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No, actually receiving the Holy Spirit is when you are born again. Baptism can actually be done after you receive the Spirit, not TO receive the Holy Spirit, because baptism is in answer to a good conscience, and your conscience is clear only after you stop sinning, which you can't do without the Spirit given to us when we cry out to Jesus.

The end must be freedom from sin.
The answer of a good conscience can mean that your conscience is not clear but good; which would mean that your conscience tells you that you are a sinner in need of a Saviour and therefore the answer of that might be to be baptized in Jesus' Name for the remission of sins.
 

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@justbyfaith I will say this before I am completely done with this thread. I am currently taking you off ignore because I'm really curious how you will respond to this post but the reason why I have such a problem with you is you keep condemning people to Hell for no reason other than the fact that they disagree with you and that sounds an awful lot like trolling. Also, @Blood Bought 1953 I feel like I owe you an apology because you don't appear to be doing that even though I thought you were.


Thanks April.....no need to apologize......
It would be great if jbfplusluckyrepentance were a Troll.....sadly , he is serious.....too stubborn and self righteous to listen to great God-Sent Teachers....he insists on “ going it Alone” ....this he does.....and boy, does it show....
Sometimes he seems , “so close” ..... but then He will post something that shows he teaches a False Gospel Of “ Lucky Repentance” ( and other hog- wash too) ......the end results of his Errant Teachings could be ugly....I pray for him....
 

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I realized I was a sinner before coming to Christ. In fact, my helplessness to be righteous on my own and failing miserably is when I repented. Jesus then filled me with His Spirit and empowered me with so much power over sin, I didn't have anymore desire to commit sin. That is the truth of being born again. What is your definition or version? Imputed righteousness while you keep on sinning?


You nailed it....I continue to sin , even though I don’t want to....Saved people are engaged in “Spiritual Warfare”, remember.....James said, “ we ALL stumble” ....that includes deluded people that think they are “ above sin”..... they have to convince themselves of that so that they can sleep at night....Grace ( That Thing That actually Saves—-NOT a perfect performance) has never been extended to them...that is why they do not understand it...
If Righteousness were not “ imputed” we would all be hopelessly lost....only One is truly Righteousness....some think they are “ The Holy Spirit, jr. ....they ain’t....
 

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You have stated on this forum that you have sinned and you confess, and that is since i showed up you told us this...
So, are you posting this verse to prove you are of the devil?

Do you ever actually think about what you write before you post it?
You should start.
Today would be good.


You’re on a Roll, Behold.....keep up the good work.....
 
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But of course, those who enslave themselves with Law and Commandment will persecute those who consider themselves dead to the Law, as they did Paul



You haven’t lived unless you have seen him take the analogy of Isaac and Ishmael and completely turn it upside down.....this guy can do ANYTHING! It’s scary.
 

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why not
If I’m saved born again
What does it matter that I have a harem?


Enjoy that Harem!
While you can.....God will NOT be Mocked...if you are a child of His you can expect to be Chastised ....you’ll soon abandon it.....
If you are NOT a child of God , you can REALLy enjoy that Harem! You can look back on it with fondness while you roast in Hell......
 

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Sanctification is the work of a lifetime. I think JBF knows that. BB53 is here to practice the antithesis of Carnegie's "How To Win Friends And Influence People." I've always said that the problem with legalists is that they don't take the law seriously enough. ;):)



I love to make “ friends”......I’ve got way more than you realize.....they all have one thing in common....they don’t “Pervert” Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing.....they sing” Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus”——and they actually MEAN it....THOSE are “ my” types of Friends.....I couldn’t care less about the “ friendship” of those that cause poorly taught people to “ Fall From Grace” and risk an eternity in Hell ...
When it comes to Biblically Ignorant people, I think like FDR did in regard to his critics....” I welcome their hatred!”......
I never join any forums to make friends.....I am a “ Free Man in Christ”..... my “ Abundant” life is full of Assurance in regard to my Salvation and I live a life of immense joy.... I want people to join me.....
You will not believe this but it is true....my biggest problem in “ the real world” is that everybody I meet wants to hang around with me and be my best friend......
Maybe that is because Jesus and I have at least two things in common..... I am a friend to Sinners and I am really disliked by Religious people.....I can live with that. Joyously, as a matter of fact....
 
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sanctifying grace thru the sacraments enables us to be holy and righteous


“ holy and righteous”, you say? ....lol...you GOT to be kidding......let me talk to your wife for three minutes.....let’s see if the truth does not come out.....gotta love your sense of humor !
 

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What happened to the gospel?

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Matthew 5:20
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much:

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlastingpunishment: but the righteous into life eternal.


Nothing happened to the Gospel....you just never realized what it IS......and just as important....what it ISN'T ....one can’t just reel off a bunch of verses that sound good and call it the “ Gospel “ .....
The Gospel That Saves, If you have the Faith to believe it is very specific.... it’s 1Cor15:1-4..... This is what God will judge you by....Paul said so....I hope you will be prepared when God asks you if you Rested in that Gospel ....or added to it.....your answer could be the difference between Heaven and Hell....
 
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The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation


Have you ever been curious as to how one ADDS to the Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing ? You ever wonder what a “False and Perverted” so-called Gospel looks like ? Do you want to see how one “ falls from Grace?”
Well kids, ....you have just seen it up close and personal...read the small book of Galatians ....then tell me I am wrong....take the time.....it could be the difference between Heaven and Hell for you....
 

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It would be great if jbfplusluckyrepentance were a Troll..

it would be great if "Blood Blot 1953" weren't a troll...

...only One is truly Righteousness...

Unbiblical...

2Co 5:21, For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

I love to make “ friends”......I’ve got way more than you realize.....they all have one thing in common....they don’t “Pervert” Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing.....she they sing” Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus”—— they actually MEAN it....THOSE are “ my” types of Friends...

I really do sing that song and mean it...

Knowing that the blood of Jesus doesn't only justify (as per Romans 5:9)...but it also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses me from all sin (1 John 1:7).

Your blood of Jesus doesn't sanctify...mine does.

I will go with my version of the blood of Jesus over yours, any day of the week...

Because your blood of Jesus is too weak to make a person holy...

Your version of the gospel has sinners in heaven.

If sinners are in heaven, then so is sin.

You probably don't realize this, but sin is the cause of death, sorrow, crying, and pain.

Therefore your version of the gospel is unbiblical (see Revelation 21:4).
 

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Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Jesus revealed, when asked by His Disciples , what “ the Will Of The Father” was.....it was.... “ Believe in the One that He sent” .....it’s so simple people don’t believe it....it’s “ foolishness to those that Perish”
 

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Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Jesus revealed, when asked by His Disciples , what “ the Will Of The Father” was.....it was.... “ Believe in the One that He sent” .....it’s so simple people don’t believe it....it’s “ foolishness to those that Perish”
In context, Matthew 7:21 is included in the Sermon on the Mount; which was Jesus' dissertation on the will of the Father.

He also mentioned that if you keep the words that Jesus gave in the Sermon on the Mount and do them, you will have laid a foundation that will stand when the storms of life come to try to knock down the house that you have built...but that if you hear and do not obey, your house is built on sand...and when the storms of life come, your house will fall and great will be the fall of it...
 
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Well, since he pretty much bullies everyone who doesn't agree with him (unless things have changed), that's highly likely. We both got called out by a mod not too long ago and he "repented." I can see he's back at it.




Attaboy, JBF! :D

Sick hyperbole


Luther was astonished by the Grace of God .......Astonished by it to the point of praising it with ridiculous exaggeration ! Luther, for all Of His faults , truly understood Gods Amazing Grace..... many in here have never experienced the Grace Of God ....God has not bestowed it on them....they won’t be Saved without it ....
I suppose it has to be lived to understand it.....Saved people.....those actually Saved by Grace Know Exactly where Luther was coming from....if you don’t understand it, it’s YOUR problem—— NOT Luther’s .....nor mine.....
 
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How utterly tragic. Even though I agree that obedience to the law counts not one iota for merit toward salvation, how could being sinless possibly be a waste of time?!!! Would it be such an awful thing to do good, and no harm toward the rest of God's creation?!!!


Lol.....I see now why you call yourself “ Barney Fife”..... he was famous for getting his panties in a knot over Nothing....
Of COURSE it is great to do Good and avoid sin and evil.....
I am talking about in regard to Salvation.....obedience is always great, but a person is Wrong— DAMNED WRONG —- if he thinks Obedience is the Criteria for the entrance to Heaven . Faith in Jesus and His Finished Work Of The Cross ALONE accomplishes that....
Now if one is speaking of the Obedience to the Gospel....that is a horse if a different color....THAT Obedience , which means to rest in it and never add to it——THAT “ Obedience” will Save a fella ! Even the True “ Chief Of Sinners”, yours truly.....don’t ya just “ hate” it ?
 

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You nailed it....I continue to sin , even though I don’t want to....Saved people are engaged in “Spiritual Warfare”, remember.....James said, “ we ALL stumble” ....that includes deluded people that think they are “ above sin”..... they have to convince themselves of that so that they can sleep at night....Grace ( That Thing That actually Saves—-NOT a perfect performance) has never been extended to them...that is why they do not understand it...
If Righteousness were not “ imputed” we would all be hopelessly lost....only One is truly Righteousness....some think they are “ The Holy Spirit, jr. ....they ain’t....

Though Peter says if you do these things you will never stumble. And James is talking about our words, which could be trespasses, that we are able to commit even when walking in the Spirit.

The problem I have with the teaching you go by is that you believe you will also commit sins of lawlessness. I don't. But I do see that we will commit trespasses. When you believe "sin is sin" you miss the weightier measures of advanced theology. IOW, what God calls Sin as opposed to sin. You don't know how to have a zero balance to your balance sheet.
 

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You can divide you faith with sacraments and church if you like, but remember this. Paul tells us it's by grace or works there is no combination, it's one or the other.

Rom. 11:6
"And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work."

You can place all your faith in Christ, period, or you can suffer the consequences!

I have nothing else to say about it!




DON’T STOP! .....and don’t get discouraged ! Your voice is needed in here. Some people “ get it” and others don’t. You definitely “ get it” .....you have been blessed mightily .....people in here are starving for good, truthful Biblical Teachings.....do as I do......think of all the Newbies out there getting all of this Hog Wash that we see in here every day....most of them get the same bad teaching in their churches every Sunday....they will be confronted with false Gospels out on the Streets frequently....the need to be able to defend themselves , lest they fall victim to the same Legalistic, False “gospels” That flood this place....
Let’s give them the Truth and the Ammo that they need to spread the TRUE “ Good News” .... “Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus”—- and I mean NOTHING! Help me to do what I have dedicated my life to doing....being God’s “ Pit Bull” against Leaven and Legalism.....use these oft times well intentioned, but ultimately poorly taught people as “Spring Boards” to get God’s Truth out there—-“ Jesus Saves —— no “ buts” attached”
I am convinced God will reward us and a few others in here for our “ work” ( more like shooting fish in a barrel ) ....pray about it and may God continue to bless you as he does me......
 

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End of the law as justification, perhaps, but you're leaving out all the good things that are said in the New Testament about the law. Not to mention the Proverbs and Psalms.


God ” Found fault” with the old covenant.....we have “ new and better promises” now....I exclude NO parts of the Bible , but I tend to concentrate on something superior when Given a choice....
 

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what about the gospel?

Matt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much:

The verses you chose to quote?




Matt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much:[/QUOTE]



The verses you are quoting ? You are preaching to the choir...
I don’t get your point.....sorry....
 

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just two really?

Matt 28:19 all things I have commanded you (the apostles)



AFTER the Cross....Under Grace .....The Cross changed almost everything ...Jesus left u with just two Cimmands.....
1 John 3:23..... “ and this is the Commandment.....to believe in the name Of His Son , Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us”.....°