Kermos
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Grailhunter, do you believe that you, right now, are a part of "the whole world" as it is written in "the whole world lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19)?
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Grailhunter, do you believe that you, right now, are a part of "the whole world" as it is written in "the whole world lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19)?
justbyfaith, do you believe that faith/belief in Jesus whom the Father has sent is the work of God?You have simply misunderstood my statements by isolating them from the rest of what I was saying.
Grailhunter, do you believe that you, right now, are a part of "the whole world" as it is written in "the whole world lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19)?
Cooper, since you are responding to the post respecting the Isaiah 45:7 passage, then I take it that you are writing specifically about this passage.
It appears to me that you are subtracting and/or adding to the Word of God, Cooper.
God uses the first person of "I" in the passage to speak about God, so that "I" is not the Israelites.
"God is light" (1 John 1:5).
God says "I form the light" (Isaiah 45:7).
God says God creates darkness (Isaiah 45:7).
God says God makes peace (Isaiah 45:7).
God says God creates evil (Isaiah 45:7).
Here is the passage:
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I YHWH do all these things" (Isaiah 45:7).
In Isaiah 45:7, that word "evil" in English is "ra" in Hebrew, and we find "ra" in "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" in Genesis 2:17; therefore, the word "evil" in Isaiah 45:7 is accurate, so this means that the Word of God says that God creates evil.
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2 )Renniks, do you believe that you, right now, are a part of "the whole world" as it is written in "the whole world lies in the evil one" (1 John 5:19)?
If you want any help, feel free to ask.
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The same as Jesus and His parables. Thank you for the compliment. Even then they had problems understanding him. So, like I say, feel free to ask.In what? Knowing Scripture? From you ?? Thanks but no thanks. You mix scripture with human logic and have produced a toxic beverage.
Of course.justbyfaith, do you believe that faith/belief in Jesus whom the Father has sent is the work of God?
The same as Jesus and His parables. Thank you for the compliment. Even then they had problems understanding him. So, like I say, feel free to ask.
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If you call this substantial evidence for a "middle ground," there might be a problem here.I would teach that there is a middle ground between total depravity and being born again...being drawn by the Holy Spirit...in which a man, who is not yet regenerated or born again, is enabled to either receive or reject Christ in that window of opportunity in which the Holy Spirit is drawing him. If he then receives Christ rather than rejecting Him, he becomes born again of the Holy Spirit through faith in Jesus Christ.
Verses that substantiate this are Ephesians 2:8-9 and Romans 5:1-2.
One will NEVER see an alter call, nor will a Calvinist EVER say that Jesus loves you. And, some of the most staunch ones will not even evangelize.
One will NEVER see an alter call, nor will a Calvinist EVER say that Jesus loves you. And, some of the most staunch ones will not even evangelize.
Not saying that Calvinists are not saved, just pointing out that (from personal experience) there is not a lot of hope in this doctrine.
Well your right, it is above our paygrade to determine if someone is saved....but on Judgment Day can you imagine them standing before Christ accounting for their beliefs and the fact that they taught their beliefs to children....Will they be wearing a number 7 or number 8 millstone?
The evidence for a middle ground is in 2 Corinthians 6:1-2....If you call this substantial evidence for a "middle ground," there might be a problem here.
I am in the whole world...not necessarily part of it. Does the verse say...
God so loved the elect of the world...
God so loved part of the world....
God so loved some of the world....
Flat statement...God so loved the world....And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
He's got the whole world in His hands!
And blessed be His glorious name forever; And may the whole earth be filled with His glory. Amen, and Amen. Psalm 72:19
In his hand are the depths of the earth, and the mountain peaks belong to him. Psalm 95:4
And one called out to another and said, “Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory.” Isiah 6:3
The big Kahuna
If I throw you a life rope....do you want the whole thing or just part of it? LOL
In the first verse of Isaiah 45 we read of Cyrus.
Xenophon says that Cyrus conquered the Syrians, Assyrians, Arabians, Cappadocians, both the Phrygians, Lydians, Carians, Phoenicians, Babylonians; and also reigned over the Bactrians, Indians, Cilicians, the Sacae, Paphlagones, and Mariandyni.
Moses killed thousands, and according to Jesus the god of the Jews is the devil. John 8:44.
The family of Adam and Eve and their descendants were evil. You remind me that YHWH creates evil according to your understanding of Genesis 2:17.
We know Jesus came to conquer sin and evil. We know he came to the Jews first, and we know the Bible is an account of the Jews. So what are you telling me and are you proud of it?
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