I've just had my first dose of Covid vaccine!

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WaterSong

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Yes. It's a standard lesson in how NOT to do research, and one of the reasons why ethical regulation is now so strict.



I've already told you that it wasn't an mRNA vaccine. But we already know that these vaccines are effective, and the consequences of not vaccinating are potentially dire.

It's an 'experiment' only in the sense that every decision we make is an experiment - in that we don't know for certain what the outcome may be. Yet we make decisions, because we have to. This situation is no different.
Yes, I know you told us your vaccine wasn't an mRNA vaccine. However, why do you say that? Because mRNA vaccine is the only Covid-19 vaccine currently being released to the public in Britain.
Revisiting the UK’s strategy for delaying the second dose of the Pfizer covid-19 vaccine - The BMJ
 

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@amigo de christo , and others as well might find this an interesting read.
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Yes, I know you told us your vaccine wasn't an mRNA vaccine. However, why do you say that? Because mRNA vaccine is the only Covid-19 vaccine currently being released to the public in Britain.
Revisiting the UK’s strategy for delaying the second dose of the Pfizer covid-19 vaccine - The BMJ

You wouldn't say that if you had actually read the article you're quoting, which mentions both the vaccines in current use in the UK. Most people are now getting the Oxford vaccine.

You don't know the significance of the pharmaceutical company that produced the serum for your Covid-19 vaccine?

No. I don't have the same issues with vaccines that you have.
 
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If you choose to look at it that way, then every time you take an aspirin for a headache, you're in a "test trial".

Asprin is still in the human test trials?
That is news, albeit ancient news.

Because you never know if to will work on that particular headache or not. It's a way of looking at medicine, but it makes any distinctions between 'new' and 'old' treatments meaningless.

Did you know that most vaccines in this country are free? And in Wales all medical prescriptions are free. There are no suspicious connotations attached to that fact.

You can do your own reasearch of exactly what they claim is in the different vaccines being produced, and read for yourself, they are all human clinical trials.

Matters none to me if you agree with them or me.
 
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You wouldn't say that if you had actually read the article you're quoting, which mentions both the vaccines in current use in the UK. Most people are now getting the Oxford vaccine.
You mean to say the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine.
And the article, that I linked after I read it, does not state that most people are now getting the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. But you've said you don't know what pharmaceutical company produced the vaccine you allegedly received because you don't have a concern with having that knowledge. I find that odd and personally irresponsible, but you are you and I am me. (Thank God for that difference, right? Yep, I got ya. ;))

If you'd have read the article I linked you'd know that you did receive an experimental vaccine. And of course you did because all vaccine produced to address Covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 , are experimental because Covid-19 is a new viral strain. (And it mutates, of course)

From that article: In our view, all of these reasons should make the government reconsider their strategy. If they are determined to continue with the delayed second dose, then a robust randomized evaluation is urgently required. Furthermore, if there is an apparently plentiful supply of the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine, which is being rolled out at pace and for which there is a scientific basis for a delay in second dose, is there really a need for the mRNA delayed strategy?


No. I don't have the same issues with vaccines that you have.
Clearly. I would insist on knowing what pharmaceutical company provided experimental Covid-19 vaccine that I was agreeing to let be injected into my body and consequently forever impact my future.
 

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Clearly. I would insist on knowing what pharmaceutical company provided experimental Covid-19 vaccine that I was agreeing to let be injected into my body and consequently forever impact my future.

Agree.

CDC Admits Vaccines contain "aborted fetus Cells" and "African green monkey kidney pus Cells".....

Which is more soothing...not knowing, or knowing after the fact? ;)
 
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I once had a lady just a screaming at me to not get a silicone injection in my arthritis knee...said it was going to kill me. And I was clueless as to what else there was to do about it. (She didn't have any ideas either other than replacing it)

Ummm....
It's been at least 6 months and it's all dissolved away. So I'm getting ready for another one. Steroid injection won't work.

And it's beginning to hurt once again.

So guess what I'm a gonna do.





Hmmm,...












I'm betting on all the marbles that I don't have that you're going to get another injection?
 
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Indeed they use them on cancer patients for many years. The truth is falsehoods sound so much better than the boring truth
What's really going to put a bee in their bonnet is when the results of the trials come out this fall and only the mRNA vaccines prevent infection. (Meaning that those who got them won't spread virus)
And a new wave of laws, vaccinations and rules come about.
 
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Yep! Sort of baffling in these times how willing people are to jump in void of the Facts.
:rolleyes:
Willful ignorance or blind faith? I've never had a flu shot. I go with God's pharmacy. Herbs and supplements, for healing.And of course it is easier to maintain ones health rather than having to regain ones health.
Diet and exercise are key too.

Here @JohnDB I can do the sound effects for the bee. :D




LOL If I ever see a pointy hat speaking to me I'm laying off the Dr.Pepper and Jalapeño stuffed cheddar poppers! lol