Earthquake

[Raccoon1010]

I had this strange vision last night as I laid in bed, I heard a massive earthquake and it shook terribly, then it subsided, and next it came again, this time more intense, and I looked at the road and it waved up and down massively.

But I didn't get a location, just a massive earthquake, must have been like a 7.0 or 8.0 plus

Now I'm worried about my location in Washington state We haven't had an earthquake in a while and are due for one.

 

[Pathfinder7]

I had this strange vision last night as I laid in bed, I heard a massive earthquake and it shook terribly, then it subsided, and next it came again, this time more intense, and I looked at the road and it waved up and down massively.

But I didn't get a location, just a massive earthquake, must have been like a 7.0 or 8.0 plus

Now I'm worried about my location in Washington state We haven't had an earthquake in a while and are due for one.

California is waiting for..the 'Big One.'
- I assume that you know..
----
I have a friend in Southern California.
- He went through earthquake, wildfire, etc..

 

[Raccoon1010]

California is waiting for..the 'Big One.'
- I assume that you know..
----
I have a friend in Southern California.
- He went through earthquake, wildfire, etc..

I used to live in California, and while I was down there I had a vision of a massive quake and it appeared down the timeline in front of me. But that was 10 years ago and so far nothing.

I'm very lucky, I've been in 1 earthquake in Washington state and heard Mt. Saint Helens erupt. And I'm scared of earthquakes, so when I moved to California for 10 years, Washington had a large earthquake and I missed it. Then I moved back to Washington, so I'm hoping I missed the quakes :)

 

[Bobby Jo]

I had this strange vision last night as I laid in bed, I heard a massive earthquake and it shook terribly, then it subsided, and next it came again, this time more intense, and I looked at the road and it waved up and down massively.
...

There's LITERAL earthquakes, and POLITICAL earthquakes. -- Have you considered the latter?

Bobby Jo :)

 

[Jay Ross]

I used to live in California, and while I was down there I had a vision of a massive quake and it appeared down the timeline in front of me. But that was 10 years ago and so far nothing.

Why is that so?

Well, in the New Testament translations, the Greek word "seismon," has been wrongly translated into our "English Bibles" as "earthquake" whereas it is better understood to have the meaning of "Turmoil."

The first time this Greek word is found in the Book of Matthew, it is describing the "turmoil" in the waters of the lake surrounding the boat that they were in. The turmoil the disciples were afraid of as fishermen upon the lake was the turmoil of the waves being reflected back and forth across the surface of the lake and the standing waves this caused, that could swamp the boat that they were in as the higher than normal waves came over the sides of the boat. The Greek Root word, G:4578 can be consistently translated in the New Testament as "turmoil" such that when the Angel descended to roll away the stone, the set guards of the tomb experienced great turmoil and fled from the tomb when the angel appeared above them in the sky as he descended to the face of the earth to roll away the stone.

In your vision/dream you observed turmoil in the surface of a road as if moved up and down. What we have seen over the past four to five years is the turmoil in the people of America because Trump won the Presidential Election over Hilary a little over four years ago and the demonically influenced agitation of at least half of the people of America has intensified since then to the point where the demonic influence convinced people of influence to rig the election result such that their "man" "won" irrespective of the voting patterns of the people as they cast their vote.

Scripture in Jer. 51:13-14 tells us that God will cause a people to fill your nation "with men, as with locust," and, "they will lift up a shout against you." i.e. A shout of victory.

It would seem that your dream is true and has been happening right in front of you, but because you have been wrongly looking for earthquakes to happen, you have missed observing the outcome climax of your vision as has happened in recent months.

Shalom

PS: - Isaiah. 29:5-8, Ezekiel 38:18-23, Amos. 1:1-2, Zechariah, 14:5 all speak of turmoil happening during the unfolding of the events that are described in these referenced verses.

 

[Raccoon1010]

There's LITERAL earthquakes, and POLITICAL earthquakes. -- Have you considered the latter?

Bobby Jo :)

Perhaps, I received a confirmation that it is to be a literal earthquake though.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Why is that so?

Well, in the New Testament translations, the Greek word "seismon," has been wrongly translated into our "English Bibles" as "earthquake" whereas it is better understood to have the meaning of "Turmoil."

The first time this Greek word is found in the Book of Matthew, it is describing the "turmoil" in the waters of the lake surrounding the boat that they were in. The turmoil the disciples were afraid of as fishermen upon the lake was the turmoil of the waves being reflected back and forth across the surface of the lake and the standing waves this caused, that could swamp the boat that they were in as the higher than normal waves came over the sides of the boat. The Greek Root word, G:4578 can be consistently translated in the New Testament as "turmoil" such that when the Angel descended to roll away the stone, the set guards of the tomb experienced great turmoil and fled from the tomb when the angel appeared above them in the sky as he descended to the face of the earth to roll away the stone.

In your vision/dream you observed turmoil in the surface of a road as if moved up and down. What we have seen over the past four to five years is the turmoil in the people of America because Trump won the Presidential Election over Hilary a little over four years ago and the demonically influenced agitation of at least half of the people of America has intensified since then to the point where the demonic influence convinced people of influence to rig the election result such that their "man" "won" irrespective of the voting patterns of the people as they cast their vote.

Scripture in Jer. 51:13-14 tells us that God will cause a people to fill your nation "with men, as with locust," and, "they will lift up a shout against you." i.e. A shout of victory.

It would seem that your dream is true and has been happening right in front of you, but because you have been wrongly looking for earthquakes to happen, you have missed observing the outcome climax of your vision as has happened in recent months.

Shalom

PS: - Isaiah. 29:5-8, Ezekiel 38:18-23, Amos. 1:1-2, Zechariah, 14:5 all speak of turmoil happening during the unfolding of the events that are described in these referenced verses.

That might be true for the earthquake vision 10 years ago. I afterwards went thru a terrible divorce and had other bad things happen to me for years. Cheers.

 

[Jay Ross]

That might be true for the earthquake vision 10 years ago. I afterwards went thru a terrible divorce and had other bad things happen to me for years. Cheers.

I am sorry that you went through great turmoil in your life since you had that dream. Perhaps that experience was an expanded part of your vision and what it would be symbolically like.

Shalom

 

[Raccoon1010]

Why is that so?

Well, in the New Testament translations, the Greek word "seismon," has been wrongly translated into our "English Bibles" as "earthquake" whereas it is better understood to have the meaning of "Turmoil."

The first time this Greek word is found in the Book of Matthew, it is describing the "turmoil" in the waters of the lake surrounding the boat that they were in. The turmoil the disciples were afraid of as fishermen upon the lake was the turmoil of the waves being reflected back and forth across the surface of the lake and the standing waves this caused, that could swamp the boat that they were in as the higher than normal waves came over the sides of the boat. The Greek Root word, G:4578 can be consistently translated in the New Testament as "turmoil" such that when the Angel descended to roll away the stone, the set guards of the tomb experienced great turmoil and fled from the tomb when the angel appeared above them in the sky as he descended to the face of the earth to roll away the stone.

In your vision/dream you observed turmoil in the surface of a road as if moved up and down. What we have seen over the past four to five years is the turmoil in the people of America because Trump won the Presidential Election over Hilary a little over four years ago and the demonically influenced agitation of at least half of the people of America has intensified since then to the point where the demonic influence convinced people of influence to rig the election result such that their "man" "won" irrespective of the voting patterns of the people as they cast their vote.

Scripture in Jer. 51:13-14 tells us that God will cause a people to fill your nation "with men, as with locust," and, "they will lift up a shout against you." i.e. A shout of victory.

It would seem that your dream is true and has been happening right in front of you, but because you have been wrongly looking for earthquakes to happen, you have missed observing the outcome climax of your vision as has happened in recent months.

Shalom

PS: - Isaiah. 29:5-8, Ezekiel 38:18-23, Amos. 1:1-2, Zechariah, 14:5 all speak of turmoil happening during the unfolding of the events that are described in these referenced verses.

You're absolutely right. After that vision I had two health problems and a plumbing problem in my apartment. God apparently was teaching me the turmoil definition. Cheers! And merry Christmas.

 

[Oseas]

I had this strange vision last night as I laid in bed, I heard a massive earthquake and it shook terribly, then it subsided, and next it came again, this time more intense, and I looked at the road and it waved up and down massively.

But I didn't get a location, just a massive earthquake, must have been like a 7.0 or 8.0 plus

Now I'm worried about my location in Washington state We haven't had an earthquake in a while and are due for one.

JESUS warned: In the END of the times there will be pestilences - it is fulfilling LITERALLY-, and famines, and earthquakes in divers places. I am looking for the LITERAL fulfilling of these signs of JESUS return.

 

[Oseas]

JESUS warned: In the END of the times there will be pestilences - it is fulfilling LITERALLY-, and famines, and earthquakes in divers places. I am looking for the LITERAL fulfilling of these signs of JESUS return.

To all
Remember: Our Lord JESUS Christ left very clear saying: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Again:
JESUS warned: In the END of the times there will be pestilences - it is fulfilling LITERALLY-, and famines, and earthquakes in divers places. I am looking for the LITERAL fulfilling of these signs of JESUS return.

It doesn't matter JESUS being invisible for now, we - His people - know that nothing prevents Him from executing His Word, Word of Truth. Matt.24:v.7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Pestilences: It is already fulfilling LITERALLY;

Earthquakes in divers places: There was one in Turkey days ago, and today in Croatia;

Famines: From now on this terrible problem will go to get worse, exceedingly;

Nation against nation: It is starting right now and it will get worse over time.

The Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him), and LORD of lords

 

[Raccoon1010]

To all
Remember: Our Lord JESUS Christ left very clear saying: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Again:
JESUS warned: In the END of the times there will be pestilences - it is fulfilling LITERALLY-, and famines, and earthquakes in divers places. I am looking for the LITERAL fulfilling of these signs of JESUS return.

It doesn't matter JESUS being invisible for now, we - His people - know that nothing prevents Him from executing His Word, Word of Truth. Matt.24:v.7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Pestilences: It is already fulfilling LITERALLY;

Earthquakes in divers places: There was one in Turkey days ago, and today in Croatia;

Famines: From now on this terrible problem will go to get worse, exceedingly;

Nation against nation: It is starting right now and it will get worse over time.

The Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him), and LORD of lords

Nation against nation has already happened with world war I & II I would think.

 

[Jay Ross]

Nation against nation has already happened with world war I & II I would think.

Look at Rev. 16:17-21 for a comparison, and the confirming time stamps, 1926, Babylon was remembered once more and peopled after two ages of being devastated and desolated by the Greek Empire, and 1948 when Jerusalem was divided into three partitions, to be overseen by Brittan, Jordan and the UN. During the Middle East campaign during WW1, the cities of the nations were levelled.

Poor understanding of the Greek texts leads people to be looking for wrong events to hang their hats on and say, "Look at Me, look at me, My understanding is so great," but the physical earthquakes where the ground shakes, are only showing the the creation is groaning under the weight of the sin by the people on the earth.

Earthquakes in divers places: There was one in Turkey days ago, and today in Croatia;

An angel descended from heaven to roll away the stone and there was a great earthquake which one would have expected the historical record of the day would have noted that occurrence of the earth shaking, but it does not.

Oh well, because I am simply quoting a fallible translation of the Greek source text, I must be right then.

 

[Raccoon1010]

An angel descended from heaven to roll away the stone and there was a great earthquake which one would have expected the historical record of the day would have noted that occurrence of the earth shaking, but it does not.

Oh well, because I am simply quoting a fallible translation of the Greek source text, I must be right then.

OK, here's the deal, the translations I use have the word earthquake in them, so what makes your translation better than others? In fact all the translations I see use the word "earthquake": Luke 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines, and pestilences in various places, along with fearful sights and great signs from heaven.

 

[Jay Ross]

OK, here's the deal, the translations I use have the word earthquake in them, so what makes your translation better than others? In fact all the translations I see use the word "earthquake": Luke 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines, and pestilences in various places, along with fearful sights and great signs from heaven.

The same Greek word if we are being consistent in how we translate the Greek Words that have embedded in them the Greek Root word G:4587, like in Matt. 8:24 should then be translated in this manner as every other occurrence is to be completely consistent?

Matt 8:24: - 24 And suddenly a great tempest/earthquake arose on the sea, so that the boat was covered with the waves. But He was asleep.

Now if you have ever crossed a bar at the entrance to a river, you would know about the turmoil that you see in the waves which can come from any direction and how they can tower up as a standing wave and swamp the boat, or it can be rolled over and the occupants of the boat thrown out into the waters of the bar. This is also true in many lakes where the waves are reflected off the shorelines and cliffs. The fishermen among Jesus' disciples were more concerned about the turmoil occurring in the wave around the boat than the strong wind. Remember, they only had oars to power the boat with, unlike the outboard motors that are hung off the back of todays boats.

So just because the translations you refer too have "seismos," translated as earthquake, does not mean that the translations you have referred too are correct in the translation of "seismos." The problem, to cause such a change in our present English translations will cause suck an uprising in the owners of their favourite translations that there will be much disagreement, because people do not like being confronted with change.

One of the issues today is that many translations reflect more of the flawed opinions of people of this particular time period, rather than the true meaning of the source text being transposed into the English texts which we call our holy scriptures.

Perhaps you may like to reflect on your post #9 in this thread.

 

[Raccoon1010]

The same Greek word if we are being consistent in how we translate the Greek Words that have embedded in them the Greek Root word G:4587, like in Matt. 8:24 should then be translated in this manner as every other occurrence is to be completely consistent?

Matt 8:24: - 24 And suddenly a great tempest/earthquake arose on the sea, so that the boat was covered with the waves. But He was asleep.

Now if you have ever crossed a bar at the entrance to a river, you would know about the turmoil that you see in the waves which can come from any direction and how they can tower up as a standing wave and swamp the boat, or it can be rolled over and the occupants of the boat thrown out into the waters of the bar. This is also true in many lakes where the waves are reflected off the shorelines and cliffs. The fishermen among Jesus' disciples were more concerned about the turmoil occurring in the wave around the boat than the strong wind. Remember, they only had oars to power the boat with, unlike the outboard motors that are hung off the back of todays boats.

So just because the translations you refer too have "seismos," translated as earthquake, does not mean that the translations you have referred too are correct in the translation of "seismos." The problem, to cause such a change in our present English translations will cause suck an uprising in the owners of their favourite translations that there will be much disagreement, because people do not like being confronted with change.

One of the issues today is that many translations reflect more of the flawed opinions of people of this particular time period, rather than the true meaning of the source text being transposed into the English texts which we call our holy scriptures.

Perhaps you may like to reflect on your post #9 in this thread.

The point I made was that the expert translators all use earthquake, except you? You should give credit here and not try to undo the bible translations. It will only add confusion I think.

 

[Jay Ross]

The point I made was that the expert translators all use earthquake, except you? You should give credit here and not try to undo the bible translations. It will only add confusion I think.

You are right about the confusion that already exists because of the present translations' errors.

As for giving credit where credit is due, I am doing just that.

Now by my actions I am not trying to undo the bible translations, I am only trying to restore the original message content of the source Creek texts so that the English paraphrase of the message content in the source Greek is reflected in the English translations that we use to learn about God. That high purpose can only reduce the confusion that already exists within the Church and its scholars.

The business bias of producing saleable Bibles and distributing them is the barrier that opposes most changes to correct the existing translations.

Shalom

 

[Oseas]

Nation against nation has already happened with world war I & II I would think.

If you see well, what you have said is the fulfilment of the verse 6 of Matthew 24. JESUS said: 6 And ye shall hear of WARS and rumours of WARS: ... all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet.<---the detail is very important to discern the time of fulfilment of prophecy.
Both wars that you mentioned took place 106 and 80 years ago respectively, and do not refer to the END of the world, not even a SIGN of the coming of JESUS. By the way, there will not be WWIII, by no manner of means.

Nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom

Matthew 24:v.3 - 3 And as JESUS sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto Him privately, saying:
Tell us, WHEN shall these things be? and what shall be the SIGN of thy COMING, and of the END of the world?

The answer of JESUS: Matt.24:v.7 - 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom have nothing to do with WAR(s), but with the END of the current world, and as a SIGN of the return of JESUS.
By the way, 01-01-2021 is the FIRST day of the last decade of this world.

Be careful and get ready

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (kings made by Him exclusively), and LORD of lords

 

[Oseas]

Look at Rev. 16:17-21 for a comparison, and the confirming time stamps, 1926, Babylon was remembered once more and peopled after two ages of being devastated and desolated by the Greek Empire, and 1948 when Jerusalem was divided into three partitions, to be overseen by Brittan, Jordan and the UN. During the Middle East campaign during WW1, the cities of the nations were levelled.

Poor understanding of the Greek texts leads people to be looking for wrong events to hang their hats on and say, "Look at Me, look at me, My understanding is so great," but the physical earthquakes where the ground shakes, are only showing the the creation is groaning under the weight of the sin by the people on the earth.


An angel descended from heaven to roll away the stone and there was a great earthquake which one would have expected the historical record of the day would have noted that occurrence of the earth shaking, but it does not.

Oh well, because I am simply quoting a fallible translation of the Greek source text, I must be right then.

See post 18

 

[Oseas]

OK, here's the deal, the translations I use have the word earthquake in them, so what makes your translation better than others? In fact all the translations I see use the word "earthquake": Luke 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines, and pestilences in various places, along with fearful sights and great signs from heaven.

post 18