Should Trump Step Down?

[Prayer Warrior]

To answer the OP question:

Absolutely not! Not before every legal vote is counted! And not after...because he won the election!

 

[Roslyn Janke]

While I lothe to see the end of America, my first responsibility is to the Lord.

AMEN Praise the Lord

 

[Roslyn Janke]

To answer the OP question:

Absolutely not! Not before every legal vote is counted! And not after...because he won the election!

I agree with you the President should not step down, he is the rightful voted in President - elect
soon to be President of the United States of America for a second term I have faith that Trump
will win as it must all go through congress first GOD bless you Prayer Warrior

 

[Bobby Jo]

... I was a student in what was actually a cult x-tian school for a few years. ...

Makes a righteous man want to "CONVERT" that "school" to ASH. And I'm quite confident that GOD is "converting" those individual as we speak.

And the sad thing is that we see just as much unrighteousness in the church as we see in the world, -- if not more ...

With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I don't believe in the "great reset". I mean, I think there are people trying to do that. But I think God is going to get the drop on them all! They will make their plans, do their shenanigans, when suddenly, Sudden Destruction. God will reset the world for us through global cataclysmic earthquake, and it will be in that environment the beast will rise. Or so it seems to me.

Much love!

Well there will be a one world govt. and God is simply holding it back until He decides to let it come to pass. If Covid -19 plunges the world into greater depression and economic collapse, it could be the 1 world govt. that comes to the rescue and pull us back from the brink ! Gods Word tell sus many things that must come to pass in the future, but how they work out on planet earth is what we have to wait to see!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

In the case of BHO, I don't think anyone thought fraud had been perpetrated to allow him to assume the office because had he lost we'd have been stuck with John McCain, who was in his time showing the first signs of what appeared to be dementia but was actually the resultant effects of his brain cancer, and the airhead Sarah Palin. When a MSM person interviews you and knows more about politics, the law, the Constitution, and how government works, might want to reconsider voting for what would be the most powerful woman on earth should McCain have won and stepped down due to health.

Also, the idea of fraud exposure may not have been broached for the same reason a Democrat in Congress , fed up with BHO's behavior in office, stated was the reason he wasn't impeached; no one wanted to have the charge of racism attached to their efforts to prosecute.
If fraud had been accused against BHO's campaign that's sure what would have come to the fore in defense.

In Philly, (Philadelphia), there were thugs outside voting stations carrying baseball bats and threatening people waiting to vote. Where were the cops?
That's what those people were asking.

If JB were allowed into office it would be BHO's third term. No doubt in my mind, BHO, HRC, Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, are all party to this election steal.

Well Obama did win fair and square, but that still didn't stop the Democratic fraud train from running in that election.

I do not consider Biden to be a third Obama term. The fact He chose Sen, Harris as his VP tells me this: Joe will either step down or retire via the 25th amendment within a year. Harris will step up as POTUS and get an Ocasio Cortez like marxist to be her VP.

I am not even going to be surprised if the Ga. runoff goes to teh Dems. The only thing unknown is how they are going to finagle the election with so many eyes watching them.

 

[lforrest]

Well Obama did win fair and square, but that still didn't stop the Democratic fraud train from running in that election.

I do not consider Biden to be a third Obama term. The fact He chose Sen, Harris as his VP tells me this: Joe will either step down or retire via the 25th amendment within a year. Harris will step up as POTUS and get an Ocasio Cortez like marxist to be her VP.

I am not even going to be surprised if the Ga. runoff goes to teh Dems. The only thing unknown is how they are going to finagle the election with so many eyes watching them.

I'm no longer convinced of our election integrity, though I'm sure it was better in the past. Obama's election wasn't exactly a landslide.

 

[Bobby Jo]

I'm no longer convinced of our election integrity, though I'm sure it was better in the past. Obama's election wasn't exactly a landslide.

... and coincidentally, neither was Biden's. So now it begs the question (which other's have already proposed), -- did Obama cheat in the 2012 Election?

And the answer appears to be YES!
Bobby Jo

 

[WaterSong]

Well Obama did win fair and square, but that still didn't stop the Democratic fraud train from running in that election.

I do not consider Biden to be a third Obama term. The fact He chose Sen, Harris as his VP tells me this: Joe will either step down or retire via the 25th amendment within a year. Harris will step up as POTUS and get an Ocasio Cortez like marxist to be her VP.

I am not even going to be surprised if the Ga. runoff goes to teh Dems. The only thing unknown is how they are going to finagle the election with so many eyes watching them.

If the fraud train was running during the Democrat BHO election how would BHO then win fair and square?

 

[WaterSong]

So many ways this election doesn't pass the "smell test"!

And the guy from the Amistead Project . . . "why didn't they want observers?"

I've recently read that 3 out of 4 Republicans and 1 of 2 Democrats think this election was rigged.

One has to wonder why more people aren't wanting to audit the election. What are they afraid of? Don't they want us to have confidence?

Much love!

Agreed. This election didn't pass the smell test when it was reported in one district Biden, a racist, received more votes from black voters in this election than did Obama during his 2016 run.
I think the corrupt powers that be let that happen to offset the racism charge. The same reason JB's handlers attached KH to his ticket. Courting the vote of women, and hoping Republican women who don't like Trump would cross over and vote for JB/KH. And courting the vote from people of color. Identity politics!
Just like Biden is doing as he currently forms his cabinet. Optimistic little guy isn't he? But he's having fun and he's very old and suffering Alzheimer's, so what's the harm.
Reality is going to hit him hard. Let him play for now, I say. :)

KH still hasn't officially announced she's resigning her Senate seat. She's a trained attorney also. Me thinks she's not as easily led as we thought.
She left the campaign trail for lack of funding when running for president. That says a lot! No one wanted to $upport her race for the highest office then? And now "someone" chose her to be in that seat by putting her in the VP one? When Biden isn't fit to serve four years?

 

[Bobby Jo]

If the fraud train was running during the Democrat BHO election how would BHO then win fair and square?

LOL, -- EXACTLY!!!

With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

 

[WaterSong]

Even before a selection was announced for VP candidate, it was announce it would be a colored woman. An Affirmative Action VP. There ya' go!

Much love!

Of course. Even KH engaged in IP once she was on the ticket. What didn't get a lot of legs in the MSM, no surprise, was her dad going public and chastising her for that.
Her dad!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I'm no longer convinced of our election integrity, though I'm sure it was better in the past. Obama's election wasn't exactly a landslide.

Well having voted since Nixon (1972) and being a history buff, our election integrity has always been lousy. But I will admit, 2016&2020 seem to be the worst so far.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I figure this is either the slide into the end of the age, or at the very least a real escalation in birth pangs!

Much love!

It definitely do appear that way. But I am more inclined to think that the Corona virus is the major culprit into getting us into teh prophesied 1 world govt. America in the last days is just another gentile nation that will follow the antichrist.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

If the fraud train was running during the Democrat BHO election how would BHO then win fair and square?

Because even without the Dem machine cheating, running agianst John McCain did not take much to win.

I love McCain, I think He was a very honorable and decent man, but lousy candidate for POTUS. He secured His loss because He was not as flashy, charming and well versed (sounding) as Obama. this is the age of the media driven candidates.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

... and coincidentally, neither was Biden's. So now it begs the question (which other's have already proposed), -- did Obama cheat in the 2012 Election?

And the answer appears to be YES!
Bobby Jo

I don't know if it was Obama directly, or just the Dem machine doing what it always does. Outside of Hillary, I think teh candidates keep themselves away from teh dark side and refuse to learn what is going on. PLausible deniability.

 

[BarneyFife]

If the following were true:

I am going to present what I believe actually has taken place in the 2020 Election, but this is not intended as a debate over whether it has or not. The debate is over what you think a President should do IF this is what happened; i.e. what should ANY sitting President do if such a scenario actually took place.

The scenario: I believe genuine fraud took place on a large enough scale to turn the election, through mail-in ballots and corrupt computer software, as well as at the counting facilities. But to keep cases of voter fraud from reaching the courts, the powers that be managed to pack the numbers SO heavily in favor of Biden that cases could NOT and cannot be presented to the courts because ostensibly the numbers do not justify it, i.e. in light of Biden's "massive" win, such relatively small cases of voter fraud will not make a difference.

So in effect, the scenario is that voter fraud sufficient to turn the election has taken place, but cases for it will not be presented to the courts because the perpetrators have outsmarted the legal system. Thus, the implications are that if this situation is not somehow corrected in time, this may be the last genuinely Democratic election held in the country, given that they have now perfected a system for ensuring that every election from this point forward can be manipulated by one party in particular.

Given such a scenario, do you think a sitting President should step aside on January 20th, or refuse to do so and fight for the continuation of Democracy in the United States, even if it means war? This country arose out of war, so we are no strangers to it. The question is, do you think such a scenario would be proper cause for the American populace to go to war again?

God bless, and I will leave the thread to responses,
Hidden In Him

By and large, Americans no longer have the stomach for war. At least, not one that would involve fighting house-to-house on our own soil. We're not as crazy as we are addicted to leisure. No one really believes that things will be so bad if either party prevails that we should engage in something that would divert our attention, efforts, and yeah even our affections from our Internet-of-things (IoT) society. We seldom talk honestly about what we really care about. Talk is still cheap and we, more than ever, revel in it. Nothing is so dear to Americans as creature-comforts, our own opinions, and our gadgets.

(Grammarly says the tone of my post is joyful.)

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

If the following were true:

I am going to present what I believe actually has taken place in the 2020 Election, but this is not intended as a debate over whether it has or not. The debate is over what you think a President should do IF this is what happened; i.e. what should ANY sitting President do if such a scenario actually took place.

The scenario: I believe genuine fraud took place on a large enough scale to turn the election, through mail-in ballots and corrupt computer software, as well as at the counting facilities. But to keep cases of voter fraud from reaching the courts, the powers that be managed to pack the numbers SO heavily in favor of Biden that cases could NOT and cannot be presented to the courts because ostensibly the numbers do not justify it, i.e. in light of Biden's "massive" win, such relatively small cases of voter fraud will not make a difference.

So in effect, the scenario is that voter fraud sufficient to turn the election has taken place, but cases for it will not be presented to the courts because the perpetrators have outsmarted the legal system. Thus, the implications are that if this situation is not somehow corrected in time, this may be the last genuinely Democratic election held in the country, given that they have now perfected a system for ensuring that every election from this point forward can be manipulated by one party in particular.

Given such a scenario, do you think a sitting President should step aside on January 20th, or refuse to do so and fight for the continuation of Democracy in the United States, even if it means war? This country arose out of war, so we are no strangers to it. The question is, do you think such a scenario would be proper cause for the American populace to go to war again?

God bless, and I will leave the thread to responses,
Hidden In Him

"Every person is to be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves." Romans 13:1-2

Don't worry, God has it all under control! He will appoint whom He will appoint - for a purpose. Now considering that this country has become soooo corrupt in every area, could be it is time for Judgment. If He allows this massive fraud and Biden to be elected, it just means we are in or just preceding the the Great Tribulation Period. Frankly, I thought when Gay Marriage was legalized, judgment was right around the corner. The pandemic I would say must be part of the "Beginning of Sorrows" as described in Matthew 24.
Looking back and taking into account that all that the Left threw at Trump for four years and none of it stuck; and in addition to all that, just a month before the election, we get a new Supreme Court Justice, you would think that God is with Trump and has prepared him for another term. Then again, Biden and Harris would usher us quickly into this New World Order/ the Great Reset and jumpstart God's end time scenario. I just don't know, but I am confident that God has a purpose. Honestly, Trump can't thwart the Antichrist and prevent the Great Tribulation, so if we have him for another four, what's the purpose of that? Well, let's see, China is behind this pandemic and election fraud possibly because those Trade agreements didn't sit well with them. So if Trump miraculously wins, what will the they do? Their final hand to play would be war. That's when we will need someone that will not hesitate to press buttons. Also Iran is close to having nukes and will join with other countries to attack Israel. They need us to have their backs. If Trump is in, we will. If Biden is in, we won't. A Biden win will completely destabilize the Mid-East and war will be imminent. So, the Rider of the Black Horse will be on his way.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... Trump can't thwart the Antichrist and prevent the Great Tribulation, so if we have him for another four, what's the purpose of that? ...

Rev. 11:7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them ...​

The answer seems obvious to me, and it won't be for Four More YEARS, --- but closer to less than Four More MONTHS ...
Bobby Jo

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Rev. 11:7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends from the bottomless pit will make war upon them and conquer them and kill them ...​

The answer seems obvious to me, and it won't be for Four More YEARS, --- but closer to less than Four More MONTHS ...
Bobby Jo

If you think Trump is one if the two witnesses (who will likely be Elijah and Enoch), then you should probably read some commentary of numerous scholars to het some insight. These witnesses preach in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years to the Jews ... in their language!
The Antichrist - (whoever he is) will certainly try to kill Trump if he miraculously wins. When he us empowered he will go after all of us and the Jews.