and blasphemers within Church


9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Church of Pergamos
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
(Nicolaitanes - Catechists-Catechism)

16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the Sword of my mouth.

Church of Thyatira

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess,
to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold,
I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and
I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Revelation 3

Church of Sardis

2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain,
that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

Church of Philadelphia

9 Behold,
I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Church of Laodiceans

These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17 Because you say, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knows not that you are wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear;
and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear
 

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By the way, JESUS makes no mention of or any reference to the Church of Rome because it was totally in the hands of demons, full of idolatry, and sorcery, and blasphemy, and involved with the fourth kingdom, strong as iron, a satanic kingdom as Daniel prophesied, Dan.2:v.40-43, the Roman empire. The church of Rome was not linked or united to Christ, but to the power of Devil, and guided by demons

A load of trash
 

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But what was written is true. You can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

Not with your interpretation. You see I hear your crap from others so much it's not funny. You think Christianity is just a bunch of people doing their own thing, looking at the Bible and deciding their own truth while sprinkled with lies here and there to say it really is "truth and you can't deny that". Well bub I can deny what you think and do.

Your problem is your history ignorant and you have no idea about anything about the real Church an what they were like, what they went through, what they teach because you reject truth for your own lie. The early Church even in Scripture was absolutely united and until 1054 the Church was one body. Unfortunately humans being humans the united Church split in two which was the Orthodox and Catholics, the Orthodox have never veered away from the faith once taught from the Apostles unlike evangelicals like you who have no roots and do not keep the faith once handed down from the Apostles. Evangelicals have a shadow of faith, but not the complete one you all miss the forest for the trees.

I am not a Catholic but I can see garbage spewed a mile away. Learn some real Church history, read the Early Church Fathers and get yourself educated
 

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However, what does the Word of God - the Word is God - say about the early Church? What did JESUS reveal about the early Church around year 95AD, atually His body on earth?

By the way,
JESUS makes no mention of or any reference to the Church of Rome because it was totally in the hands of demons, full of idolatry, and sorcery, and blasphemy, and involved with the fourth kingdom, strong as iron, a satanic kingdom as Daniel prophesied, Dan.2:v.40-43, the Roman empire. The church of Rome was not linked or united to Christ, but to the power of Devil, and guided by demons

Revelation 1:v.1- The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and JESUS sent and signified it by His angel unto His servant John.

List of Churches to which JESUS sent His messages:

Revelation 2

Church of Ephesus

1 - Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; v.20 - The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

5 - Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and
do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

Church of Smyrna -
presence of liars and blasphemers within Church


9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Church of Pergamos
14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
(Nicolaitanes - Catechists-Catechism)

16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the Sword of my mouth.

Church of Thyatira

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess,
to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold,
I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and
I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Revelation 3

Church of Sardis

2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain,
that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

Church of Philadelphia

9 Behold,
I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Church of Laodiceans

These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

17 Because you say, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knows not that you are wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear;
and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear
WOW.

The Letters to the 7 churches in Revelation were ALL in Asia Minor (Turkey). Are you REALLY that ignorant to actually think that the Church ONLY existed in Turkey?? What about Corinth, Thessalonica, Pamphylia, Jerusalem, Galatia, Rome, etc.?? The 7 churches of Revelation are simply a microcosm - and NOT the entire Church in the first centry.

Your post shows a a complete lack of understanding of Scripture as well as a woeful-ignorance of Church history.
 
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Not with your interpretation. You see I hear your crap from others so much it's not funny. You think Christianity is just a bunch of people doing their own thing, looking at the Bible and deciding their own truth while sprinkled with lies here and there to say it really is "truth and you can't deny that". Well bub I can deny what you think and do.

Your problem is your history ignorant and you have no idea about anything about the real Church an what they were like, what they went through, what they teach because you reject truth for your own lie. The early Church even in Scripture was absolutely united and until 1054 the Church was one body. Unfortunately humans being humans the united Church split in two which was the Orthodox and Catholics, the Orthodox have never veered away from the faith once taught from the Apostles unlike evangelicals like you who have no roots and do not keep the faith once handed down from the Apostles. Evangelicals have a shadow of faith, but not the complete one you all miss the forest for the trees.

I am not a Catholic but I can see garbage spewed a mile away. Learn some real Church history, read the Early Church Fathers and get yourself educated

What prevails is the Word of God. The Word is God, understand? Yeah, the Word is God, the Word is from everlasting to everlasting. The Word - God - has not beginning, neither ending. JESUS, the Word who was made flesh around 4000 years of God's work, that is, in the fourth Day, who is the Greater Light, He is the beginning and the ending, the Almighty.

What I wrote in my post you ared replying is written in Revelation chapters 2 and 3. And more: What I have written is very very clear about the pure source, that is, even the God Almighty. See the source of my post : Revelation 1:v.1 - "The Revelation of Jesus Christ,
which God gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and JESUS sent and signified it by His angel - in fact an Archangel - unto His servant John". What God revealed to JESUS through the sealed book, book of Apocalypse, and JESUS revealed the content of the sealed book to John through His angel, this event occurred around 65 years after His ascention, so it was in the year 95AD. JESUS revealed the current spiritual conditions of the seven Churches of Asia EXCLUSIVELY, whose churches had been visited by the Apostle Paul constantly times before.

You work with history that was written by men, I work with the Word of God.
Why did JESUS make no mention of or any reference to the Church of Rome? Because it was totally in the hands of demons in the year 95-100AD, full of idolatry, and sorcery, and blasphemy, and involved with the fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire, ruled by demons, strong as iron, a satanic kingdom, as was prophesied by Daniel: Dan.2:v.40-43.

The church of Rome was not linked or united to Christ when the angel of the LORD went to speak with John in Patmos, actually the Church of Rome was ruled by demons, guided by the power of Devil, and men guided by spirit of demons, at the year 95-100AD.

Revelation 18:v.1-5
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying,
Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
 

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The Word is God, understand?

The Word is Christ, not a book. You don't work with God stop lying, you work with the fantasy in your own mind. Come back when you actually know real Church history not your lying heretical nonsense, as it is now all you doing is blabbing incoherently
 
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WOW.

The Letters to the 7 churches in Revelation were ALL in Asia Minor (Turkey). Are you REALLY that ignorant to actually think that the Church ONLY existed in Turkey??
No, I did not think what you, even you, did think that I think. So, who is wrong is you, not me.
I focused in the message of JESUS by which He revealed the spiritual conditions of the seven Churches of Asia exclusively.

What about Corinth, Thessalonica, Pamphylia, Jerusalem, Galatia, Rome, etc.?? The 7 churches of Revelation are simply a microcosm - and NOT the entire Church in the first centry.
What prevails is what JESUS said, not you. JESUS knew the other Churches also, therefore, indirectly you accuse JESUS of being ignorant, the words of your spirit are evil.

our post shows a a complete lack of understanding of Scripture as well as a woeful-ignorance of Church history.
Of course I know so well the origin of your peculiar early Roman Church.
Actually you fell in the trap of the Beast of sea, unfortunately.
Revelation 18:v.4-5 warns not only you, but also all multitude like you, deceived by the guides of the Church of Rome:

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
 

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The Word is Christ, not a book.
JESUS is the Word made flesh, whose celestial event occurred after around 4000 years of God's work.
The Word - God - sent JESUS , the Greater Light , in the fourth Day, that is, around 4000 years of God's work-Genesis 1:v.16.
The Word is God, understand?