Martin Luther Who?

[April_Rose]

Even though it's a day later this just disgusts me. SMH.

 

[wip]

I was hoping this thread was about Martin Luther the reformer.

 

[Rita]

My son and I were discussing Martin Luther the other day, he was listening to a pod cast and he came up in discussion. I always admired him for the changes that came from what he stood up to. However some weeks ago I discovered that Martin Luther was an adulterer, and not just once. Here was this man who proclaimed a powerful message, felt led by The Lord to do what he did, and yet privately his life was a different story.
I am not sure how to separate these new insights because for years I had placed him on a list of people I admired and respected. Now I feel disappointed.
It doesn’t change his achievements , but it does raise a lot more questions for me.
Rosa Parks is someone I have always admired, she took a physical stand personally- the film about her experience had me in tears. Now the way things were then needed to change. That to me is a solid truth.
Society needed to change and grow, and it did.
@Pearl , I think I understand what Reggie is saying , and it may sound like racism on one level but it was how it was, Europeans had advanced more, we had grown a bit quicker because we had the opportunities to grow. You go to the rain Forrest now, or to the remote islands and many tribes are living in what we would call the past, they simply haven’t had the opportunities to advance. So I would view it more from the prospective of culture and the influences that other cultures bring.
I am not so sure that all cultural change that was demanded or expected was the right way as it meant one culture using their powers over the others, sorry but I do see failings in how we chose to just take from others because we felt we were better.
Sorry April, I think we have digressed. Xx
Rita

 

[Addy]

I am not wrong at all, just not Politically Correct that's all as I do not respect people who can't handle the truth dictating to others in the name of abiding in lies just to try and save face to ignorant Godless peoples opinions.

How sad that you identify yourself as a Christian.

 

[amadeus]

You know funnily enough I thought that it was called that when I was younger.

I can remember when we celebrated Washington's Birthday and Lincoln's Birthday as two holidays. They combined them into President's Day to make room for MLK Day.

Of course when I was very young we also had a milk day. It was the day that the milkman delivered glass bottles of milk to our doorstep very early in the morning. My mother needed to remember to put out the clean empty bottles the night before so that the milkman would pick them up and take them back to be refilled when he left us full bottles of fresh milk. My mother would always pour off the thick cream which had risen to the top of the new full bottles. She could do wonders with that cream.

 

[Addy]

Of course when I was very young we also had a milk day. It was the day that the milkman delivered glass bottles of milk to our doorstep very early in the morning. My mother needed to remember to put out the clean empty bottles the night before so that the milkman would pick them up and take them back to be refilled when he left us full bottles of fresh milk. My mother would always pour off the thick cream which had risen to the top of the new full bottles. She could do wonders with that cream.

I sure wish I would have experienced the time where the milkman came door to door... and... wasn't there also an Ice man?? not sure about that..

 

[amadeus]

I sure wish I would have experienced the time where the milkman came door to door... and... wasn't there also an Ice man?? not sure about that..

We never had an ice man. My mother was blessed with a refrigerator, which we called an "ice box" but it operated on electricity and was able to freeze a couple of trays of ice at a time.

 

[April_Rose]

My son and I were discussing Martin Luther the other day, he was listening to a pod cast and he came up in discussion. I always admired him for the changes that came from what he stood up to. However some weeks ago I discovered that Martin Luther was an adulterer, and not just once. Here was this man who proclaimed a powerful message, felt led by The Lord to do what he did, and yet privately his life was a different story.
I am not sure how to separate these new insights because for years I had placed him on a list of people I admired and respected. Now I feel disappointed.
It doesn’t change his achievements , but it does raise a lot more questions for me.
Rosa Parks is someone I have always admired, she took a physical stand personally- the film about her experience had me in tears. Now the way things were then needed to change. That to me is a solid truth.
Society needed to change and grow, and it did.
@Pearl , I think I understand what Reggie is saying , and it may sound like racism on one level but it was how it was, Europeans had advanced more, we had grown a bit quicker because we had the opportunities to grow. You go to the rain Forrest now, or to the remote islands and many tribes are living in what we would call the past, they simply haven’t had the opportunities to advance. So I would view it more from the prospective of culture and the influences that other cultures bring.
I am not so sure that all cultural change that was demanded or expected was the right way as it meant one culture using their powers over the others, sorry but I do see failings in how we chose to just take from others because we felt we were better.
Sorry April, I think we have digressed. Xx
Rita

There's no need to apologize dear. I generally like what you have to say and you really are a sweetheart. :)

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

How sad that you identify yourself as a Christian.

True Christianity is about facing the facts of life and Man and it's all about the Light, Christ Jesus was the light, there was no darkness in him or one can say there are no shadows in him and his way forward for man.

Under Man's works we see a rejection or the belief that Man will make it on his own steam, that is delusional and as such delusions cloud the mind, as we see with Socialism they have many gods that they idolise, they make all types of childish taboo's, so as to create delusions so people live in the shadows claiming to be Christians, so they have one foot in the door claiming to be good Christians and another foot in the door of this world, making claims that they are Christians, but does Jesus say such, No ! you must come into the Kingdom of God and expose this world, that's what being truly born again is about.
Jesus did not care if he offended anyone, he was about the Truth and nothing but the Truth, you know that the people who came to Jesus with a plan to put forward a trick question for him to stumble up on and then as they had planed, this would get the people to stone him to death in fact, but what did Jesus say back ? every time he knocked them off their feet and they were astonished that anyone could come up with making them look like total fools and not to mention they turned and quickly got out of their, slipped around the corner and ran for there miserable lives.

Show me where it says in the Bible that you should not be Racist ? it's not in the Commandments.

But what is Racist ? most people nowadays think that a Racist means racial prejudice, no ! not at all, a racial prejudice person is a moron who is under delusions. but to be racially aware means you are educated on the subject, there is nothing prejudice about such at all, but as to the Satanist of this world who created and abide in delusions for whatever reason is not worthy of God at all.

So what the Social Marxist Socialist agenda is peddling is playing at is that you have no rights to an opinion, they shut down all such as your personal rights have been stolen from you and you have only become a number to your Socialist gods, in fact they own you ! that's how Socialism works they own you and your opinions mean nothing to the leadership, because the public do not have a Socialist Government as representing working them as it once was, you have no rights unless you are informed by the government of what you may have and they rig the system so they dominate over all like a mongrel dog.

I am racially aware I understand what they are about and not ignorant in what they truly need I respect there cultures and rights but I am not blinded by accepting foolishness off anyone.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I am not against such people ? who are under illusions, Jesus came to help people out of there predicament, to show the way.
The way to help one out is to give them strength to overcome delusions and to stand on their own, not the Socialist way of letting a people slide into a position where they have to rely on the Government as you God.

Socialist Governments want you to be bowing down to them as your God and they have no room for Jesus Christ at all, they have been working at undermining him for years, to the point that most that claim to be Christians are on a Mans works program, devoid of the real Jesus Christ and have another Jesus and that Jesus is not the Christ in fact, because they serve Mans works and not Jesus Christ. They do not know him ! and he does not know you ? because you must be truly born again to understand who he truly is. This world is not worthy of him anyway, in fact this world is of Satan who creates delusions and leads you to Sin.

So when people accuse me of being a Racist they are total fools because they are claiming that I am racial prejudice, No ! they are Prejudice, they are pre judging what I am truly about. it's not that way at all !

If there is a problem with a racial body within a area the best thing to do is to truly understand why such is so, do not apply band aid to the problem, one has to tackle the root of the problem first and work from their and let them take care of such themselves, they must admit where they are wrong for a start and only morons rant on and on about the past as a excuse to act like a fool. Socialist only apply band aid solutions because they are stupid short sighted narrow minded people who swallow such delusions.
We have that crap here in Australia with some white as me claiming to be Abos and they rand and rave 24/7 it will never end. they are like the idiot Irish who just can not give it up, I am part Irish myself, I know what they are on about and I support the fact the they were treated badly, not to mention I am peed off about it as well, but ranting and raving like a loony about the past is insane. such as they are a real problem and it's the same with any race, Oh my great great gran was a slave !!!! _O your not so get over it.

 

[Rita]

I sure wish I would have experienced the time where the milkman came door to door... and... wasn't there also an Ice man?? not sure about that..

I still have a milkman bring milk to my door three times a week- we still have them in the U.K. ( not as popular and most people don’t use them, but it’s easier for me )
Rita

 

[Gideons300]

Major problem with Africa and Australia was that they were all in fact savages when Europeans came, the same with the American Indians.
That's one point that is disregarded nowadays due to Political Correctness.

The problem with such savages had to do with them being the problem, not the other way around.
The Christian nations worked to try and stamp out savages way of life, we seen this with Europe as to the Vikings and all the rest of the savages that were living like wild animals. Look at Islam they are still Savages, look at the Jews they are still creepy underhanded leaches that live by the Darwinism animal instinct of shafting all around them, because they reject the Grace of Jesus Christ.

The problem with the Jew before and even nowadays is that they are a bigoted people who look down on everyone, they have a out right racial prejudice point of views and all that they want to do is enslave the whole world. they are of this world ? not of the Kingdom of God, as they reject that. so they are a God less people, only the Jews who truly believed in Moses were worthy to come to Christ Jesus, the rest were and are a curse to God, now the fact remains that all who are not truly born again are under a curse, it's called Sin laden blind savages, that's the root of the problem.

Nowadays we have Satanist that are trying to create delusions for everything, it's all the Christianity fault they peddle from every angle.

The Jews owned the ships and got the Moslems to chase up the negroes to come to the USA etc, smart business men the Jews you know and sold the negroes as slaves, well the negroes culture had slaves as well just as Islam had it's slaves culture as well and just as Europe had it's system of slaves and then serfs.
The Jews ran the Banking system and you could not lend off anyone but the Jews under RC Christianity, why, because the Jews were business men and well educated and Goyim mainly only serfs with little education at all.

What Martin King was on about was just a front, he was a Communist and an ran around like a thug gangster, he was a thug who raped women bashed women bashed others and was just a real grub supported by the Islamic savages who controlled him. all this has been hidden from the public, not to be released until some date.

Your views are so far from the kingdom of God that I am amazed I am reading these words on a Christian forum. They could have been uttered by Hitler early on before he revealed his real nature to Germany.

Your sad views are the epitome of white supremist bigotry, filled with hate, belittling those hat Jesus died for. you ought to be ashamed of yourself. i am praying for you.

Gideon

 

[amadeus]

I still have a milkman bring milk to my door three times a week- we still have them in the U.K. ( not as popular and most people don’t use them, but it’s easier for me )
Rita

Actually when this Covid-19 thing started we discovered that Walmart delivers. Everything we buy from Walmart now with few exceptions is brought to our door including, yes, milk, but now in disposable [but perhaps not biodegradable or reusable] containers.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Your views are so far from the kingdom of God that I am amazed I am reading these words on a Christian forum. They could have been uttered by Hitler early on before he revealed his real nature to Germany.

Your sad views are the epitome of white supremist bigotry, filled with hate, belittling those hat Jesus died for. you ought to be ashamed of yourself. i am praying for you.

Gideon

Your world will never grow up, I could tell you why, but people with a outlook as such can not handle the truth.

Jesus did not die for Satanist bro. such have another Jesus.

As for you claim about Hitler's utterings, oh boy that's rich. I could say the same about Biden with all his intents that I can pick up on.

I have never meat a white supreme anything in Australia.

What your Socialist Godless people are pushing for is childish and uneducated outlook on the world and that's the major problem with the world nowadays.

I knew what would happen with South Africa back in the days that the Socialist worked their lies and took it over and turned it into a backward hellhole with no future, but with the Government before that fast, they did have a path to a future that would of been 1000 times better than they have been lead down that path to nowadays. so the fact is that all the people who supported the Socialist criminal Government that has only been a curse on the black people not to mention all.

Hey I know black African people who escaped all that crap, I worked with them, they told me the story's and yes they are good Christians you know in fact. they know the truth and the facts that South Africa would of been far better off now nowadays if it was not for the childish claims of the world media extreme hype winding up people who knew bugger all about the true in depth situation that was at task, as to the difficulty's involved within the bigger picture ?

But hype won out in the end for what was seen as a noble cause by ignorant narrow minded short sighted people in fact. who claimed it was about black and white. I understand the dimwits like that where they were coming from, such does not take any brain power to know where they are at, but their ignorance is astounding because it's clouded ? and who is the master of delusions ?

You know the fact is that Jesus was not offering a Mans works solution up for his followers ? the Media as to in this case was a mans works madness in fact, that was all about there own mantra, to save face claiming to be a saviour for the people ? but what did Jesus say ? You shall know them by their works ! such as their works are there for all to see, it's a hellhole, run by criminal insane people.

A bigot does not like others to have their own views on a subject, that's Biden all over.

 

[Rita]

Actually when this Covid-19 thing started we discovered that Walmart delivers. Everything we buy from Walmart now with few exceptions is brought to our door including, yes, milk, but now in disposable [but perhaps not biodegradable or reusable] containers.

We have had home delivery services from the big stores for years , I believe your Walmart is the same as our Asda. They started over ten years ago, such a help when you don’t drive. I could get milk from them, but mine comes in glass bottles when it’s delivered from the milkman.
Rita

 

[amadeus]

We have had home delivery services from the big stores for years , I believe your Walmart is the same as our Asda. They started over ten years ago, such a help when you don’t drive. I could get milk from them, but mine comes in glass bottles when it’s delivered from the milkman.
Rita

With my wife's severely compromised immune system she did not go to stores much prior to this lockdown. It fell on me, so the now deliveries has taken that chore off of me. She gets on the computer and makes the order. They always have delivered the next at a specified time.

I don't know of any place close to us that sells milk in glass bottles any more.