I was talking about those who went into egypt...what is your scriptural reason to say I am mistaken that those who went to egypt were going in disobedience? They were the remnant left over...if you read the account fully you'll see that Nebuchudnezza had put Gedeliah in charge of those remaining over in Judah, but they killed Gedeliah and were then in fear of the reprisal from Babylon. So they asked Jeremiah for Gods assistence and direction. When God instructed them to remain in Judah and he would protect them, they didnt believe that Jeremiah was telling them the truth and so gathered the remaining ones up and they all went to Egypt together...the wives of the king and the men of Judah and the daughters...they all went along willingly...they were not forced to go.
At this God pronounced his anger at their disobedience and said that he would allow them to be taken by the sword of all the kingdoms around them. They were doomed...all of them. Jeremiah was an exception because he was telling them to stay in Judah as God had commanded.
Yes, they were going in disobedience but were all of them in disobedience? Jeremiah was the one standing there telling them DON'T GO TO EGYPT! They were not simply gathered to join the procession and happily dance off to Egypt. They were TAKEN. The daughters were in the care of Jeremiah....Jeremiah was the one telling them not to go. Do you think after telling them not to go that Jeremiah willingly went with them?
Jeremiah 43:1- 2 And it came to pass, that when Jeremiah had made an end of speaking unto all the people all the words of the LORD their God, for which the LORD their God had sent him to them, even all these words, Then spake Azariah the son of Hoshaiah, and Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the proud men, saying unto Jeremiah, Thou speakest falsely: the LORD our God hath not sent thee to say, Go not into Egypt to sojourn there:
43:4-6 So Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, and all the people, obeyed not the voice of the LORD, to dwell in the land of Judah. But Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, took all the remnant of Judah, that were returned from all nations, whither they had been driven, to dwell in the land of Judah; Even men, and women, and children, and the king's daughters, and every person that Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard had left with Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Jeremiah the prophet, and Baruch the son of Neriah.
43:4-6 So Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, and all the people, obeyed not the voice of the LORD, to dwell in the land of Judah. But Johanan the son of Kareah, and all the captains of the forces, took all the remnant of Judah, that were returned from all nations, whither they had been driven, to dwell in the land of Judah; Even men, and women, and children, and the king's daughters, and every person that Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard had left with Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Jeremiah the prophet, and Baruch the son of Neriah.
Remember, in [Jeremiah 42 & 43] God tells us who this "Johanan and captains of the forces" were. They WERE NOT God's people. They followed another god for they said to Jeremiah.....Thou speakest falsely: the LORD our God hath not sent thee to say, Go not into Egypt to sojourn there: [43:2]
Now with regard to the tree. You need to read further in the account to the point where Nebudcudnezz comes to realise that all rulerships belong to God....even his own kingdoms rulership
Yes...I know what the king of Babylon does. Please understand...the king of Babylon represents SATAN.
You see, all rulerships on this earth stand in their relative positions only because God allows them, if he wants to chop them down he can, if he wants to build them up he can because God is the ultimate authority no matter who is ruling the world. This tree was to show the king that the rulership really belonged to God. Notice also that God left the rootstock of the tree in the ground and put a band around it and said " to the one whom he wants to he gives it." God has the power to remove kings or to make kings... the one who was finally given the ultimate authority was in fact Jesus Christ who is now ruling from the throne of God situated in heaven.
Yes...I know all rulership is because God allows it. But...The tree under discussion, the tree in Daniel, is NOT OF GOD. In the previous post you said.....
"The tree representing Gods rulership is found in Daniel chpt 4. God gave the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar a vision about an immense tree which Daniel explained for him. This was after Babylon had destroyed Judah and Nebuchadnezzar was the king ruling in place of a Judean king....it was as if Nebuchadnezzar was ruling in place of God."
That isn't correct. There are two trees in the garden. One of those trees is the one Daniel spoke of. And...it isn't the Tree of Life.