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OSAS believers are extremely judgmental. They can get away with anything and still be saved, but we who don't believe OSAS can't.
Well gee, if you're right I have nothing to worry about. I CAN'T be lost! But you're not right. Many who believe they can't be lost will indeed be lost and the preachers of OSAS will have lots of blood on their hands on Judgment Day.OSAS - is the belief that AFTER a man's Soul IS SAVED, THAT man's Soul IS SAVED Forever.
That act OF Salvation OF a man's Soul, IS EXPRESSLY Between the Lord God and That one man's soul.
Not once has a DENIER of "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED" produced one iota of Scriptural Evidence ... That the Lord God HAS Blessed a man WITH his souls salvation...
AND THEN..."unsaved" that man's soul.
Deniers of OSAS...go off on a tangent...using a catch phrase... "license to Sin"...
Instead of attacking OSAS believers...
Why do you never provide Scriptural Evidence, of the Lord God reneging on His Blessing of His Gift of Salvation Being given a man and THEN Taken back By the Lord God?
Hummm?
Those who fall by the wayside are those who have stony Hearts. Those who have stony Hearts are the ones who receive the Message of Christ, but because the Message, or the Seed, cannot grow upon or within anything made of stone, the sun scorches the seedling and it dies. There is no root within the Heart of a person whose Heart is made of stone.
The belief that Christians can live as the world lives suggests they do not have a changed heart. The warnings against riotous living are many and I fear for their souls. Personally, I believe it is a doctrine of the devil that has crept into the church.
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Not once has a DENIER of "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED" produced one iota of Scriptural Evidence ...
Well gee, if you're right I have nothing to worry about. I CAN'T be lost! But you're not right. Many who believe they can't be lost will indeed be lost and the preachers of OSAS will have lots of blood on their hands on Judgment Day.
There is plenty of evidence.
I think all of that describes your post quite well. There is ZERO Scriptural evidence of OSAS! If you make it I surely will make it.Yet again...as expected...
irrelevant snarky remarks...
personal False accusations...
Zero Scriptural Evidence.
Try Again...
But yet you provide NONE.
Such irony! There is ZERO Scriptural evidence of OSAS! If you make it I surely will make it.
Post #4 for starters...
Hebrews 10:26 (NKJV)Heb 10:
[12] But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
You consider yourself perfected?Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that
ARE sanctified.
1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)2 John 1:
[2] For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
There is no OSAS in the Bible.So Do REVEAL your Scriptural Evidence that THOSE THAT ARE Sanctified ARE subject to LOSING their Salvation.
The Amplified Bible reads (1 John 3:9) - No one who is born of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, because God’s seed [His principle of life, the essence of His righteous character] remains [permanently] in him [who is born again—who is reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose]; and he [who is born again] cannot habitually [live a life characterized by] sin, because he is born of God and longs to please Him.These verses need to be correctly interpreted in order to avoid misleading people. Merely quoting them does no one any good.
1 John 3:9
πᾶς ὁ γεγεννημένος ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ ἁμαρτίαν οὐ ποιεῖ, ὅτι σπέρμα αὐτοῦ ἐν αὐτῷ μένει· καὶ οὐ δύναται ἁμαρτάνειν, ὅτι ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ γεγέννηται.
The interlinear translation of this verse is: Anyone -- having been born of God -- sin not practices, because seed of Him in him abides, and not he is able to continue sinning, because of God he has been born.
Expressing this idiomatically, it says: Anyone --having been born of God, DOES NOT PRACTICE SIN, because His [God's] seed abides in him. And he is not able TO CONTINUE SINNING, because he has been born of God.
This corresponds to the Bible truth that when a sinner is regenerated, he or she receives a new heart, a new spirit, a new nature, and "a new man". This new nature is consistent with God's nature, since it is indwelt by the Holy Spirit. So the "new man" does not practice sin nor does he continue sinning.
But this does not mean sinless perfection for the simple reason that the old Adamic nature -- "the flesh" -- has not been eradicated. And the flesh will cause Christians to stumble, sin, and fall, in spite of the new nature. Therefore Paul says that there is an inner conflict between the flesh and the Spirit. At the same time, Paul says that those who have crucified or mortified the flesh will walk in the Spirit.
1Jn 3:9 God's children cannot keep on being sinful. His life-giving power lives in them and makes them his children, so that they cannot keep on sinning.The Amplified Bible reads (1 John 3:9) - No one who is born of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, because God’s seed [His principle of life, the essence of His righteous character] remains [permanently] in him [who is born again—who is reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose]; and he [who is born again] cannot habitually [live a life characterized by] sin, because he is born of God and longs to please Him.
The NASB reads (1 John 3:9) - No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. The idea of practice pertains to one's lifestyle or bent of life. To have weak moments and stumble and sin intermittently is different than making these behaviors a willful, habitual lifestyle.
In regards to 1 John 3:9, Greek scholar AT Robertson points out - Doeth no sin (amartian ou poiei). Linear present active indicative as in verse John 4 like amartanei in verse John 8 . The child of God does not have the habit of sin. His seed (sperma autou). God's seed, "the divine principle of life" (Vincent). Cf. John 1 . And he cannot sin (kai ou dunatai amartanein). This is a wrong translation, for this English naturally means "and he cannot commit sin" as if it were kai ou dunatai amartein or amarthsai (second aorist or first aorist active infinitive). The present active infinitive amartanein can only mean "and he cannot go on sinning," as is true of amartaneiin verse John 8 and amartanwn in verse John 6 . For the aorist subjunctive to commit a sin see amarthte and amarth in John 2:1 . A great deal of false theology has grown out of a misunderstanding of the tense of amartanein here. Paul has precisely John's idea in Romans 6:1 epimenwmen th amartiai (shall we continue in sin, present active linear subjunctive) in contrast with amarthswmen in Romans 6:15 (shall we commit a sin, first aorist active subjunctive).
1 John 3:9 Commentary - Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament
To practice sin is to keep on being sinful, willfully, as I already explained in post #135. This does not mean that those who are born of God never stumble and sin at all. (1 John 1:8-10; 1 John 2:1) Do you subscribe to sinless perfection?1Jn 3:9 God's children cannot keep on being sinful. His life-giving power lives in them and makes them his children, so that they cannot keep on sinning.
Who is saying that it doesn't matter at all if you sin or just go and sin all you want? Typical straw man argument from works-salvationists and eternal IN-securists.So why do the OSAS people say it matters not if they sin?
I already explained this in post #135. Do you claim to be sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolutely perfect, 100% of the time? Only one Person who ever walked the earth fit that description -- Jesus Christ.Why are they sinning if they are born again, or are they not born again? The Bible says they cannot sin if they are born again. The Bible also says, By their works they are known.
I am convinced of just the opposite. I've noticed all false religions and cults that teach salvation by works also strongly oppose OSAS, which has always been a major red flag for me.I become more and more convinced that OSAS is the teaching of the deceiver.
Romans 11:20-23 KJV
...because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith.
Yet OSAS adherents dismiss these scriptures.
And furthermore they act contrary to the admonition to not be high minded, but to fear.
Isaiah 66:2 KJV
...to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
OSAS adherents do not tremble at the word at all.
OF course I do NOT tremble IN Fear at the Word of God.
Fear and Trembling...
2 Cor 7:
[15] And his inward affection is more abundant toward you, whilst he remembereth the obedience of you all, how with fear and trembling he receiv-ED him.
People WITHOUT Him..."are in fear"...trembling, wondering, guessing, what will become of them. Heaven or Hell. Forever Saved or forever damned and suffering.
My having RECEIV-ED Him...null and Voids a Fear and Trembling...no longer Applies to me.
Since my Conversion IN Christ;
what Applies TO ME...is:
My Heart is Not Troubled.
I am IN the Lords Peace...
God is Not angry with me...
I am Not Appointed to Wrath, (because of Gods Anger)..
John 14:
[1] Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
[27] Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
Rom 5:
[9] Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
They proudly change the truth into a lie without reservation.
That is YOUR Opinion, and frankly irrelevant.
I am unashamedly Confidant, in What the Lord God has Offered, I accepted, He Gave Once and Forever to me.
And exalt Him in my personal Thankfulness.
Accredit Him for His Offering.
Accredit Him for His Gifts to and for the willing to Receive.
CAN Point interested men to Gods Word OF How they also may receive His Gift of Salvation.
That is NOT Pride...
That IS Exalting The Lord God.
That is not changing Gods Word into a Lie.
Glory to God, Faithful and True,
Taken
I am fed up with hearing this feeble excuse. You cannot fall from grace if you never received it. The message is to believers.
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Sadly OSAS is bastardised by Satanist.