Who founded your church?

[Behold]

I can see your version of Jesus now...

You have to break you mother's water sack to be saved....

You can't see anything, as you are too deep under water .
And down there, no Light is found.

 

[Behold]

I can't believe it.

The JW's are more saved than you.

They baptize in the titles.

You detest water baptre.

You haven't even started.ism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.

They are half way the

Well, i wont deny your salvation, as you've just denied mine... as that is not allowed on this Forum.
But, i will deny that you have any sophistication within your mentality.

 

[Truther]

A person is not born again by water...

So, your issue is that you are deceived by a Devil's bible.
Its the one that changed a verse, from... "born of water" to "born AGAIN by water" that created your water cult that owns your mind.

No, you are saying Jesus said "unless you break your mama's water and get the Holy Ghost you can't be saved".

That is a ridiculous thing to say Jesus meant.

 

[Truther]

You can't see anything, as you are too deep under water .
And down there, no Light is found.

LOL

 

[Truther]

Well, i wont deny your salvation, as you've just denied mine... as that is not allowed on this Forum.
But, i will deny that you have any sophistication within your mentality.

I deny anyone salvation that rejects Acts 2:38.

I will obey God rather than man.

 

[Renniks]

You think the name of Jesus Christ is a magic word?

Is that what you think as you pray for the sick?

Sick!

Wow, that's all you got out of that post? I could call on Jesus until I'm blue in the face, but if I don't sincerely believe in his sacrifice for me, all I would get is hoarse.
Lots of people use his name when it's convenient, but don't know him.

 

[Renniks]

you still don’t answer questions
For example if salvation is by faith alone please explain:
Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

This is not about initially being saved. Paul is referring to salvation in the sense that all who are in Christ will have reached eternity, that the time of ultimate victory and judgment is fast approaching. It's a reference to the last days. He's talking to people that are already believers.

 

[Truther]

Wow, that's all you got out of that post? I could call on Jesus until I'm blue in the face, but if I don't sincerely believe in his sacrifice for me, all I would get is hoarse.
Lots of people use his name when it's convenient, but don't know him.

The name of Jesus Christ is given to us to use in word or deed.

Try it sometime, instead of judging who is worthy or not.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Not a single infant in the Bible was baptized, nor did they repent.
But the RCC(Catholics) pretend they did when they baptize newborns.
Now you think babies made a covenant and not the O.T. parents.
RCC babies must be pretty advanced to make a covenant with God, huh?,

Can you show me an example of an elderly person being Baptized in the NT? How about an example of a deaf/mute being Baptized?
No? So, does that mean deaf/mutes and elderly people can't be Baptized, either - according to YOUR rules?

As for your idiotic claim that I said babies made a Covenant on their own - I never said this, but thank you for exposing your dishonesty.
I have stated repeatedly that they entered the Covenant by the will of their PARENTS and were circumcised as a result. This prefigured Baptism, as Paul refers to it as the "Circumcision of Christ" and the "Circumcision of the heart" (Romans 2:29, Col. 2:12-17).

If you just did your homework - you wouldn't post these embarrassingly stupid claims . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Ok, you rewrote the verse, to suit your cult.
What does that prove?
It proves that you are so desperate to hope that you are right, and feeling the sting of the reality check im given you, that you now rewrite verses to try to prove your water cult's deception.
See that's the thing about you and your cult.
There is no level of deceit that you wont try, hoping to snare real born again believers into your cult's darkness.

And truly, even a moron can understand that the water the is KILLING all the people in the world, by drowning them, isn't saving Noah.
Even a moron can understand that the ARK that is protecting them from the FLOOD WATER, is what is saving them.

So, you think on that, deceiver.

I didn't "rewrite" anything.
I simply exposed your lies about Baptism.

Stop fighting God - and surrender to Him instead . . .

 

[Truther]

Can you show me an example of an elderly person being Baptized in the NT? How about an example of a deaf/mute being Baptized?
No? So, does that mean deaf/mutes and elderly people can't be Baptized, either - according to YOUR rules?

As for your idiotic claim that I said babies made a Covenant on their own - I never said this, but thank you for exposing your dishonesty.
I have stated repeatedly that they entered the Covenant by the will of their PARENTS and were circumcised as a result. This prefigured Baptism, as Paul refers to it as the "Circumcision of Christ" and the "Circumcision of the heart" (Romans 2:29, Col. 2:12-17).

If you just did your homework - you wouldn't post these embarrassingly stupid claims . . .

You forgot to ask me if I can give you an example of a man with no eyes, no arms, no legs and no hair getting baptized in he N.T.(you are not on your game today, sunshine).

So, you turned Acts 2:38 into this....

38 Then Peter said unto the PARENTS, Repent FOR YOUR BABIES, and BAPTIZE every one of your BABIES in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of THEIR GOD AWEFUL SINS, and THEY shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost WITHOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUES OR ANY EVIDENCE.


LOL

 

[BreadOfLife]

You forgot to ask me if I can give you an example of a man with no eyes, no arms, no legs and no hair getting baptized in he N.T.(you are not on your game today, sunshine).

So, you turned Acts 2:38 into this....

38 Then Peter said unto the PARENTS, Repent FOR YOUR BABIES, and BAPTIZE every one of your BABIES in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of THEIR GOD AWEFUL SINS, and THEY shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost WITHOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUES OR ANY EVIDENCE.

LOL

Sooooooo, you couldn't show m a single example of an elderly person OR a deaf mute being Baptized.
That's what I thought . . .

So tell me, Einstein - HOW is this different from there not being an example of a baby nbeing Baptized?

 

[Renniks]

The name of Jesus Christ is given to us to use in word or deed.

Try it sometime, instead of judging who is worthy or not.

Judge much? How ironic. Of course I talk to Jesus. I pray in his name. However, I don't use his name flippantly. If someone is his, his name has power to repel evil. If not, using his name is really blasphemy.

 

[Philip James]

Judge much? How ironic. Of course I talk to Jesus. I pray in his name. However, I don't use his name flippantly. If someone is his, his name has power to repel evil. If not, using his name is really blasphemy.

Then some itinerant Jewish exorcists tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those with evil spirits, saying, "I adjure you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches."


When the seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish high priest, tried to do this,


the evil spirit said to them in reply, "Jesus I recognize, Paul I know, but who are you?"


The person with the evil spirit then sprang at them and subdued them all. He so overpowered them that they fled naked and wounded from that house.

 

[theefaith]

1What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, has discovered? 2If Abraham was indeed justified by works, he had something to boast about, but not before God. 3For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”…

you confuse redemption and justification

 

[theefaith]

What holy church?

one holy catholic apostolic

 

[theefaith]

Your post does not make sense. Justification has nothing at all to do with salvation.

define them please?

redemption
Justification
Sanctification
Salvation

 

[theefaith]

This is not about initially being saved. Paul is referring to salvation in the sense that all who are in Christ will have reached eternity, that the time of ultimate victory and judgment is fast approaching. It's a reference to the last days. He's talking to people that are already believers.

so until death no one is saved! Matt 24:13

 

[Truther]

Sooooooo, you couldn't show m a single example of an elderly person OR a deaf mute being Baptized.
That's what I thought . . .

So tell me, Einstein - HOW is this different from there not being an example of a baby nbeing Baptized?

I see how the RCC get's their infant baptism doctrine...by looking for folks that have NOT been mentioned in the Bible.

That is their pattern...extra Biblical commentary doctrines.

Slick!

 

[theefaith]

Because im born again.
Thats how i can say it.
I gave God my Faith in Christ and God gave me His Righteousness, as "the gift of Righteousness".
Im now "one with God and Christ" as that is the "Gift of Salvation".
I took Jesus, and God took me.

You should try it., and get out of that water.

no

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ! Eph 2
Galatians 2:16 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Jn 3:5 acts 2:38 Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Sanctification: the life of grace in the holy sacrifice of the mass and sacraments, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love! Phil 1:29 called to suffer with Christ.
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Heb 4:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Rom 13:11 ...for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Then Once saved always saved!

1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)